What will your views be on JT and the club if......

@Snake said:
All I read is no player in the NRL worth anything.. No player agent.. No decent assistant coaches …no one of any statue will come to the Weststigers while Taylor is the head coach .Now can anyone that has posted any of the above PLEASE verify who and where they have heard this .It is becoming increasingly difficult to believe any of this .It may well be true but verification would be a start,the vitriol against Taylor is becoming ridiculous I know what I see and do hear a few things from time to time but never heard any of the above. I believe it is more about Taylor finally calling out the favourite son and putting him in his place .

Report coming out fro NRLPA in the next few weeks is apparently damning on Taylor.
New CEO will have no choice but to act. This is a forum not a court room everything here is rumours and inside info from people that don't put their name to it. It has been reported by SMH and DT so this report will be coming
 
@foreveratiger said:
@happy tiger said:
@foreveratiger said:
If by any Chance JT gets us playing Semi Final Footy in 2016 ? he deserves to see out his Contract….no if buts or maybes .
I will also eat humble Pie and admit that i have absolutely no knowledge of how games plans should be instructed and while i'm at it will apologize for being so wrong in my Judgement of him being a Coach.

I think the above is such at long Odds to happen it's not funny.

And If we finish between 14th - 16th in 2016 ? i would like to see the Jason Taylor lovers admit that he simply hasn't got it and they were wrong ever thinking he had it :mrgreen: :laughing:

He still doesn't have the playing roster

Give him our 2012 roster and if he failed axe him

Our 2012 roster would put 50 past the 2016 version

So finishing between 14th-16th is quite O.K for you and he shouldn't be held accountable ?

I disagree with you. Improvements should be witnessed within the Squad if they believe in his methods.

I'm not saying Top 8 is a must with this Squad ? i don't think we are , but 10th to 13th should be achievable IMO at the very least.

And what if he gets 14th and we lost Tedesco ,Woods ,Brooks and Moses Round 1 for the season

We can all be judges at the end of 2016 one way or the other

We are still a bottom 4 side talent wise and nothing can mask that

Trying to make excuses for why NRL talent hasn't been remotely interested in coming to the WT's has to be a concern

Been happening for a long time now and has covered 3 different coaches and a few different boards

There is obviously a lot more to all this than people think
 
All this club does half well is produce juniors… We buy cheap average coaches... Buy cast off unwanted players... Our membership is average... Home ground situation average
We will never be a Broncos, Roosters etc
 
Injuries may determine our fate based on our depth. Hard to criticise any coach when you have a horrific injury toll like we had for a couple of years and Penrith or Titans had this year. Unfortunately luck can play a big part in our game down to a simple innocuous tackle that can end a players season.

But to answer your question, I think JT was brought in as a henchman (whether he knows it or not), and as soon as the job is done he will be removed unless he achieves what is perceived as "satisfactory" in 2016.
 
@happy tiger said:
@foreveratiger said:
If by any Chance JT gets us playing Semi Final Footy in 2016 ? he deserves to see out his Contract….no if buts or maybes .
I will also eat humble Pie and admit that i have absolutely no knowledge of how games plans should be instructed and while i'm at it will apologize for being so wrong in my Judgement of him being a Coach.

I think the above is such at long Odds to happen it's not funny.

And If we finish between 14th - 16th in 2016 ? i would like to see the Jason Taylor lovers admit that he simply hasn't got it and they were wrong ever thinking he had it :mrgreen: :laughing:

He still doesn't have the playing roster

Give him our 2012 roster and if he failed axe him

Our 2012 roster would put 50 past the 2016 version

That's not our first excuse being put in place for Taylor in 2016, is it Happy?? :laughing:
 
@TYGA said:
@Snake said:
All I read is no player in the NRL worth anything.. No player agent.. No decent assistant coaches …no one of any statue will come to the Weststigers while Taylor is the head coach .Now can anyone that has posted any of the above PLEASE verify who and where they have heard this .It is becoming increasingly difficult to believe any of this .It may well be true but verification would be a start,the vitriol against Taylor is becoming ridiculous I know what I see and do hear a few things from time to time but never heard any of the above. I believe it is more about Taylor finally calling out the favourite son and putting him in his place .

