OFFICIAL Wests Tigers Unite: Call to Arms

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liltiger said:
The primary review was about the Wests Tiger governance not HBG. The powerplay happened imo as there are people behind the scenes who are not willing to allow the Wests Tigers autonomy away from the HBG. Hence why the implementation of the reviews findings havnt been implemented yet.
The petition now is about looking into the structure and governance of the HBG. The destabilisation was caused by Romero and others booting 3 boardmembers out, imo as they refuse to allow the Wests Tigers independence. The board members were all on board with the reviews findings. Romero and her side seem reluctant to implement them. If she believed in implementing the review, the Tigers would have an independant board ages ago.
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Correct.
 
Rugba said:
Not that I know the details of this issue such as many of you on the forum , but my layman’s perspective and that would be of the wider NRL community and average west tigers supporter. Is as follows


1) Why would the liquor and gaming board get involved? Has there been illegalities , fraud, organisation going broke?

Seems certain sections are just pissed off how west tigers operate . West tigers for one thing have nothing to do with the liquor and gaming board.

They got involved with the eels as the NRL due to connections with the actual government got them involved due to the alleged fraud occurring with the salary cap scandal.

As far as boards infighting and shit it would have nothing to do with the liquor board.

2)To me and many others this shitshow started with the review because closet/deep down ex Balmain supporters and officials can’t handle wests ownership of the west tigers.

Would Souths owners give up control to others on the board , would politis give up control of his board , have the penns given up their control , has win corporation lessened their board representation on dragons board … then why’s should HBG give up control when they actually own more of the west tigers than the various parties I listed on those respective clubs .

3) Reason why west tigers perform shit each season is that they are weak willed and cave to public perception from supporters and media and just cave and try the next thing and begin the circle.

Just like how media and supporters drove sheens out of town who had a plan not dissimilar to what Gus has been doing at the dogs … difference is they kept him despite media pressure and pissed off supporters in his first couple of years and now they are reaping the rewards.

Slam me all you want but what are the motivations , connection or relationship of those organising this petition have with various powerbrokers of the club
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1. Debentures are thoroughly undemocratic and a closed off form of governance for a licensed club.

2. It has nothing to do with old loyalties, it is 100% about Wests Tigers. For the record, personally I would happily let Balmain die today for a better Wests Tigers.

3. A perfect example, ironically, of why we are fighting for better governance and more professional management than we currently have from the HBG (along with Wests and Balmain).
 
Kaito said:
4) The recommended changes are made in full & we
Go on with our merry lives & enjoy season 2025 haha
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Exactly.

I'm not against HBG owning the Wests Tigers license. I'm against ...

1. The few muppets on the HBG board halting the progress of the review recommendations.
2. The way the HBG board is comprised.
3. The influence the HBG board has on the WT board.

Fix #2 and that will be go a long way in solving #1 & #3.
 
Joel Helmes said:
Correct.
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Why didn't you reply to my post #221?
Joel Helmes said:
1. Debentures are thoroughly undemocratic and a closed off form of governance for a licensed club.
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Given they are legal and in place for decades then your recent petition is an attempt to destabilise as not much can be achieved here right?
Joel Helmes said:
2. It has nothing to do with old loyalties, it is 100% about Wests Tigers. For the record, personally I would happily let Balmain die today for a better Wests Tigers.

3. A perfect example, ironically, of why we are fighting for better governance and more professional management than we currently have from the HBG (along with Wests and Balmain)
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This is your view.
 
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BlackWhiteGold said:
Exactly.

I'm not against HBG owning the Wests Tigers license. I'm against ...

1. The few muppets on the HBG board halting the progress of the review recommendations.
2. The way the HBG board is comprised.
3. The influence the HBG board has on the WT board.

Fix #2 and that will be go a long way in solving #1 & #3.
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But i dont see the issue

Id Russell crow was 90% owner of Wests tigers would you care , how he set up his ownership or directors he placed
Joel Helmes said:
1. Debentures are thoroughly undemocratic and a closed off form of governance for a licensed club.

2. It has nothing to do with old loyalties, it is 100% about Wests Tigers. For the record, personally I would happily let Balmain die today for a better Wests Tigers.

3. A perfect example, ironically, of why we are fighting for better governance and more professional management than we currently have from the HBG (along with Wests and Balmain).
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thanks for the response

But I don’t see no differences to the ownership structure of West Ashfield which no one has issues with how the licenced club is operated , agaisnt say Russell Crowe having 90% ownership of the west tigers and putting his own people on the board. I would expect the actual owners to do so

Again with not knowing the ins and outs of the club or how it operates I would say issues of professional management down to ceo /chairman

Everyone seems to love Richo on here , so I’m sure he would be operating the club professionally .

