Wests Tigers Trial Squad v Dragons

[supercoach]

The bottom line, it doesn't matter how good or how bad you play in a trial, the round one side bar injury is already picked.

I have seen year after year players play the house down in the trials but mis selection for the round one team and usually to the incumbents. Don't get me wrong it gives a fringe player a stage to show case his talents and it is a good way to blow out some cob webs, but as a stage to force selection in the top grade, I don't think so

 

[GNR4LIFE]

i dont think Liddle is as sure a spot in our 17 as some think. one of my good mates is a coach at wyong (liddles juniour club) he said he'd been told by one of Liddle's best mates that he expected to play about 10-12 games of NRL this year.

I find it hard to believe he won't be in our best 17 every week barring injury. Big ask for Ballin to play 80 coming off 2 knee reconstructions and he's ahead of McIlwrick.

 

[240z]

The bottom line, it doesn't matter how good or how bad you play in a trial, the round one side bar injury is already picked.

I have seen year after year players play the house down in the trials but mis selection for the round one team and usually to the incumbents. Don't get me wrong it gives a fringe player a stage to show case his talents and it is a good way to blow out some cob webs, but as a stage to force selection in the top grade, I don't think so

So what does your 17 look like Supercoach

 

[innsaneink]

Who played the house down in trials in the past?

 

[TCL]

i dont think Liddle is as sure a spot in our 17 as some think. one of my good mates is a coach at wyong (liddles juniour club) he said he'd been told by one of Liddle's best mates that he expected to play about 10-12 games of NRL this year.

I find it hard to believe he won't be in our best 17 every week barring injury. Big ask for Ballin to play 80 coming off 2 knee reconstructions and he's ahead of McIlwrick.

i hope liddle is there, he will be an important part of our attack and his defence looked good in his only FG appearance but he will need to step up week in week out.

 

[happy_tiger]

And if a lot of these combinations don't work or struggle what next

Your top side should play at least two games together , even if it means creating a separate trial for the younger players and fringe players

New hookers , new centre , different back row combination more than likely

I'm just scratching my head in bewilderment at the moment

I doubt any teams will be fielding their best 17 this weekends trials

Your probably right Ink , but for the teams that came 9th -16th it is stupidity

I understand no Moses , but the rest of the side should be full strength

People said we did the same thing last season , yeah remind me , how did that work ??

As we saw last season we can't risk losing one game , you work on stuff during trials , not from Rd 1 onwards

here's a link for all the trial teams this weekend… http://www.nrl.com/all-stars-trial-games-team-lists/tabid/10874/newsid/103597/default.aspx

They are all doing it wrong it seems in the World according to happy..

Some clubs barely change personnel and don't need to continually change their defensive patterns Geo

And some clubs have multiples involved in the Friday game , we have 1

 

[tigerap]

No Lovett either…

 

[supercoach]

The bottom line, it doesn't matter how good or how bad you play in a trial, the round one side bar injury is already picked.

I have seen year after year players play the house down in the trials but mis selection for the round one team and usually to the incumbents. Don't get me wrong it gives a fringe player a stage to show case his talents and it is a good way to blow out some cob webs, but as a stage to force selection in the top grade, I don't think so

So what does your 17 look like Supercoach

You would have to ask JT…..But I guess much the same side as 2016 with the inclusion of Idris, and of course if Simona signs elsewhere we are looking for a new outside back, but JT and his team of coaches would have their 17 pretty well if not 100% decided by now

 

[TrueTiger]

Who played the house down in trials in the past?

Well Ink,not 100% sure,but last year or the year before,Hunt played on the wing and had good games…he didn't get a look in with the fg side...not saying he should have,but he did pretty well but JR was the first pick for that position...

I can guarantee that the top17 is already picked for round one,it is a matter of selecting the most valuable depth players to rely on for the year that doesn't inhibit the second tier cap...barring injuries...
These are the players that will make up the top squad,and of course you have to have a gauge on the new players such as Mcillrick,Idris and also the raw talented Suli...

I still reckon Taylor and his staff have already assembled the best most qualified team to be on the field all year,the rest of the squad have to be in the loop as far as structures and game plans go....exciting times ahead..