Report coming out fro NRLPA in the next few weeks is apparently damning on Taylor.
New CEO will have no choice but to act. This is a forum not a court room everything here is rumours and inside info from people that don't put their name to it. It has been reported by SMH and DT so this report will be coming

Ok
CEO will HAVE to act but it's so damning we have to wait a few weeks
I see…
\
\
... And we're waiting for what?
Something so important it will come out near Christmas time?

Righto then
 
@happy tiger said:
@foreveratiger said:
@happy tiger said:
@foreveratiger said:
If by any Chance JT gets us playing Semi Final Footy in 2016 ? he deserves to see out his Contract….no if buts or maybes .
I will also eat humble Pie and admit that i have absolutely no knowledge of how games plans should be instructed and while i'm at it will apologize for being so wrong in my Judgement of him being a Coach.

I think the above is such at long Odds to happen it's not funny.

And If we finish between 14th - 16th in 2016 ? i would like to see the Jason Taylor lovers admit that he simply hasn't got it and they were wrong ever thinking he had it :mrgreen: :laughing:

He still doesn't have the playing roster

Give him our 2012 roster and if he failed axe him

Our 2012 roster would put 50 past the 2016 version

So finishing between 14th-16th is quite O.K for you and he shouldn't be held accountable ?

I disagree with you. Improvements should be witnessed within the Squad if they believe in his methods.

I'm not saying Top 8 is a must with this Squad ? i don't think we are , but 10th to 13th should be achievable IMO at the very least.

And what if he gets 14th and we lost Tedesco ,Woods ,Brooks and Moses Round 1 for the season

We can all be judges at the end of 2016 one way or the other

We are still a bottom 4 side talent wise and nothing can mask that

Trying to make excuses for why NRL talent hasn't been remotely interested in coming to the WT's has to be a concern

Been happening for a long time now and has covered 3 different coaches and a few different boards

There is obviously a lot more to all this than people think

Yep
Much more and a whole lot deeper than just one JT
 
@goldcoast tiger said:
@happy tiger said:
@foreveratiger said:
If by any Chance JT gets us playing Semi Final Footy in 2016 ? he deserves to see out his Contract….no if buts or maybes .
I will also eat humble Pie and admit that i have absolutely no knowledge of how games plans should be instructed and while i'm at it will apologize for being so wrong in my Judgement of him being a Coach.

I think the above is such at long Odds to happen it's not funny.

And If we finish between 14th - 16th in 2016 ? i would like to see the Jason Taylor lovers admit that he simply hasn't got it and they were wrong ever thinking he had it :mrgreen: :laughing:

He still doesn't have the playing roster

Give him our 2012 roster and if he failed axe him

Our 2012 roster would put 50 past the 2016 version

That's not our first excuse being put in place for Taylor in 2016, is it Happy?? :laughing:

No GCT

Its all fact

Every issue this club has , has been around for a very long time

Would you agree ??

Its has carried on through numerous coaches and boards

Yet its Marina Go's fault and Jason Taylor's fault

Does anyone see the complete lack of logic in that ??

I'm as angry as the next bloke / bird about what has happened , but what will blaming the current management who are doing their darnedest to get us into a position in the future where we might actually be competitive and financial

I apologize for bringing logic into the conversation , but it had to happen
 
@innsaneink said:
@foreveratiger said:
If by any Chance JT gets us playing Semi Final Footy in 2016 ? he deserves to see out his Contract….no if buts or maybes .
I will also eat humble Pie and admit that i have absolutely no knowledge of how games plans should be instructed and while i'm at it will apologize for being so wrong in my Judgement of him being a Coach.

I think the above is such at long Odds to happen it's not funny.

And If we finish between 14th - 16th in 2016 ? i would like to see the Jason Taylor lovers admit that he simply hasn't got it and they were wrong ever thinking he had it :mrgreen: :laughing:

Who are they… These JT lovers?
You guys pushing these factions are pathetic.

