Wests Tigers Team v St George

@the_patriot said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348875) said:
Liddle is a first grader, all you Simpkins fan boys can rightly claim Jake is the better player but Liddle has been hard done by. What's more he has an attitude we desperately lack.

He should be on the bench.

The season is over .. Madge may as well give Simpkin a go at this stage ..
If Liddle doesn’t get another shot at firsts ...he’s been shafted !
 
@jedi_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348879) said:
@the_patriot said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348875) said:
Liddle is a first grader, all you Simpkins fan boys can rightly claim Jake is the better player but Liddle has been hard done by. What's more he has an attitude we desperately lack.

He should be on the bench.

the Liddle fan boys good luck to them he had first crack, he will get a run if simpkin is injured or Mmbye goes down etc. For balance of the team we dont need both in 17 we need a Mmbye type ball player who can come on at lock.

Don’t get too confident Simpkin hasn’t done anything..... yet
 
@jedi_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348872) said:
@the_third said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348869) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348861) said:
@ancient_magpie said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348785) said:
How come nobody mentions Simpkin let the first try in and missed a number of tackles w hile Liddle had a good game in reggies .Is Simkin the latest favourite.

thankfully you are not in Hartigans role, simpkin is miles better than Liddle at a younger age he has plenty of upside. Put liddles money towards a good centre, do you have a crack at staggs or try and entice finucane over from storm

Gee I don’t know about the younger age comparisons. If Liddle wasn’t injured so much he could have been anything. As it stands he’s still very good. He starts at quite a few NRL club as it stands.

He just doesn’t seem as good as Simpkin right now

I meant he is as good and better than liddle at the moment at 19. Liddle is hampered by injury too good luck to him if he can snag a good deal given previous injuries
I agree liddle starts at clubs like dogs warriors Titans cowboys



@jedi_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348872) said:
@the_third said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348869) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348861) said:
@ancient_magpie said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348785) said:
How come nobody mentions Simpkin let the first try in and missed a number of tackles w hile Liddle had a good game in reggies .Is Simkin the latest favourite.

thankfully you are not in Hartigans role, simpkin is miles better than Liddle at a younger age he has plenty of upside. Put liddles money towards a good centre, do you have a crack at staggs or try and entice finucane over from storm

Gee I don’t know about the younger age comparisons. If Liddle wasn’t injured so much he could have been anything. As it stands he’s still very good. He starts at quite a few NRL club as it stands.

He just doesn’t seem as good as Simpkin right now

I meant he is as good and better than liddle at the moment at 19. Liddle is hampered by injury too good luck to him if he can snag a good deal given previous injuries
I agree liddle starts at clubs like dogs warriors Titans cowboys

Ahh yea completely agree with that. He deserves to start somewhere. He would make a massive difference at the Titans
 
@hobbo1 said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348873) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348863) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348859) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348855) said:
@tiger-tragic said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348834) said:
Beyond Liddle and Simpkin, I don't know who there is for the #9 in the NRL squad and KOE Cup squad. Maybe it's about ensuring the only team going well, the KOE Cup team, are not weakened by having both Liddle and Simpkin in the 17 for the NRL team?

But, for the record, I haven't seen anything in Simpkin that would promote him higher in the #9 role over Liddle. If it came to a choice between the two of them, I would choose Liddle.

Wow night and day IMO. Simpkin stronger in every way.

In time I would agree...
At the moment I’d have Liddle ..
That’s if we had a shot at semi final footy this season.
Early days for Simpkin but I’d say Madge likes him .

I think Simpkins service is a lot crisper than Liddles and I think Liddles a bit suspect defensively

Service is crisper yes
Defence is worse
But we’re comparing a 50 gamer to a 2 gamer ..


Have to weigh in here... This last assessment is 100% correct in my view - SO FAR.
However I think it's way too early to tell on Simpkins, he needs more time in NRL and before we all start deciding his long term career let's give him some time to work on his game at this level.
The hardest thing for us fans is to be patient.
 
@tigersj said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348887) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348873) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348863) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348859) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348855) said:
@tiger-tragic said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348834) said:
Beyond Liddle and Simpkin, I don't know who there is for the #9 in the NRL squad and KOE Cup squad. Maybe it's about ensuring the only team going well, the KOE Cup team, are not weakened by having both Liddle and Simpkin in the 17 for the NRL team?