I put west tigers issues down to Pascoe and hatzi who were knee jerk specialists and that’s were the board went wrong not getting rid of them earlier
 
Rugba said:
But i dont see the issue

Id Russell crow was 90% owner of Wests tigers would you care , how he set up his ownership or directors he placed

thanks for the response

But I don’t see no differences to the ownership structure of West Ashfield which no one has issues with how the licenced club is operated , agaisnt say Russell Crowe having 90% ownership of the west tigers and putting his own people on the board. I would expect the actual owners to do so

Again with not knowing the ins and outs of the club or how it operates I would say issues of professional management down to ceo /chairman

Everyone seems to love Richo on here , so I’m sure he would be operating the club professionally .

I put west tigers issues down to Pascoe and hatzi who were knee jerk specialists and that’s were the board went wrong not getting rid of them earlier
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Yes you nailed it. Its not about Wests Tigers but faces we can put names to. The sad thing is is that they trash our name without a thought for Reality. Rather Fantasy.
 
Rugba said:
But i dont see the issue

Id Russell crow was 90% owner of Wests tigers would you care , how he set up his ownership or directors he placed

thanks for the response

But I don’t see no differences to the ownership structure of West Ashfield which no one has issues with how the licenced club is operated , agaisnt say Russell Crowe having 90% ownership of the west tigers and putting his own people on the board. I would expect the actual owners to do so

Again with not knowing the ins and outs of the club or how it operates I would say issues of professional management down to ceo /chairman

Everyone seems to love Richo on here , so I’m sure he would be operating the club professionally .

I put west tigers issues down to Pascoe and hatzi who were knee jerk specialists and that’s were the board went wrong not getting rid of them earlier
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Russell Crowe engages competent people and allows them to do their job
HBG has proved over recent years they are incapable of that.
 
Rugba said:
But i dont see the issue

Id Russell crow was 90% owner of Wests tigers would you care , how he set up his ownership or directors he placed

thanks for the response

But I don’t see no differences to the ownership structure of West Ashfield which no one has issues with how the licenced club is operated , agaisnt say Russell Crowe having 90% ownership of the west tigers and putting his own people on the board. I would expect the actual owners to do so

Again with not knowing the ins and outs of the club or how it operates I would say issues of professional management down to ceo /chairman

Everyone seems to love Richo on here , so I’m sure he would be operating the club professionally .

I put west tigers issues down to Pascoe and hatzi who were knee jerk specialists and that’s were the board went wrong not getting rid of them earlier
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HBG is a registered club in NSW and as such are required to be not for profit as well as provide benefits to members, including, I believe voting rights to at least 25% of members.

From what I can understand, the debenture system limits the ability of members to vote effectively as the power is held with 18 people. Maybe they hold elections, but it's about as good as a Venezuelan election. It's all an illusion.

@Joel Helmes @cochise please correct me if I'm wrong as I don't want to spread an incorrect narrative.
 
weststigers said:
HBG is a registered club in NSW and as such are required to be not for profit as well as provide benefits to members, including, I believe voting rights to at least 25% of members.

From what I can understand, the debenture system limits the ability of members to vote effectively as the power is held with 18 people. Maybe they hold elections, but it's about as good as a Venezuelan election. It's all an illusion.

@Joel Helmes @cochise please correct me if I'm wrong as I don't want to spread an incorrect narrative.
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Correct. A pool of 18 people who were never elected by members take 5 of 7 board positions at the HBG.
 
gallagher said:
In fairness they've brought in Richo and seem to be letting him to run things.
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Almost.

From the outset Richo has said he wants proper corporate governance & 100% implementation of the review. There are still a few recommendations to tick off & corporate governance is part of them.

Richo has a proven track record & has brought more positivity in his 12 months than the past 12 years. He has been appointed to turn this club around so the HBG board should let him.

If Richo walks, I fear there will be blood on the streets!
 
BlackWhiteGold said:
Almost.

From the outset Richo has said he wants proper corporate governance & 100% implementation of the review. There are still a few recommendations to tick off & corporate governance is part of them.

Richo has a proven track record & has brought more positivity in his 12 months than the past 12 years. He has been appointed to turn this club around so the HBG board should let him.

If Richo walks, I fear there will be blood on the streets!
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Oh yeah, we're screwed if he leaves. He's still here though, so that leads me to think that he's getting everything he needs to do his job. It might be a slow process but I think it's happening. I'll change my mind if he starts agitating.
 
gallagher said:
Oh yeah, we're screwed if he leaves. He's still here though, so that leads me to think that he's getting everything he needs to do his job. It might be a slow process but I think it's happening. I'll change my mind if he starts agitating.
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I would doubt if Richo agitates during this season but if things have not changed massively by the end of season 2025 i hate to think what will happen.Does anyone know if Chopper Read had an apprentice?
 
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