On the OP, my opinions won't be if we do or don't make the eight.... How we play... How we carry ourselves as a club... The attitude we display or lack of it onfield... How we react to adversity (players coach and board)... These things are what's important to me... Most of these need a major improvement on this year.

We can be average and scrape into the eight or we can play proudly and very well but unluckily just miss... Who knows?

You surely can't be that blind/stupid to not know who the JT lovers are, I mean you are on here more than anyone else.
 
@TYGA said:
@Snake said:
All I read is no player in the NRL worth anything.. No player agent.. No decent assistant coaches …no one of any statue will come to the Weststigers while Taylor is the head coach .Now can anyone that has posted any of the above PLEASE verify who and where they have heard this .It is becoming increasingly difficult to believe any of this .It may well be true but verification would be a start,the vitriol against Taylor is becoming ridiculous I know what I see and do hear a few things from time to time but never heard any of the above. I believe it is more about Taylor finally calling out the favourite son and putting him in his place .

Report coming out fro NRLPA in the next few weeks is apparently damning on Taylor.
New CEO will have no choice but to act. This is a forum not a court room everything here is rumours and inside info from people that don't put their name to it. It has been reported by SMH and DT so this report will be coming

If you read the article it smacks of a beat up by Ayoub and Rothfield. The barrister, who supposedly has no connections with rugby league, did an " independent " report stated " “All I can say is you’ve got to wonder who this Jason Taylor is.” and “Robbie has been a trooper for the club for many years,” So she has no connection with league, doesn't know who Taylor is but can state Robbie has been a trooper for the club for many years. Give me a break.
 
@851 said:
@innsaneink said:
@foreveratiger said:
If by any Chance JT gets us playing Semi Final Footy in 2016 ? he deserves to see out his Contract….no if buts or maybes .
I will also eat humble Pie and admit that i have absolutely no knowledge of how games plans should be instructed and while i'm at it will apologize for being so wrong in my Judgement of him being a Coach.

I think the above is such at long Odds to happen it's not funny.

And If we finish between 14th - 16th in 2016 ? i would like to see the Jason Taylor lovers admit that he simply hasn't got it and they were wrong ever thinking he had it :mrgreen: :laughing:

Who are they… These JT lovers?
You guys pushing these factions are pathetic.

On the OP, my opinions won't be if we do or don't make the eight.... How we play... How we carry ourselves as a club... The attitude we display or lack of it onfield... How we react to adversity (players coach and board)... These things are what's important to me... Most of these need a major improvement on this year.

We can be average and scrape into the eight or we can play proudly and very well but unluckily just miss... Who knows?

You surely can't be that blind/stupid to not know who the JT lovers are, I mean you are on here more than anyone else.

Defending Taylor doesn't make anyone a lover

Wondering how intelligent supporters can see the same issues reoccurring year after year and then passing the blame onto the next person is baffling though
 
@happy tiger said:
@goldcoast tiger said:
@happy tiger said:
@foreveratiger said:
If by any Chance JT gets us playing Semi Final Footy in 2016 ? he deserves to see out his Contract….no if buts or maybes .
I will also eat humble Pie and admit that i have absolutely no knowledge of how games plans should be instructed and while i'm at it will apologize for being so wrong in my Judgement of him being a Coach.

I think the above is such at long Odds to happen it's not funny.

And If we finish between 14th - 16th in 2016 ? i would like to see the Jason Taylor lovers admit that he simply hasn't got it and they were wrong ever thinking he had it :mrgreen: :laughing:

He still doesn't have the playing roster

Give him our 2012 roster and if he failed axe him

Our 2012 roster would put 50 past the 2016 version

That's not our first excuse being put in place for Taylor in 2016, is it Happy?? :laughing:

No GCT

Its all fact

Every issue this club has , has been around for a very long time

Would you agree ??

Its has carried on through numerous coaches and boards

Yet its Marina Go's fault and Jason Taylor's fault

Does anyone see the complete lack of logic in that ??

