stevied
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Would prefer Felise. Form in ISP has been better than Sue or Grant.
WESTS Tigers Team V Manly
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Would prefer Felise. Form in ISP has been better than Sue or Grant.
Blackpearl
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X 2
Good to see you back on the forum and pushing the Brooks barrow
Ivan and benji have helped improve his game in leaps and bounds
stevied
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McQueen has done nothing in ISP to deserve a promotion.
The_Patriot
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Thats your opinion. Ive watched some games and can see the class and see steady improvement.
InBenjiWeTrust
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they cannot be serious, even after 10 pints coyotes would sound better :crazy
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stevied
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I think Ivan has pulled the right strings. I'm a big fan of Tui, mainly for what he did at the Warriors in 2016, but I think moving Thompson back to fullback gives us more potency in attack. There's no doubt that adding Nofo will give us more strike power coming out of our end and the back line, overall looks more penetrative. However, it's obvious the moves were more about dropping Tui than promoting Nofo as I haven't noticed much improvement in David's defense in ISP. I also think that J.J. Felise was more deserving of a promotion than either Sue or Grant but obviously experience won out. I agree with many others that Benji is by far the best option as a goal kicking alternative. However, I can't agree with others who say they feel the most nervous about the result of this game. After the Parra matchup, this is the one I feel most confident about. Our defense is stellar and we've won four out of five, including two against the premiers!
stevied
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Of course that's my opinion. It's what the forum's for. I'll qualify my comment. He looks slow and ineffective with the ball, doesn't bend the line and has dropped the ball on numerous occasions. There are others far more deserving of a promotion, especially when we need forwards who can be damaging in attack, not more honest toilers. I will concede that his defense has been good though. and he is slowly improving.
lol lol lol Mats and Packer have formed a far more devastating combo than anyone we've had since 2011…yeah, Mats drops the ball a bit but that's about it. The team's defensive stats seem to be just fine with him on the field and that game winning try assist against Melbourne is a nice bonus. Some very short memories on here want Jack Buchanan and Woodsy to come back apparently.
The_Old_Fox
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Agree, Tui's defence is poor and on the attack he only made 48 mtr
foreveratiger
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King Brooks Gents :smiley:
It's no coincidence Brooks game started improving when Moses left, Ivan has simplified his game and has allowed him to play the more dominant role.
His defence has improved out of site and his short game is improving, our forwards are winning the ruck and making solid metres
Tigerdave
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some interesting selections, Godinet is not much of a surprise, but Tui was a bit. Here's hoping Nofo plays well defensively and takes out his lack of 1st grade on Manly with some big runs.
momo_amp_medo
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X2
southerntiger
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Yep x 3
jirskyr
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What I'm looking forward to the most is the thread next Monday, if Tui doesn't play and we lose the game by a missed conversion or two.
It's a mistake from some posters to only look at his metres last week and say 46 isn't enough. I haven't even seen anyone analyse (if possible) the number of carries he had.
Just FYI in 3 matches, Tui has averaged 94 run metres which is 7th in the team, but more than MWZ, Mats, Packer, ET, Lawrence, Brooks, MCK. He has had 36 runs (12 per match av.) for 284 m = 7.89 m per carry av. Thommo on the other hand (our leading metre-gainer) has 5 matches, 76 runs, 641 m = 15 runs per match for 8.43 m per carry.
Not really that much of a difference except that Thommo takes an extra 3 runs for an extra half-metre each, but he's also scored a long-range try.
Also interesting that Tui is 14th in average run metres for all NRL fullbacks, but ahead of Flash Gordon, Billy Slater, Darius, Cotric, Bevan French. He is 1m behind Mbye, 2m behind Dugan, 3m behind Hampton and 4m behind Valentine Holmes.
Anyhow, rather than speculate why Tui was relegated, because Ivan won't state the reason explicitly in public I don't expect, I'm happy to consider this as evidence that there are high standards, and even a winning team can be changed. People used to whinge about lack of accountability at WT, so even if you can't guess why Tui was dropped, that is what accountability can look like.
It's a mistake from some posters to only look at his metres last week and say 46 isn't enough. I haven't even seen anyone analyse (if possible) the number of carries he had.
Just FYI in 3 matches, Tui has averaged 94 run metres which is 7th in the team, but more than MWZ, Mats, Packer, ET, Lawrence, Brooks, MCK. He has had 36 runs (12 per match av.) for 284 m = 7.89 m per carry av. Thommo on the other hand (our leading metre-gainer) has 5 matches, 76 runs, 641 m = 15 runs per match for 8.43 m per carry.
Not really that much of a difference except that Thommo takes an extra 3 runs for an extra half-metre each, but he's also scored a long-range try.
Also interesting that Tui is 14th in average run metres for all NRL fullbacks, but ahead of Flash Gordon, Billy Slater, Darius, Cotric, Bevan French. He is 1m behind Mbye, 2m behind Dugan, 3m behind Hampton and 4m behind Valentine Holmes.
Anyhow, rather than speculate why Tui was relegated, because Ivan won't state the reason explicitly in public I don't expect, I'm happy to consider this as evidence that there are high standards, and even a winning team can be changed. People used to whinge about lack of accountability at WT, so even if you can't guess why Tui was dropped, that is what accountability can look like.
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