My point was not all recommendations have equal weight or importance.
OFFICIAL Wests Tigers Unite: Call to Arms
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Tito Santana
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Joel Helmes
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Speaking individually here, and not for Wests Tigers Unite.
The more I now know, in other words the more secrets I’ve been exposed to, the more I now realize that the people running this club for 25 years have a. Not been properly skilled b. Not been honest about their intentions.
We had may as well hand the license back if we’re going to keep going around on this entirely useless merry go round of Balmain and Wests.
Divided we fall, we’re falling people and it’s over two clubs that died 25 years ago.
The foundation clubs are mill stones around our neck and always have been.
It’s time to break up with our parents and their toxicity and go out into the world to start our own life.
The more I now know, in other words the more secrets I’ve been exposed to, the more I now realize that the people running this club for 25 years have a. Not been properly skilled b. Not been honest about their intentions.
We had may as well hand the license back if we’re going to keep going around on this entirely useless merry go round of Balmain and Wests.
Divided we fall, we’re falling people and it’s over two clubs that died 25 years ago.
The foundation clubs are mill stones around our neck and always have been.
It’s time to break up with our parents and their toxicity and go out into the world to start our own life.
hammertime
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Well said joel
Wasn't Ashfield I was referring to. But chatting to a few IT managers and gaming managers at other clubs, it was an industry wide thing
1000%
Tiger_Bond
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I think a certain few people in this forum should start their own thread in opposition of this thread and maybe call it “Wests Tigers Divide: Call to Disarm” as they seem to be ok with the fact that WT have been wooden spooners for the last 3 years and that the current board and debenture system allows a certain few in positions of power to be not held accountable.
Now me personally, I don’t give a feather what HBG does internally (wether they are successful or run all their own assets to the ground) but when they start to effect my Tigers than someone has to to be held accountable.
FACT - I am only here as I am a rusted on Wests Tigers fan (God knows I don’t need anymore “friends”)
FACT - HBG has overseen 3 x wooden spoons and they need to be held accountable
HBG can keep their debenture system but let go of the Wests Tigers and let the NRL take it from here
Now me personally, I don’t give a feather what HBG does internally (wether they are successful or run all their own assets to the ground) but when they start to effect my Tigers than someone has to to be held accountable.
FACT - I am only here as I am a rusted on Wests Tigers fan (God knows I don’t need anymore “friends”)
FACT - HBG has overseen 3 x wooden spoons and they need to be held accountable
HBG can keep their debenture system but let go of the Wests Tigers and let the NRL take it from here
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Well said.
I'd simplify it even more. No one would give a rats arse about the debenture system if the debenture holders were happy to have their snouts in one traugh only - The HBG board.
They could have continued to play musical chairs and elect one another into perpetuity (And their wives, cousins etc).
All they would need to have done is then select/recruitment skilled and capable people to sit on the Weststigers Board.
Instead we have individuals sitting on two boards they are ill equipped to be on.
innsaneink
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This all stems from Burgess allegedly saying to Stapleton "We are bringing back the Magpies"
It would be very easy to ease a lot of mis-trust if he just came out and denied this occurred...if in fact he didnt say these things.
Silence is deafening, and many equate to guilt...rightly or wrongly.
Burgess and Romero say nothing but hide behind vague press releases, youd be hard pressed to find a direct quote from either.
Joel Helmes
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Wests Tigers Unite
For ALL Wests Tigers Fans
Press Release
5th January 2025
Wests Tigers Unite Says Balmain Needs To Break Silence
Wests Tigers Unite says reports that the Balmain Tigers (BTRLFC) have, or are, considering an approach from a potential New Zealand-based NRL expansion franchise are extremely disappointing.
And, further to this, the Balmain representative on the Wests Tigers board, Balmain Tigers Chairman, Danny Stapleton, needs to explain his part in any talks with the Kiwi bid team.
If Mr Stapleton has taken part in talks with a potential rival NRL outfit, simply, we believe he should immediately resign from his position as this would make him unfit to sit on the Wests Tigers board.
Our group, a strong combination of Wests Tigers-focussed social media and podcast platforms, is working hard towards a common goal - a unified and successful Wests Tigers.