But, for the record, I haven't seen anything in Simpkin that would promote him higher in the #9 role over Liddle. If it came to a choice between the two of them, I would choose Liddle.

Wow night and day IMO. Simpkin stronger in every way.

In time I would agree...
At the moment I’d have Liddle ..
That’s if we had a shot at semi final footy this season.
Early days for Simpkin but I’d say Madge likes him .

I think Simpkins service is a lot crisper than Liddles and I think Liddles a bit suspect defensively

Service is crisper yes
Defence is worse
But we’re comparing a 50 gamer to a 2 gamer ..


Have to weigh in here... This last assessment is 100% correct in my view - SO FAR.
However I think it's way too early to tell on Simpkins, he needs more time in NRL and before we all start deciding his long term career let's give him some time to work on his game at this level.
The hardest thing for us fans is to be patient.

One more win !
?
 
@jedi_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348879) said:
@the_patriot said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348875) said:
Liddle is a first grader, all you Simpkins fan boys can rightly claim Jake is the better player but Liddle has been hard done by. What's more he has an attitude we desperately lack.

He should be on the bench.

the Liddle fan boys good luck to them he had first crack, he will get a run if simpkin is injured or Mmbye goes down etc. For balance of the team we dont need both in 17 we need a Mmbye type ball player who can come on at lock.


Sorry but you just defended MosesMybe, An absolute nuffy in trying to make it a black and white Liddle or Simkpins issue.

We need 17 players with the right attitude.

Liddle has never dogged it, cant say the same about Moses
 
@the_patriot said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348894) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348879) said:
@the_patriot said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348875) said:
Liddle is a first grader, all you Simpkins fan boys can rightly claim Jake is the better player but Liddle has been hard done by. What's more he has an attitude we desperately lack.

He should be on the bench.

the Liddle fan boys good luck to them he had first crack, he will get a run if simpkin is injured or Mmbye goes down etc. For balance of the team we dont need both in 17 we need a Mmbye type ball player who can come on at lock.


Sorry but you just defended MosesMybe, An absolute nuffy in trying to make it a black and white Liddle or Simkpins issue.

We need 17 players with the right attitude.

Liddle has never dogged it, cant say the same about Moses

Mmbye covers multiple positions
Liddle and Simpkin only cover dummy half that's it.
Next year we have Hastings t lock and we dont need a Mmbye role and we can carry Liddle on bench
 
@jedi_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348896) said:
@the_patriot said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348894) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348879) said:
@the_patriot said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348875) said:
Liddle is a first grader, all you Simpkins fan boys can rightly claim Jake is the better player but Liddle has been hard done by. What's more he has an attitude we desperately lack.

He should be on the bench.

the Liddle fan boys good luck to them he had first crack, he will get a run if simpkin is injured or Mmbye goes down etc. For balance of the team we dont need both in 17 we need a Mmbye type ball player who can come on at lock.


Sorry but you just defended MosesMybe, An absolute nuffy in trying to make it a black and white Liddle or Simkpins issue.

We need 17 players with the right attitude.

Liddle has never dogged it, cant say the same about Moses

Mmbye covers multiple positions
Liddle and Simpkin only cover dummy half that's it.
Next year we have Hastings t lock and we dont need a Mmbye role and we can carry Liddle on bench


Do you not remember Deno and Farah.

Do you not watch Smith and Smith, or Smith and Grant.

Having two hookers can be a real game changer and build much needed momentum and help roll the ruck.

Ill just assume you are Michael Maguire, and as one dimensional as him.
 
I think this is nearly as close to our best team as we could get, however I would prefer Mbye instead of Joey and Liddle as the 14. I'd also be prepared to play Liddle and Simpkins at the same time for a period with Liddle playing in the middle and having a few runs when he sees the chance.
On the point of our attack, I agree that we are way too flat and don't run onto the ball, there are no players in motion whatsoever, making us easy pickings for a D with linespeed and aggression.
 
