Why do you bother Ivan, Why??.

Regardless of the arguments around releases and mid season signings and the potential outcomes, for every week Moses continues to be selected in first grade, Ivan and the tigers are losing the fans goodwill.

Moses has been absolute garbage since he announced he was leaving and for those saying they have written off this season, it should not be a write-off, but and investment in the future.

There is no future in keeping Mitch in the team and at the moment there is no current benefit. Make him play reserve grade.
 
Rothfield on twitter has been over the top with anti Cleary/Tigers stuff

This one from last night …

Not s***ing on Ivan - but he shouldn't tell players one thing and then backflip - he needs someone like Gus to hold his hand in a crisis

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How juvenile is that last snipe ? This from a senior journalist at the DT .
The guy has lost the plot .
 
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They were just complaining that Cleary won't speak to them directly ….. instead he apparently responds to their question via texts.

I reckon they are lucky that he responds at all after all the crap they pour on WT and lately on the coach.

Whole panel (Rothfield, Kent and Ikin) was at him for telling Mitch he will be released and then playing him against Souths.

The only one saying Cleary told him it was his last training session was Mitch….sorry after hearing what he said to Uncle Benny last night wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him

If it is written, then it is real and not open to the familiar he said, she said crap that has been ongoing. Pretty sure he would be telling them basically the same thing face to face anyhow.
 
NRL 360 needs to be reported for Team Abuse! Having that totally corrupt Phil Rothfield on the show is disgusting. His sole purpose is to destroy every team other than his own favourite team Cronulla. His strategy is to hit from the lowest to the top. He is a c u n t!
 
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Rothfield on twitter has been over the top with anti Cleary/Tigers stuff

This one from last night …

Not s***ing on Ivan - but he shouldn't tell players one thing and then backflip - he needs someone like Gus to hold his hand in a crisis

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How juvenile is that last snipe ? This from a senior journalist at the DT .
The guy has lost the plot .

This is unbelievable. These so called journalists just make stuff up. It's a joke.

I don't read the Telegraph or watch Fox and this is why. I think journalists should be giving it to the players now. Sterlo commented on Moses and if anything he held back.
 
If you have text messages, substantiate your claim and detail the content.

Other than that, STHU and sit down.

The sooner that old bastards liver packs it in the better. Why can't Heyson organise a bad line for him next time he's at Stiletto's?
 
I hope its just water off a ducks back for Ivan.

These guys are not reporters they are gossip columnists at best.
 
Rothfield embarrassed himself last night. Wanted Dce penalised for a dive against broncos, when clearly he was infringed upon and was diving to ensure refs didn't miss it….exact same as Gallen situation and rothfield stance was the complete opposite. Has no credibility and a very small brain.
 
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If you have text messages, substantiate your claim and detail the content.

Other than that, STHU and sit down.

The sooner that old bastards liver packs it in the better. Why can't Heyson organise a bad line for him next time he's at Stiletto's?

You can't kill your best customer, what's wrong with you!?
 
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Rothfield embarrassed himself last night. Wanted Dce penalised for a dive against broncos, when clearly he was infringed upon and was diving to ensure refs didn't miss it….exact same as Gallen situation and rothfield stance was the complete opposite. Has no credibility and a very small brain.

It was golden watching him try to explain how that was worse than Gallen's flop. Gallen could kill his kids and he'd look the other way.
 
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Rothfield on twitter has been over the top with anti Cleary/Tigers stuff

This one from last night …

Not s***ing on Ivan - but he shouldn't tell players one thing and then backflip - he needs someone like Gus to hold his hand in a crisis

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How juvenile is that last snipe ? This from a senior journalist at the DT .
The guy has lost the plot .

Surprised Rothfield doesn't recommend Hayson to hold his hand
 
Good to see the old "Worlds is against us syndrome", is alive and well.
And of course, we all know that Every Ref in the world is against us as well
 
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Good to see the old "Worlds is against us syndrome", is alive and well.
And of course, we all know that Every Ref in the world is against us as well

Ignore the troll fellas
 
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Good to see the old "Worlds is against us syndrome", is alive and well.
And of course, we all know that Every Ref in the world is against us as well

Ignore the troll fellas

Have you ever wondered Ink, why you classify anyone who doesn't fall into line with your opinion as a Troll.? Seems a bit strange.
 
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Good to see the old "Worlds is against us syndrome", is alive and well.
And of course, we all know that Every Ref in the world is against us as well

Ignore the troll fellas

Have you ever wondered Ink, why you classify anyone who doesn't fall into line with your opinion as a Troll.? Seems a bit strange.

I don't want to become embroiled in this, so it's just my observation that you do seem to play the devil's advocate on most topics. Does that make you a troll? Some would say yes.
 
