WestsTigers 2018 Engine Room- Front Rowers

NRL
Starting
Ben Matulino
Russell Packer

14\. Alex Twal
15\. Tim Grant

ISP-
Starting
Jordan Grant
Sauaso sue

Bench Prop rotation
14\. JJ. Felise
15\. Junior Tatola
 
Grant signed to play in the QLD Cup..

Matulino, Packer, Grant, Twal and Sue is a pretty good rotation ..the minutes should be shared fairly well…

Getting up the field wasn't that much of a problem this year tho...finishing was ...that and stopping teams rolling through us was...
 
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Grant signed to play in the QLD Cup..

Matulino, Packer, Grant, Twal and Sue is a pretty good rotation ..the minutes should be shared fairly well…

Getting up the field wasn't that much of a problem this year tho...finishing was ...that and stopping teams rolling through us was...

Geo - I was overseas from mid June onwards and missed the rest of the season. I visited this site pretty regularly and got the impression from comments that our middle third defence improved with the addition of Twal and Eisenhuth to the pack.

Is that right, or did we still struggle to contain the opposition go-forward?
 
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Grant signed to play in the QLD Cup..

Matulino, Packer, Grant, Twal and Sue is a pretty good rotation ..the minutes should be shared fairly well…

Getting up the field wasn't that much of a problem this year tho...finishing was ...that and stopping teams rolling through us was...

Geo - I was overseas from mid June onwards and missed the rest of the season. I visited this site pretty regularly and got the impression from comments that our middle third defence improved with the addition of Twal and Eisenhuth to the pack.

Is that right, or did we still struggle to contain the opposition go-forward?

Improved almost beat Roosters with them
 
Sue improved a lot over the last few weeks, the only role he looks ok in is as a bench prop.
Obviously the two new signings will start, but Sue, Twal, Aloiai and Marshall would probably be my bench in round 1, with Eisenhuth at 13 and two of Taylor, Lawrence and McQueen in the second row.

Actually we have too many players, I can't pick a squad let's wait until round 1.
 
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Sue improved a lot over the last few weeks, the only role he looks ok in is as a bench prop.
Obviously the two new signings will start, but Sue, Twal, Aloiai and Marshall would probably be my bench in round 1, with Eisenhuth at 13 and two of Taylor, Lawrence and McQueen in the second row.

Actually we have too many players, I can't pick a squad let's wait until round 1.

Similar to Sue, I thought Tim Grant had some good games at the back end of the season. However one of these two could be playing Reggies. Unless we go with three front rowers on the bench.
I guess the pre season will re-set the peaking order.
 
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Grant signed to play in the QLD Cup..

Matulino, Packer, Grant, Twal and Sue is a pretty good rotation ..the minutes should be shared fairly well…

Getting up the field wasn't that much of a problem this year tho...finishing was ...that and stopping teams rolling through us was...

Disagree… Getting up the field as a team was acceptable, but it wasnt done through the middle and by our Props like the smart teams. It was obvious Cleary would designate sets were he was resting our big timber [assuming due to fitness], and while it worked it also allowed the opposition defence to maintain its structure.

If we are going to be competitive in 2018, we will need more meters in the middle and less of this rubbish angle and wider running from our Props. To achieve this, we must have 3 props on the park for the 80min, and ensure they display the discipline of playing tighter. Matulino and Packer are 2 who I feel can execute this, in conjunction with Eisenhower at 13\. Therefore, I'd play either Packer or Matulino from the Bench to maintain this discipline throughout matches, allowing Twal to complete his apprenticeship as an NRL Prop without the stress of having to do more than expected.

Another player who plays tighter and will go about his domestic duties in attack is JJ Felise. Sadely, he is too lazy and lacks concentration in Defence. I'm hoping Cleary can fix this aspect of his game.

Any thought of playing Josh Aloiai in Prop Rotation is pure madness. This bloke is an edge forward and if he can stay fit [and be allowed to play wide] could become our best Forward.
 
