Winger for Round 1?

[Cultured_Bogan]

Would like to see:

1\. McKinnon
2\. Tuqiri
3\. Ayshford
4\. Lawrence
5\. Brown

Will probably see:

1\. McKinnon
2\. Tuqiri
3\. Ayshford
4\. Lawrence
5\. Ryan

 

[Tommy Magpie]

Brown deserves first crack. End of story.

 

[mtd]

lawrence on the wing, marshall in the centres and moltzen to five eight.

That's a candidate for most ridiculous comment of the year. :crazy

you might be able to moderate but clearly have no idea about the game and progression of players. where did lockyer start and end up? lots of players move around positions throughought there careers.

so instead of having a quality player on the bench in moltzen, with this combination we'd have all quality players running around.

lawrence has been solid in defence in the centres, and would continue to defend there. he would score 25+ tries playing on the wing
marshall is a gun player with a gun step. he'd tear them apart out wide (more so than he does now) and he would link with lawrence. the combination is mouth watering.
moltzen would then start in the halves with lui.

its not as 'out there' as you all think. it's just different to what we currently have, and have played with for the past 5 years.

 

[batboy]

Mtd… Mate, i'm not disagreeing... But I'd LOVE to see Moltz taking some minutes from Benji and the Robbies.. Why not go into the finals With 4 Healthy, Fresh play Makers... Rotate them throughout the year... We already have a 6-7-9 Rotation at the moment... Throw a fresh set of legs in there I reckon!!

 

[happy_tiger]

1\. Ryan
2\. Brown
3\. Utai

that will be the order sheens wants…...will simply depend on who is fit

Ryan is out at least til round 2 groin issue Payten round 3 It has to be Brown

 

[Guest]

lawrence on the wing, marshall in the centres and moltzen to five eight.

That's a candidate for most ridiculous comment of the year. :crazy

you might be able to moderate but clearly have no idea about the game and progression of players. where did lockyer start and end up? lots of players move around positions throughought there careers.

so instead of having a quality player on the bench in moltzen, with this combination we'd have all quality players running around.

lawrence has been solid in defence in the centres, and would continue to defend there. he would score 25+ tries playing on the wing
marshall is a gun player with a gun step. he'd tear them apart out wide (more so than he does now) and he would link with lawrence. the combination is mouth watering.
moltzen would then start in the halves with lui.

its not as 'out there' as you all think. it's just different to what we currently have, and have played with for the past 5 years.

Lawrence progressed from the wing to the centres, to the point where he represented Australia last year in the centres. And you reckon I have no idea :roll

And why you would move the world's best 5/8 to the centres is also equally ludicrous. Did you watch Moltzen against the Roosters? He was clearly short of a run and confidence and will take some time to get back to his best. Starting him at 5/8 over the world's best player just ain't gonna happen. The Marshall/Lui combination is working well and Lawrence and Tuqiri form a more than formidable left side attacking combination and Sheens is not going to change this unless injury strikes.

 

[happy_tiger]

lawrence on the wing, marshall in the centres and moltzen to five eight.

That's a candidate for most ridiculous comment of the year. :crazy

you might be able to moderate but clearly have no idea about the game and progression of players. where did lockyer start and end up? lots of players move around positions throughought there careers.

so instead of having a quality player on the bench in moltzen, with this combination we'd have all quality players running around.

lawrence has been solid in defence in the centres, and would continue to defend there. he would score 25+ tries playing on the wing
marshall is a gun player with a gun step. he'd tear them apart out wide (more so than he does now) and he would link with lawrence. the combination is mouth watering.
moltzen would then start in the halves with lui.

its not as 'out there' as you all think. it's just different to what we currently have, and have played with for the past 5 years.

Lawrence progressed from the wing to the centres, to the point where he represented Australia last year in the centres. And you reckon I have no idea :roll

And why you would move the world's best 5/8 to the centres is also equally ludicrous. Did you watch Moltzen against the Roosters? He was clearly short of a run and confidence and will take some time to get back to his best. Starting him at 5/8 over the world's best player just ain't gonna happen. The Marshall/Lui combination is working well and Lawrence and Tuqiri form a more than formidable left side attacking combination and Sheens is not going to change this unless injury strikes.