 

[supercoach]

Who played the house down in trials in the past?

Well Ink,not 100% sure,but last year or the year before,Hunt played on the wing and had good games…he didn't get a look in with the fg side...not saying he should have,but he did pretty well but JR was the first pick for that position...

I can guarantee that the top17 is already picked for round one,it is a matter of selecting the most valuable depth players to rely on for the year that doesn't inhibit the second tier cap...barring injuries...
These are the players that will make up the top squad,and of course you have to have a gauge on the new players such as Mcillrick,Idris and also the raw talented Suli...

I still reckon Taylor and his staff have already assembled the best most qualified team to be on the field all year,the rest of the squad have to be in the loop as far as structures and game plans go....exciting times ahead..

Pretty much how it works and all the roster would know who is in and who is out for round one and as TT said in the above post,the second tier cap presents any radical changes expecially early in the season as they do not want to be caught out late in the year when they may need to use second tier players.

 

[Demps]

JLJ isn't utilised enough.

I reckon he's a good player.
His attitude has seemed to improve - witnessed him a few times, playing for Manly - very lippy with refs, coaches and other players.

 

[TrueTiger]

JLJ isn't utilised enough.

I reckon he's a good player.
His attitude has seemed to improve - witnessed him a few times, playing for Manly - very lippy with refs, coaches and other players.

Yeah Demps although many don't seem to rate JLJ,in my books he is reliable when called on to do a job.. there are worst players going around than him…

 

[fergiefurr]

i dont think Liddle is as sure a spot in our 17 as some think. one of my good mates is a coach at wyong (liddles juniour club) he said he'd been told by one of Liddle's best mates that he expected to play about 10-12 games of NRL this year.

If he's in the 17 in round 1(which seems likely) and he plays well then I don't see why he wouldn't stay in the 17\. Playing him half a season would be arbitrary and stupid given he's not likely to be playing huge minutes.

just saying what i was told mate. it was surprising to me aswell. maybe they are trying to keep his expectations down.

 

[supercoach]

i dont think Liddle is as sure a spot in our 17 as some think. one of my good mates is a coach at wyong (liddles juniour club) he said he'd been told by one of Liddle's best mates that he expected to play about 10-12 games of NRL this year.

If he's in the 17 in round 1(which seems likely) and he plays well then I don't see why he wouldn't stay in the 17\. Playing him half a season would be arbitrary and stupid given he's not likely to be playing huge minutes.

just saying what i was told mate. it was surprising to me aswell. maybe they are trying to keep his expectations down.

They could be taking the conservative approach and easing him into the big time. They may think his body is not up to 80 minutes of high impact contact week in and week out. I think if your good enough..your old enough

 

[innsaneink]

Who played the house down in trials in the past?

Well Ink,not 100% sure,but last year or the year before,Hunt played on the wing and had good games…he didn't get a look in with the fg side...not saying he should have,but he did pretty well but JR was the first pick for that position...

I can guarantee that the top17 is already picked for round one,it is a matter of selecting the most valuable depth players to rely on for the year that doesn't inhibit the second tier cap...barring injuries...
These are the players that will make up the top squad,and of course you have to have a gauge on the new players such as Mcillrick,Idris and also the raw talented Suli...

I still reckon Taylor and his staff have already assembled the best most qualified team to be on the field all year,the rest of the squad have to be in the loop as far as structures and game plans go....exciting times ahead..

Pretty much how it works and all the roster would know who is in and who is out for round one and as TT said in the above post,the second tier cap presents any radical changes expecially early in the season as they do not want to be caught out late in the year when they may need to use second tier players.

Yeah… Not disagreeing.
All coaches would be hoping to stick with the same squad and make as. Little changes as. Possible thru the season

 

[balmain boy]

i dont think Liddle is as sure a spot in our 17 as some think. one of my good mates is a coach at wyong (liddles juniour club) he said he'd been told by one of Liddle's best mates that he expected to play about 10-12 games of NRL this year.

If he's in the 17 in round 1(which seems likely) and he plays well then I don't see why he wouldn't stay in the 17\. Playing him half a season would be arbitrary and stupid given he's not likely to be playing huge minutes.

just saying what i was told mate. it was surprising to me aswell. maybe they are trying to keep his expectations down.