I'm as angry as the next bloke / bird about what has happened , but what will blaming the current management who are doing their darnedest to get us into a position in the future where we might actually be competitive and financial

I apologize for bringing logic into the conversation , but it had to happen

theres plenty of things that The new board and Coach have done since they have arrived, that have no connection to previous management.
Those have been well documented over and over through the forum, from Taylors inept coaching and excuses, to the club releasing players early , for no real advantage to the team. And buying a 31 yr old hooker who is not better than three (including halatau) that we already have.
I have never said that the board is responsible for the past state of the club.
This club just lurches from one debacle to another. Nothing's really changed.
 
@happy tiger said:
@851 said:
@innsaneink said:
@foreveratiger said:
If by any Chance JT gets us playing Semi Final Footy in 2016 ? he deserves to see out his Contract….no if buts or maybes .
I will also eat humble Pie and admit that i have absolutely no knowledge of how games plans should be instructed and while i'm at it will apologize for being so wrong in my Judgement of him being a Coach.

I think the above is such at long Odds to happen it's not funny.

And If we finish between 14th - 16th in 2016 ? i would like to see the Jason Taylor lovers admit that he simply hasn't got it and they were wrong ever thinking he had it :mrgreen: :laughing:

Who are they… These JT lovers?
You guys pushing these factions are pathetic.

On the OP, my opinions won't be if we do or don't make the eight.... How we play... How we carry ourselves as a club... The attitude we display or lack of it onfield... How we react to adversity (players coach and board)... These things are what's important to me... Most of these need a major improvement on this year.

We can be average and scrape into the eight or we can play proudly and very well but unluckily just miss... Who knows?

You surely can't be that blind/stupid to not know who the JT lovers are, I mean you are on here more than anyone else.

Defending Taylor doesn't make anyone a lover

Wondering how intelligent supporters can see the same issues reoccurring year after year and then passing the blame onto the next person is baffling though

We all know Farah is the problem happy , but if I were stuck in the trenches with taylor , I'd defect to the other side !

… But we know you love JT ,,, just admit. It :smiley:
 
@happy tiger said:
@851 said:
@innsaneink said:
@foreveratiger said:
If by any Chance JT gets us playing Semi Final Footy in 2016 ? he deserves to see out his Contract….no if buts or maybes .
I will also eat humble Pie and admit that i have absolutely no knowledge of how games plans should be instructed and while i'm at it will apologize for being so wrong in my Judgement of him being a Coach.

I think the above is such at long Odds to happen it's not funny.

And If we finish between 14th - 16th in 2016 ? i would like to see the Jason Taylor lovers admit that he simply hasn't got it and they were wrong ever thinking he had it :mrgreen: :laughing:

Who are they… These JT lovers?
You guys pushing these factions are pathetic.

On the OP, my opinions won't be if we do or don't make the eight.... How we play... How we carry ourselves as a club... The attitude we display or lack of it onfield... How we react to adversity (players coach and board)... These things are what's important to me... Most of these need a major improvement on this year.

We can be average and scrape into the eight or we can play proudly and very well but unluckily just miss... Who knows?

You surely can't be that blind/stupid to not know who the JT lovers are, I mean you are on here more than anyone else.

Defending Taylor doesn't make anyone a lover

Wondering how intelligent supporters can see the same issues reoccurring year after year and then passing the blame onto the next person is baffling though

It's that generation who cannot accept any responsibility…. It's always someone else's fault... That damn JT... Everything was fine before he arrived
 
@851 said:
@innsaneink said:
@foreveratiger said:
If by any Chance JT gets us playing Semi Final Footy in 2016 ? he deserves to see out his Contract….no if buts or maybes .
I will also eat humble Pie and admit that i have absolutely no knowledge of how games plans should be instructed and while i'm at it will apologize for being so wrong in my Judgement of him being a Coach.

I think the above is such at long Odds to happen it's not funny.

And If we finish between 14th - 16th in 2016 ? i would like to see the Jason Taylor lovers admit that he simply hasn't got it and they were wrong ever thinking he had it :mrgreen: :laughing:

Who are they… These JT lovers?
You guys pushing these factions are pathetic.

On the OP, my opinions won't be if we do or don't make the eight.... How we play... How we carry ourselves as a club... The attitude we display or lack of it onfield... How we react to adversity (players coach and board)... These things are what's important to me... Most of these need a major improvement on this year.