@the_patriot said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348900) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348896) said:
@the_patriot said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348894) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348879) said:
@the_patriot said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348875) said:
Liddle is a first grader, all you Simpkins fan boys can rightly claim Jake is the better player but Liddle has been hard done by. What's more he has an attitude we desperately lack.

He should be on the bench.

the Liddle fan boys good luck to them he had first crack, he will get a run if simpkin is injured or Mmbye goes down etc. For balance of the team we dont need both in 17 we need a Mmbye type ball player who can come on at lock.


Sorry but you just defended MosesMybe, An absolute nuffy in trying to make it a black and white Liddle or Simkpins issue.

We need 17 players with the right attitude.

Liddle has never dogged it, cant say the same about Moses

Mmbye covers multiple positions
Liddle and Simpkin only cover dummy half that's it.
Next year we have Hastings t lock and we dont need a Mmbye role and we can carry Liddle on bench


Do you not remember Deno and Farah.

Do you not watch Smith and Smith, or Smith and Grant.

Having two hookers can be a real game changer and build much needed momentum and help roll the ruck.

Ill just assume you are Michael Maguire, and as one dimensional as him.

X2

Would have had Lids on the bench
 
@the_patriot said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348900) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348896) said:
@the_patriot said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348894) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348879) said:
@the_patriot said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348875) said:
Liddle is a first grader, all you Simpkins fan boys can rightly claim Jake is the better player but Liddle has been hard done by. What's more he has an attitude we desperately lack.

He should be on the bench.

the Liddle fan boys good luck to them he had first crack, he will get a run if simpkin is injured or Mmbye goes down etc. For balance of the team we dont need both in 17 we need a Mmbye type ball player who can come on at lock.


Sorry but you just defended MosesMybe, An absolute nuffy in trying to make it a black and white Liddle or Simkpins issue.

We need 17 players with the right attitude.

Liddle has never dogged it, cant say the same about Moses

Mmbye covers multiple positions
Liddle and Simpkin only cover dummy half that's it.
Next year we have Hastings t lock and we dont need a Mmbye role and we can carry Liddle on bench


Do you not remember Deno and Farah.

Do you not watch Smith and Smith, or Smith and Grant.

Having two hookers can be a real game changer and build much needed momentum and help roll the ruck.

Ill just assume you are Michael Maguire, and as one dimensional as him.

Brandon Smith played as a running forward not a dummy half cam Smith did far out.
Halatau played as a running forward and Robbie at dummy half
Both simpkin and liddle can't play that running type of forward role they are both dummy half's
I am thankful you are not picking the side champ wow
 
@jedi_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348905) said:
@the_patriot said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348900) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348896) said:
@the_patriot said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348894) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348879) said:
@the_patriot said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348875) said:
Liddle is a first grader, all you Simpkins fan boys can rightly claim Jake is the better player but Liddle has been hard done by. What's more he has an attitude we desperately lack.

He should be on the bench.

the Liddle fan boys good luck to them he had first crack, he will get a run if simpkin is injured or Mmbye goes down etc. For balance of the team we dont need both in 17 we need a Mmbye type ball player who can come on at lock.


Sorry but you just defended MosesMybe, An absolute nuffy in trying to make it a black and white Liddle or Simkpins issue.

We need 17 players with the right attitude.

Liddle has never dogged it, cant say the same about Moses

Mmbye covers multiple positions
Liddle and Simpkin only cover dummy half that's it.
Next year we have Hastings t lock and we dont need a Mmbye role and we can carry Liddle on bench


Do you not remember Deno and Farah.

Do you not watch Smith and Smith, or Smith and Grant.

Having two hookers can be a real game changer and build much needed momentum and help roll the ruck.

Ill just assume you are Michael Maguire, and as one dimensional as him.

Brandon Smith played as a running forward not a dummy half cam Smith did far out.
Halatau played as a running forward and Robbie at dummy half
Both simpkin and liddle can't play that running type of forward role they are both dummy half's
I am thankful you are not picking the side champ wow


Champ lol.

A 2021 NRl team with the way the game is played can play with two hookers.

Its hardly ground breaking or something different.

For a team like ours who struggle for attack id say its a must.
 