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Grant signed to play in the QLD Cup..

Matulino, Packer, Grant, Twal and Sue is a pretty good rotation ..the minutes should be shared fairly well…

Getting up the field wasn't that much of a problem this year tho...finishing was ...that and stopping teams rolling through us was...

Disagree… Getting up the field as a team was acceptable, but it wasnt done through the middle and by our Props like the smart teams. It was obvious Cleary would designate sets were he was resting our big timber [assuming due to fitness], and while it worked it also allowed the opposition defence to maintain its structure.

If we are going to be competitive in 2018, we will need more meters in the middle and less of this rubbish angle and wider running from our Props. To achieve this, we must have 3 props on the park for the 80min, and ensure they display the discipline of playing tighter. Matulino and Packer are 2 who I feel can execute this, in conjunction with Eisenhower at 13\. Therefore, I'd play either Packer or Matulino from the Bench to maintain this discipline throughout matches, allowing Twal to complete his apprenticeship as an NRL Prop without the stress of having to do more than expected.

Another player who plays tighter and will go about his domestic duties in attack is JJ Felise. Sadely, he is too lazy and lacks concentration in Defence. I'm hoping Cleary can fix this aspect of his game.

Any thought of playing Josh Aloiai in Prop Rotation is pure madness. This bloke is an edge forward and if he can stay fit [and be allowed to play wide] could become our best Forward.

Sorry..I fell asleep at Disagree…
 
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Grant signed to play in the QLD Cup..

Matulino, Packer, Grant, Twal and Sue is a pretty good rotation ..the minutes should be shared fairly well…

Getting up the field wasn't that much of a problem this year tho...finishing was ...that and stopping teams rolling through us was...

Disagree… Getting up the field as a team was acceptable, but it wasnt done through the middle and by our Props like the smart teams. It was obvious Cleary would designate sets were he was resting our big timber [assuming due to fitness], and while it worked it also allowed the opposition defence to maintain its structure.

If we are going to be competitive in 2018, we will need more meters in the middle and less of this rubbish angle and wider running from our Props. To achieve this, we must have 3 props on the park for the 80min, and ensure they display the discipline of playing tighter. Matulino and Packer are 2 who I feel can execute this, in conjunction with Eisenhower at 13\. Therefore, I'd play either Packer or Matulino from the Bench to maintain this discipline throughout matches, allowing Twal to complete his apprenticeship as an NRL Prop without the stress of having to do more than expected.

Another player who plays tighter and will go about his domestic duties in attack is JJ Felise. Sadely, he is too lazy and lacks concentration in Defence. I'm hoping Cleary can fix this aspect of his game.

Any thought of playing Josh Aloiai in Prop Rotation is pure madness. This bloke is an edge forward and if he can stay fit [and be allowed to play wide] could become our best Forward.

Sorry..I fell asleep at Disagree…

you need to get back on those little blue pills again mate… They will keep you going longer!
 
I like the three prop on field model. Which Cleary started doing in the second half of the season, when Eiso went to 13.
If Aloiai starts at 11 ..that's a very big pack. Then you'd have ET, McQueen, Lawrence all competing for the 12 jumper.
A lot of the make up of the Forwards and bench seems to come down to Aloiai. I'd like him to start in the second row and give impact to our edge. (Sue didn't work out there) as we seem to have enough middle guys to do the job.
 
Empty place for a 2nd rower - Ben Murdoch-Masila?
He went well last night, his powerful angle ruins could be useful, he was always our big hope :sign:
 
Eisenhuth was solid and a workhorse, but limited impact. I think he would be better off the bench.
Start with Packer and Twal, ET and Lawrence in the 2nd row and draw straws for lock.
Bench: Matulino, Aloiai, Sue, Eisenhuth, McQueen (with one playing lock) and a utility player who will need to play minutes at dummy half
 

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