Sadly, what is becoming increasingly obvious to us, is that the foundation clubs, and the self-interest of some individuals, is getting in the way of the NRL club’s progress.
That is why we have asked for and are in support of a Liquor & Gaming NSW review into the governance of the Holman Barnes Group (HBG).
It is why we want the HBG board to implement, or at least timeline, the recommendations of the 2023 review into Wests Tigers management and culture.
Now, it is why we are letting the BTRLFC know that we will not tolerate division, nor will we turn a blind eye to any evidence supplied to us that shows their club is failing to meet corporate governance requirements.
We don’t want Balmain to leave the family that is Wests Tigers, however, we will no longer be allowing the foundation clubs, and those who wish to tear the Wests Tigers apart, to wield influence over the NRL club.
The Balmain Tigers need to come forward ASAP and be completely transparent with the Wests Tigers fans.
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For ALL Wests Tigers Fans
Press Release
5th January 2025
Wests Tigers Unite Says Balmain Needs To Break Silence
Wests Tigers Unite says reports that the Balmain Tigers (BTRLFC) have, or are, considering an approach from a potential New Zealand-based NRL expansion franchise are extremely disappointing.
And, further to this, the Balmain representative on the Wests Tigers board, Balmain Tigers Chairman, Danny Stapleton, needs to explain his part in any talks with the Kiwi bid team.
If Mr Stapleton has taken part in talks with a potential rival NRL outfit, simply, we believe he should immediately resign from his position as this would make him unfit to sit on the Wests Tigers board.
Our group, a strong combination of Wests Tigers-focussed social media and podcast platforms, is working hard towards a common goal - a unified and successful Wests Tigers.
Sadly, what is becoming increasingly obvious to us, is that the foundation clubs, and the self-interest of some individuals, is getting in the way of the NRL club’s progress.
That is why we have asked for and are in support of a Liquor & Gaming NSW review into the governance of the Holman Barnes Group (HBG).
It is why we want the HBG board to implement, or at least timeline, the recommendations of the 2023 review into Wests Tigers management and culture.
Now, it is why we are letting the BTRLFC know that we will not tolerate division, nor will we turn a blind eye to any evidence supplied to us that shows their club is failing to meet corporate governance requirements.
We don’t want Balmain to leave the family that is Wests Tigers, however, we will no longer be allowing the foundation clubs, and those who wish to tear the Wests Tigers apart, to wield influence over the NRL club.
The Balmain Tigers need to come forward ASAP and be completely transparent with the Wests Tigers fans.
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innsaneink
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Id be happy to NEVER hear the term "joint venture" ever again.
We are our own entity now
tigertragic
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The board members punted could bring their matter to court ?
They’ve had over a year to enact what they voted for…. and have left the most important until last.
You seriously don’t think they’re deliberately dragging the chain?
How could you possibly interpret what I said as excusing delays in implementation? I was talking about reviews generally. I haven't followed this review as closely as you seem to have done. I didn't know the HBG board had accepted all recommendations. If they have, that's unusual. I'm also not aware of any timeline on implementing recommendations but there may be.
If you're looking for a fight, try somewhere else.
From what I understand they accepted and agreed to implement all recommendations then there was an uprising on the board the guys who are currently banned were ousted from being in charge then all progress implementing them stopped.
That is the way i read the situation as well,i doubt if Julie or Dennis will allow the rest of the recomendations that were agreed to but will just continualy block and delay and give mealy mouthed reasons to do nothing
Because the team has come last 3 years in a row and has been an absolute basket case since sheens got sacked 1st time around , which coincides with the timeline of HBG taking over full operations control of the club because of the Balmain Tigers falling in a heap .
Absolute straw man if I’ve ever seen it …
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It is a Balmain - wests thing . Amongst a certain age group . But the operations issue now holding us back is a HBG issue . Balmain have little to do with that outside of politicking and influencing fans .
Like the Mole and his bullshit articles . Deliberately misleading .
gallagher
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I think it's best handled with press release and the club statement covered most everything. If Burgess came out and denied the allegations he'd just be called a liar. Which he may well be, but it wouldn't satisfy anyone.
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