@tony-soprano said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348883) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348879) said:
@the_patriot said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348875) said:
Liddle is a first grader, all you Simpkins fan boys can rightly claim Jake is the better player but Liddle has been hard done by. What's more he has an attitude we desperately lack.

He should be on the bench.

the Liddle fan boys good luck to them he had first crack, he will get a run if simpkin is injured or Mmbye goes down etc. For balance of the team we dont need both in 17 we need a Mmbye type ball player who can come on at lock.

Don’t get too confident Simpkin hasn’t done anything..... yet

the club has picked the right horse in locking him up to 2024
 
@jedi_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348837) said:
@cairnstigers said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348835) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348776) said:
@lauren said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348772) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348735) said:
@lauren said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348644) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348607) said:
@mighty_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348601) said:
The team shows how slim pickings we have in the backs.

Tawl at prop big yes - should always play there he has never been a lock.

Joe isn’t a backrower, maybe a roving lock role could suit. He is actually one player trying week in week out.

Seyfarth on the bench is stupid. He is not an impact or hold player. Swap him for Amone and Liddle for Mbye and will be happy with the bench.

we can't carry Liddle and Simpkin in 17
hopefully next year Hastings or Brooks takes the Mmbye role

I think adding Liddle to the team would really lift our attacking options. Thought he only needed a bit of a spell tbh but in a shared role he's always been great due to his agility. It's also great to use as an additional playmaker with some experience.

if we dont move Brooks or Mmbye on next year with Hastings joining us I don't see a dual hooker role working, simpkin plays 80 mins.
if we dont have Brooks or mmbye then maybe Liddle on the bench could work as Hastings would then play 7. if Hastings plays 13 then we need a backrower on the bench that can cover centre if needed

I understand but with no disrespect you're talking about next year or something that doesn't benefit the team's productivity for this year.
You've mentioned Brooks and for the same reasons you've stated, this is why having someone like Jacob in the team increases our attacking options and somewhat relieves some of the pressure for our halves. He's already played alongside Brooks and has that combination in place and I don't think it sets Simpkin's development back but rather will only assist it.
Liddle is very sharp and it could be a real asset for us during the middle part of the game.

I see simpkin is about to be extended to 2024 I don't think Liddle will be here next year.
if Lidde does move on then no point playing him this season is just about done anyway, may aswell play Mmbye and hope someone buys him

I think we still need Liddle but he is within his rights to leve if he sees fit
Hopefully he repays us a year or two
If he ends up going to the dogs, it is another piece to their puzzle
If they land say a Mikaele and Finucane then they start to look dangerous
Especially if the Naden Rumours are true

do you think finucane will leave storm isn't he co captain, if he does want to come to Sydney then we should throw plenty at him

That's the million $ ?
If storm cand find a replacement then I think he will leave
He is off contract
If Melbourne wanted to keep him he would have re signed
I'm not sure why he hasn't
Could it be cap trouble ?
Finucane is a great player
Better than any of our forwards
A good tuff solid hard worker and he is consistent
Signing proven players from the Melbourne system would be a smart thing to do
 
@jedi_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348909) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348883) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348879) said:
@the_patriot said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348875) said:
Liddle is a first grader, all you Simpkins fan boys can rightly claim Jake is the better player but Liddle has been hard done by. What's more he has an attitude we desperately lack.

He should be on the bench.

the Liddle fan boys good luck to them he had first crack, he will get a run if simpkin is injured or Mmbye goes down etc. For balance of the team we dont need both in 17 we need a Mmbye type ball player who can come on at lock.

Don’t get too confident Simpkin hasn’t done anything..... yet

the club has picked the right horse in locking him up to 2024

That would be a dumb move only having played 2 games
 
@jedi_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348905) said:
@the_patriot said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348900) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348896) said:
@the_patriot said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348894) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348879) said:
@the_patriot said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348875) said:
Liddle is a first grader, all you Simpkins fan boys can rightly claim Jake is the better player but Liddle has been hard done by. What's more he has an attitude we desperately lack.

He should be on the bench.

the Liddle fan boys good luck to them he had first crack, he will get a run if simpkin is injured or Mmbye goes down etc. For balance of the team we dont need both in 17 we need a Mmbye type ball player who can come on at lock.