We can be average and scrape into the eight or we can play proudly and very well but unluckily just miss... Who knows?

You surely can't be that blind/stupid to not know who the JT lovers are, I mean you are on here more than anyone else.

I see a pitchfork bearing, screaming lynch mob…. And I see rational club supporters with a balanced view

Names please forever, 851.
 
If we make the 8 …he sees out his contract..

If we don't well that's much of the same for all bar 3 years of 17...may as well punt him....the problems with this Club run much deeper than Jason Taylor...there has never been real accountability from the Board, previous CEO's, Coaches, Playing group and off-field staff...I just pray that I live to see it happen....more important to me than winning a comp...

Oh ...good one Happy...mocking players to injury even before we've kicked a ball in anger...give yourself a uppercut... :brick:
 
@Geo. said:
If we make the 8 …he sees out his contract..

If we don't well that's much of the same for all bar 3 years of 17...may as well punt him....the problems with this Club run much deeper than Jason Taylor...there has never been real accountability from the Board, previous CEO's, Coaches, Playing group and off-field staff...I just pray that I live to see it happen....more important to me than winning a comp...

Oh ...good one Happy...mocking players to injury even before we've kicked a ball in anger...give yourself a uppercut... :brick:

Yes but think how rested these blokes will be for 2017

Our year of redemption ,resurrection ,revival , resurgence ,reversal , reneging , revaluation , rebelling, regurgitating , rehearsal ,relaxation and then the realization we are dreaming yet again
 
@diedpretty said:
@TYGA said:
@Snake said:
All I read is no player in the NRL worth anything.. No player agent.. No decent assistant coaches …no one of any statue will come to the Weststigers while Taylor is the head coach .Now can anyone that has posted any of the above PLEASE verify who and where they have heard this .It is becoming increasingly difficult to believe any of this .It may well be true but verification would be a start,the vitriol against Taylor is becoming ridiculous I know what I see and do hear a few things from time to time but never heard any of the above. I believe it is more about Taylor finally calling out the favourite son and putting him in his place .

Report coming out fro NRLPA in the next few weeks is apparently damning on Taylor.
New CEO will have no choice but to act. This is a forum not a court room everything here is rumours and inside info from people that don't put their name to it. It has been reported by SMH and DT so this report will be coming

If you read the article it smacks of a beat up by Ayoub and Rothfield. **The barrister, who supposedly has no connections with rugby league,** did an " independent " report stated " “All I can say is you’ve got to wonder who this Jason Taylor is.” and “Robbie has been a trooper for the club for many years,” **So she has no connection with league,** doesn't know who Taylor is but can state Robbie has been a trooper for the club for many years. Give me a break.

Well she must be learning quickly as she's also got Will Hopoate and Todd Carney's cases to look after.
 
@innsaneink said:
All this club does half well is produce juniors… We buy cheap average coaches... Buy cast off unwanted players... Our membership is average... Home ground situation average
We will never be a Broncos, Roosters etc

It doesnt matter who i am. Thats not important. Im sure we can all agree on this moot point.
I have temporarily left the Wests Tigers organization due to business commitments.
In answer to the thread - the writing was on the wall when JT was hired. In fact if you look back at the history on this forum i started a thread on JT when there was a rumour he was going to be our coach - my thoughts were known then.
Who can forget the SCG debacle in 1997 and our current coach. It was soon after that i relinquished anything to do with JT.
And to answer you Insane Ink - you better believe one day we WILL be a Broncos and Roosters. Rest assured.
I will not comment on Robbie Farah for personal reasons nor will I comment on Marty Tapau - good luck to both of them.

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Make the top 8, I will still follow wests-tigers.
Not make the top 8, I will still follow wests-tigers.

The biggest problem I see, is how to manage all the different personalities.
Put ego's aside, all have a common goal, and focus on achieving this.
Sometimes you need to compromise for the benefit of success.
Whether this comes from the coaching staff, the playing group, or the board.

Until this happens, wests tigers will be like a push bike with flat tyres, and a rusty chain that has frozen links, trying to go ride uphill.
 
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