Marshall already links with Lawrence we are talking about NRL are we??? Because the games you watch and i watch are completely different

 

[mtd]

lawrence on the wing, marshall in the centres and moltzen to five eight.

That's a candidate for most ridiculous comment of the year. :crazy

you might be able to moderate but clearly have no idea about the game and progression of players. where did lockyer start and end up? lots of players move around positions throughought there careers.

so instead of having a quality player on the bench in moltzen, with this combination we'd have all quality players running around.

lawrence has been solid in defence in the centres, and would continue to defend there. he would score 25+ tries playing on the wing
marshall is a gun player with a gun step. he'd tear them apart out wide (more so than he does now) and he would link with lawrence. the combination is mouth watering.
moltzen would then start in the halves with lui.

its not as 'out there' as you all think. it's just different to what we currently have, and have played with for the past 5 years.

Lawrence progressed from the wing to the centres, to the point where he represented Australia last year in the centres. And you reckon I have no idea :roll

And why you would move the world's best 5/8 to the centres is also equally ludicrous. Did you watch Moltzen against the Roosters? He was clearly short of a run and confidence and will take some time to get back to his best. Starting him at 5/8 over the world's best player just ain't gonna happen. The Marshall/Lui combination is working well and Lawrence and Tuqiri form a more than formidable left side attacking combination and Sheens is not going to change this unless injury strikes.

yes u have no idea..
lawrence cant even get a run for nsw… its only sheens was coaching he was looked at for australia, even then, he didnt play in important games.

moltzen may be short on game time, but how else is he going to increase this game time - BY PLAYING HIM!

marshall isnt the worlds best player. he's the worlds fanciest player. he can be just as fancy in the centres. his kicking game is consistent by any means.

bat boy - i hear what your saying, but to me, rotating your halves never works. you need guys in there for the full 80 minutes. we shouldn't be replacing any of them, otherwise we shoulda held on to isaac de gois to rotate for farah.

 

[sunshine_coast_tiger]

lawrence on the wing, marshall in the centres and moltzen to five eight.

That's a candidate for most ridiculous comment of the year. :crazy

you might be able to moderate but clearly have no idea about the game and progression of players. where did lockyer start and end up? lots of players move around positions throughought there careers.

so instead of having a quality player on the bench in moltzen, with this combination we'd have all quality players running around.

lawrence has been solid in defence in the centres, and would continue to defend there. he would score 25+ tries playing on the wing
marshall is a gun player with a gun step. he'd tear them apart out wide (more so than he does now) and he would link with lawrence. the combination is mouth watering.
moltzen would then start in the halves with lui.

its not as 'out there' as you all think. it's just different to what we currently have, and have played with for the past 5 years.

Lawrence is the best centre in the NRL. He hits a gap like few others and is great at setting up his outside man. He would be wasted on the wing. It is no coincidence that the person playing outside him scores plenty of tries.

Give Brown the wing spot or some lower grade winger (we have some good ones from what I have seen). Just keep Ryan and Utai out of the side.

Lui and Marshall are our best halves. For mine Moltzen will be our bench utility player ( I would still rather have a bench of 4 forwards).

 

[happy_tiger]

MTD don't blame Lawrence for not getting picked for NSW blame the idiot selectors . As a recovering acl reconstruction person myself i think the last thing you would want to do is expect Tim Moltzen to play 80 minutes in only his 2nd clash back . Marshall is the best five eight at club and thats where he should play . It will also give Rob Lui confidence to play beside person he has played with for most of last season and create combinations we already set in play . Why would you want to change things we went within a point of making grand final with no Moltzen ,Payton etc and if we win that game we win premiership in my eyes .

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

That's a candidate for most ridiculous comment of the year. :crazy

you might be able to moderate but clearly have no idea about the game and progression of players. where did lockyer start and end up? lots of players move around positions throughought there careers.

so instead of having a quality player on the bench in moltzen, with this combination we'd have all quality players running around.

lawrence has been solid in defence in the centres, and would continue to defend there. he would score 25+ tries playing on the wing
marshall is a gun player with a gun step. he'd tear them apart out wide (more so than he does now) and he would link with lawrence. the combination is mouth watering.
moltzen would then start in the halves with lui.

its not as 'out there' as you all think. it's just different to what we currently have, and have played with for the past 5 years.