Sorry but you just defended MosesMybe, An absolute nuffy in trying to make it a black and white Liddle or Simkpins issue.

We need 17 players with the right attitude.

Liddle has never dogged it, cant say the same about Moses

Mmbye covers multiple positions
Liddle and Simpkin only cover dummy half that's it.
Next year we have Hastings t lock and we dont need a Mmbye role and we can carry Liddle on bench


Do you not remember Deno and Farah.

Do you not watch Smith and Smith, or Smith and Grant.

Having two hookers can be a real game changer and build much needed momentum and help roll the ruck.

Ill just assume you are Michael Maguire, and as one dimensional as him.

Brandon Smith played as a running forward not a dummy half cam Smith did far out.
Halatau played as a running forward and Robbie at dummy half
Both simpkin and liddle can't play that running type of forward role they are both dummy half's
I am thankful you are not picking the side champ wow

Mbye can cover abcd position but if no one gets injured what then?
Simpkin had a head knock in his 2nd game, he looked gassed before it happened. Liddle would offer more in the middle of the park than Mbye would and last 2 weeks has looked great in NSW Cup. Play him as a tandum with clear dart orders and his value would be far greater than Mbye for us

Mbye we also have told go look elsewhere, Liddle we haven’t yet. It’s time to do something different not the same old same old it doesn’t work rubbish.
 
@the_third said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348814) said:
@ancient_magpie said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348785) said:
How come nobody mentions Simpkin let the first try in and missed a number of tackles w hile Liddle had a good game in reggies .Is Simkin the latest favourite.


because he made about 51 tackles and had the big boppers running at him all day.

Isn’t that what happens in first grade. He did make plenty of tackles but did let a few threw, he is learning his trade and will improve.
 
@cultured_bogan said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348625) said:
@geo said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348623) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348615) said:
I'm OK with Musgrove getting the chop.

Would like to have seen Cini or Cooper picked in place of Talau. Cooper has scored 9 tries in the last five games.

Ofahengaue should be better in the middle.

Cooper not in the NRL squad..

Cini yes..

Ah OK, he should be vying for a top 30 spot if he keeps his form up.

Hopefully will get a run after round 10 to see how he handles NRL and see if he in contention for a top 30 spot.
 
@mighty_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348913) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348905) said:
@the_patriot said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348900) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348896) said:
@the_patriot said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348894) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348879) said:
@the_patriot said in [Wests Tigers Team v St George](/post/1348875) said:
Liddle is a first grader, all you Simpkins fan boys can rightly claim Jake is the better player but Liddle has been hard done by. What's more he has an attitude we desperately lack.

He should be on the bench.

the Liddle fan boys good luck to them he had first crack, he will get a run if simpkin is injured or Mmbye goes down etc. For balance of the team we dont need both in 17 we need a Mmbye type ball player who can come on at lock.


Sorry but you just defended MosesMybe, An absolute nuffy in trying to make it a black and white Liddle or Simkpins issue.

We need 17 players with the right attitude.

Liddle has never dogged it, cant say the same about Moses

Mmbye covers multiple positions
Liddle and Simpkin only cover dummy half that's it.
Next year we have Hastings t lock and we dont need a Mmbye role and we can carry Liddle on bench


Do you not remember Deno and Farah.

Do you not watch Smith and Smith, or Smith and Grant.

Having two hookers can be a real game changer and build much needed momentum and help roll the ruck.

Ill just assume you are Michael Maguire, and as one dimensional as him.

Brandon Smith played as a running forward not a dummy half cam Smith did far out.
Halatau played as a running forward and Robbie at dummy half
Both simpkin and liddle can't play that running type of forward role they are both dummy half's
I am thankful you are not picking the side champ wow

Mbye can cover abcd position but if no one gets injured what then?
Simpkin had a head knock in his 2nd game, he looked gassed before it happened. Liddle would offer more in the middle of the park than Mbye would and last 2 weeks has looked great in NSW Cup. Play him as a tandum with clear dart orders and his value would be far greater than Mbye for us

Mbye we also have told go look elsewhere, Liddle we haven’t yet. It’s time to do something different not the same old same old it doesn’t work rubbish.

Exactly
 
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