They could be taking the conservative approach and easing him into the big time. They may think his body is not up to 80 minutes of high impact contact week in and week out. I think if your good enough..your old enough

Well it would certainly be about managing expectations.They're hardly going to be telling a young player who's played 30 mins in his career that he's expected to play every game this season. And if he is coming off the bench for 30 mins they may well drop him down to nsw cup every so often so he can get 80 mins under his belt to assist his development.

All depends how much game time her gets in NRL and how he handles it. I'm sure the coaches won't be disappointed if he ends up playing 26 games this season!

 

[fergiefurr]

Who played the house down in trials in the past?

Well Ink,not 100% sure,but last year or the year before,Hunt played on the wing and had good games…he didn't get a look in with the fg side...not saying he should have,but he did pretty well but JR was the first pick for that position...

I can guarantee that the top17 is already picked for round one,it is a matter of selecting the most valuable depth players to rely on for the year that doesn't inhibit the second tier cap...barring injuries...
These are the players that will make up the top squad,and of course you have to have a gauge on the new players such as Mcillrick,Idris and also the raw talented Suli...

I still reckon Taylor and his staff have already assembled the best most qualified team to be on the field all year,the rest of the squad have to be in the loop as far as structures and game plans go....exciting times ahead..

i think Hunt was going to get first crack at left wing but if you remember he got a back injury in the cronulla trial and missed the first six weeks of the season.

Aloiai and Felisse both impressed in that game and ended up playing first grade

 

[TrueTiger]

Just on this topic about trial games etc…some on here would remember playing for their hometown club or team going back quite a number of years say 30 and the coach would have say 32 players to pick a first grade side from,this was combining 1st and reserves together at the beginning of the season,it was commonly called the"possibles and probables"...
as the years progressed you had reserves and firsts with different coaches for both,the first grade coach may have taken a couple of the best regies for trialling in fg...this is still a similar format,however because of the high paid players now in NRL and the salary cap,the need for trials to pick players for is virtually non exsistent,they are now more a means of fitness and bleeding the younger ones for the grind of NRL...going back then, you had to impress the coach to keep your spot in fg...now a days your market value basically keeps you in fg or state cup until an injury or suspension etc occurs...I'm no expert but this is what used to happen,was it a good thing...absolutely,you had to perform week to week because there were players like TT breathing down your neck waiting for you to stuff up in fg so TT would be the automatic selection based on talent and ability,just wasn't quite up to the rigours of fg week to week because of heavy workloads and couldn't train all the time...(just taking the piss)...seriously though the big money these days has the biggest bearing on where the players play...

 

[Spartan117]

Apparently there's gonna be a stream of the Cowboys game.
Can someone confirm this?

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The following Friday night we have our final hit out at Campbelltown Sports Stadium against the Cowboys. This will provide the chance to see how we measure up against one of the leading sides in the NRL and welcome some of the superstars of the game to Campbelltown. As always this game is free for our Members and I encourage you to get out and enjoy a night at the football. For those of you who aren’t able to make it I pleased to announce that once again we’ll be live streaming the game through our website. This marks the third straight year that we’ve done so and the response each time has been great from our Members and fans. Triple M commentator Anthony Maroon will be joining us once again for what will surely be a light-hearted call of the game.

Bring back Liam fulton and Skando as commentators.

They were so bad it was great.

 

[Nelson]

i dont think Liddle is as sure a spot in our 17 as some think. one of my good mates is a coach at wyong (liddles juniour club) he said he'd been told by one of Liddle's best mates that he expected to play about 10-12 games of NRL this year.

If he's in the 17 in round 1(which seems likely) and he plays well then I don't see why he wouldn't stay in the 17\. Playing him half a season would be arbitrary and stupid given he's not likely to be playing huge minutes.

just saying what i was told mate. it was surprising to me aswell. maybe they are trying to keep his expectations down.

Yeah I don't doubt what you were told mate but I think you're probably right that it was about managing expectations. Hopefully he plays out of his skin and is the dominant hooker in the squad by the end of the season.