Lawrence progressed from the wing to the centres, to the point where he represented Australia last year in the centres. And you reckon I have no idea :roll

And why you would move the world's best 5/8 to the centres is also equally ludicrous. Did you watch Moltzen against the Roosters? He was clearly short of a run and confidence and will take some time to get back to his best. Starting him at 5/8 over the world's best player just ain't gonna happen. The Marshall/Lui combination is working well and Lawrence and Tuqiri form a more than formidable left side attacking combination and Sheens is not going to change this unless injury strikes.

yes u have no idea..
lawrence cant even get a run for nsw… its only sheens was coaching he was looked at for australia, even then, he didnt play in important games.

moltzen may be short on game time, but how else is he going to increase this game time - BY PLAYING HIM!

marshall isnt the worlds best player. he's the worlds fanciest player. he can be just as fancy in the centres. his kicking game is consistent by any means.

bat boy - i hear what your saying, but to me, rotating your halves never works. you need guys in there for the full 80 minutes. we shouldn't be replacing any of them, otherwise we shoulda held on to isaac de gois to rotate for farah.

:wtf

Lawrence has been overlooked for NSW selection thanks to the incompetence of the Blues selectors…

He would have been a walk up start but the likes of Messrs Daley and Fulton thought it'd be better to select injury prone pillows like Matt Cooper or the likes of Beau Scott who are defensive "specialists" and with the ball have about as much penetration as a blowfly's old fella... Lawrence is the Blues' answer to Greg Inglis.

Marshall is the world's best player. He was instrumental in the Kiwis winning the four nations and the Tigers finals appearances. Not to mention he is the Golden Boot winner for 2010... Enough said.

 

[Guest]

That's a candidate for most ridiculous comment of the year. :crazy

you might be able to moderate but clearly have no idea about the game and progression of players. where did lockyer start and end up? lots of players move around positions throughought there careers.

so instead of having a quality player on the bench in moltzen, with this combination we'd have all quality players running around.

lawrence has been solid in defence in the centres, and would continue to defend there. he would score 25+ tries playing on the wing
marshall is a gun player with a gun step. he'd tear them apart out wide (more so than he does now) and he would link with lawrence. the combination is mouth watering.
moltzen would then start in the halves with lui.

its not as 'out there' as you all think. it's just different to what we currently have, and have played with for the past 5 years.

Lawrence progressed from the wing to the centres, to the point where he represented Australia last year in the centres. And you reckon I have no idea :roll

And why you would move the world's best 5/8 to the centres is also equally ludicrous. Did you watch Moltzen against the Roosters? He was clearly short of a run and confidence and will take some time to get back to his best. Starting him at 5/8 over the world's best player just ain't gonna happen. The Marshall/Lui combination is working well and Lawrence and Tuqiri form a more than formidable left side attacking combination and Sheens is not going to change this unless injury strikes.

yes u have no idea..
lawrence cant even get a run for nsw… its only sheens was coaching he was looked at for australia, even then, he didnt play in important games.

moltzen may be short on game time, but how else is he going to increase this game time - BY PLAYING HIM!

marshall isnt the worlds best player. he's the worlds fanciest player. he can be just as fancy in the centres. his kicking game is consistent by any means.

bat boy - i hear what your saying, but to me, rotating your halves never works. you need guys in there for the full 80 minutes. we shouldn't be replacing any of them, otherwise we shoulda held on to isaac de gois to rotate for farah.

Lawrence has been injured the last 2 years running when SOO has been played. You're clearly delusional - There is no way Sheens will move the world's best 5/8 to the centres to accomodate Moltzen. And hypothetically, what wing do you play Lawrence on and what side do you play Marshall? The Tigers already have the most potent left side attack in the comp with Marshall chiming in with Lawrence and Tuqiri. You really think Sheens would mess with that? I think not. Benji will never be a centre, his ball skills and ability to set up tries and linebreaks will ensure he remains in the halves.