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Good to see the old "Worlds is against us syndrome", is alive and well.
And of course, we all know that Every Ref in the world is against us as well

Ignore the troll fellas

Have you ever wondered Ink, why you classify anyone who doesn't fall into line with your opinion as a Troll.? Seems a bit strange.

I don't want to become embroiled in this, so it's just my observation that you do seem to play the devil's advocate on most topics. Does that make you a troll? Some would say yes.

He just hates the club. Still can't move on from Farah's treatment. Does that make him a troll? Up to the individual i guess.
 
excuse me if this has already been posted elsewhere on the forum….
but there has been some in the media that have a more balanced view on the current situation at the Wts..
Sterlo, Gould, Girdler , Fittler ..ect

Wests Tigers five-eighth Mitchell Moses has let fans down by jumping ship to Parramatta
By Phil Gould
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Mitchell Moses (l) and Phil Gould.
Wests Tigers five-eighth Mitchell Moses has let the fans down after jumping ship to Parramatta mid-season. (AAP)

However, there is light at the end of the tunnel.

I am looking at the recruitment announcements over recent weeks since new coach Ivan Cleary was appointed at the club. I can see a new team building already.

Before I get to that though, just a quick comment on the transfer of 5/8 Mitchell Moses to the Parramatta Eels this week.

This is a disappointing result for all concerned. I don’t buy into the notion that Mitchell should be so distracted by his contract situation that he could not perform for his current employers. There have been plenty of examples over the years where players have signed with rival clubs, sometimes 12 months or more before their current contract expires, yet they have been able to continue playing and giving 100% effort to their current club.

I see absolutely no reason, why Mitchell Moses, as a professional sportsperson, should not have been expected, and willing, to fulfil his duties under the current contract for season 2017.

I feel most sorry for the fans who looked forward to this year with great anticipation. The club plans its season, especially around sponsorship, membership, and marketing, very reliant on the playing roster they have available to them for the 12-month period. There are many of Mitchell Moses’ teammates whose own personal careers and performances would have relied heavily on playing with a player of Mitchell’s talent. All this has now been thrown into disarray because Mitchell wants to head off and start his new contract with another club as soon as possible.

If that’s his attitude, then quite frankly the team, and the club, is better off without the distraction.

On to the future.

New coach Ivan Cleary has been very busy in the marketplace. Already the club has secured the services of experienced, representative-class players like Josh Reynolds, Ben Matulino, Russell Packer and Chris McQueen. My mail is that there will be more announcements this week on another two signings from rival clubs.

In some respects, it looks like Cleary is “putting the band back together” with his recruitment of Matulino and Packer. These two big boys were a major part of Cleary’s 2011 Grand Final team at the New Zealand Warriors. They now join former Warriors’ teammate Elijah Taylor at the West Tigers. I suggest it may not be the last player the Tigers recruit from across the Tasman.
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Warriors prop Ben Matulino will join Wests Tigers in 2018 and add some much-needed grunt up front. (AAP)

I really like the signing of Josh Reynolds. He will be so good for the Tigers. His experience and competitive nature will complement young half-back Luke Brooks perfectly. His enthusiasm, spirit and courage are infectious. He will have a positive influence on his new teammates. This guy is a real winner.

I have always been a fan of Chris McQueen. He is a very tough player. He plays with great passion. As a former winger, he provides great mobility playing in the forward pack. He has given great service to both South Sydney and the Gold Coast Titans. I think this is a tremendous acquisition.

The hardest player to replace will be fullback James Tedesco. There is no player quite like him anywhere in the NRL. Proven fullbacks are also very expensive. I’m not sure how much room the Tigers have left in their salary cap after their recent buying spree, but it would seem more likely they will need to search for a youngster who is on the way up, and patiently develop him in this key position.

The Tigers currently have two outstanding young outside backs in the shape of David Nofoaluma and Moses Suli. These kids are tremendous athletes. I love watching them play.
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Wests Tigers rookie Moses Suli has emerged as a genuine talent at the club this season. (AAP)

All in all, I can see a really competitive team building here. Despite the pain the fans have had to endure in recent times, I have no doubt there will be better days ahead.

One also hopes that the Wests Tigers club has learned a real lesson from the events of the last 18 months. Their aim should be that the club should never have to go through this pain again.

In the meantime, let’s hope the boys rally together and put some good football on the field for the remainder of the 2017 season. The fans deserve it. They need to cheer for someone.
 
It seems there is a disconnect between the ex players reporting and commenting on the events and those of journalists.
Im amazed by the way Crawley, Ritchie, Kent, Ikin and Rothfield view what has happened. They have close to a 180 degree opposite view to us on here. I listen to their explanations and just laugh. The players were not hard done by receiving deadlines. Their procrastinations were costing the club the opportunity to sign alternate players should they have decided to reject the offers. I think its extremely possible that without the deadlines a decision would still be pending on all of them, whilst the pool of talent to chase as replacements continually dwindles.
 

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