 

[Goose]

That's a candidate for most ridiculous comment of the year. :crazy

you might be able to moderate but clearly have no idea about the game and progression of players. where did lockyer start and end up? lots of players move around positions throughought there careers.

so instead of having a quality player on the bench in moltzen, with this combination we'd have all quality players running around.

lawrence has been solid in defence in the centres, and would continue to defend there. he would score 25+ tries playing on the wing
marshall is a gun player with a gun step. he'd tear them apart out wide (more so than he does now) and he would link with lawrence. the combination is mouth watering.
moltzen would then start in the halves with lui.

its not as 'out there' as you all think. it's just different to what we currently have, and have played with for the past 5 years.

Lawrence progressed from the wing to the centres, to the point where he represented Australia last year in the centres. And you reckon I have no idea :roll

And why you would move the world's best 5/8 to the centres is also equally ludicrous. Did you watch Moltzen against the Roosters? He was clearly short of a run and confidence and will take some time to get back to his best. Starting him at 5/8 over the world's best player just ain't gonna happen. The Marshall/Lui combination is working well and Lawrence and Tuqiri form a more than formidable left side attacking combination and Sheens is not going to change this unless injury strikes.

yes u have no idea..
lawrence cant even get a run for nsw… its only sheens was coaching he was looked at for australia, even then, he didnt play in important games.

moltzen may be short on game time, but how else is he going to increase this game time - BY PLAYING HIM!

marshall isnt the worlds best player. he's the worlds fanciest player. he can be just as fancy in the centres. his kicking game is consistent by any means.

bat boy - i hear what your saying, but to me, rotating your halves never works. you need guys in there for the full 80 minutes. we shouldn't be replacing any of them, otherwise we shoulda held on to isaac de gois to rotate for farah.

WOW…...is this a gee up. Moving Marshall to centre, and lawrence to wing, means both players get to do less at what they are good at.
Lawrence is fantastic at centre, and is very good at setting up his outside man (even know he missed his a pass more than he should have last year)
Marshall may or may not be the best player in the world, but he is an amazing five eight, who gets to first receiver so often that he is clearly the chief playmaker. He cant do that from centre.

I love Moltzen, and he is massively up there with favourite players, i wont be advocating moving benji to accomodate him.

Think he;ll start on the bench, but i'd love to see him start anywhere in the 17\. I

as for the wing spot, i think we'll see brown get it this week and ryan come in when fit

 

[mtd]

lawrence isnt the best centre, he's one of the best defensively, but he still has alot to do to be the best centre. his form offensively has been non existent (with the exception of the rare glimpse of brilliance). putting him on the wing gives him more ball, whilst he can still defend in the centres.

marshall isnt even the best five eight for the team, moltzen is 10x the five eight marshall is. its only that marshall's profile and razzle dazzle fools people of his real role as a five eight. dont get me wrong, he's awesome. its just motlzen is better.

 

[tomcat]

I agree but not sure about Moltzen being 10 x the five eighth Marshall is.

 

[Guest]

lawrence isnt the best centre, he's one of the best defensively, but he still has alot to do to be the best centre. his form offensively has been non existent (with the exception of the rare glimpse of brilliance). putting him on the wing gives him more ball, whilst he can still defend in the centres.

marshall isnt even the best five eight for the team, moltzen is 10x the five eight marshall is. its only that marshall's profile and razzle dazzle fools people of his real role as a five eight. dont get me wrong, he's awesome. its just motlzen is better.

Still trying to comprehend how you managed to come up with that call. Marshall is by far and away the best 5/8 the Tigers have. How you think he'll be a better centre by being moved further away from the action I will never know. Marshall led the comp last year for try assists and was right up there in linebreak assists. How many do you think he'll set up by playing one position in from the wing?

There's no doubt Moltzen is a good player, but putting him at 5/8 over Benji…That ain't gonna happen. Moltzen said himself he was warming to the halfback position last year before his injury.

Thank god Sheens selects the team.

 

[mtd]

I agree but not sure about Moltzen being 10 x the five eighth Marshall is.

ok 10x was an exaggeration to stir some, but i believe he is a better all round 5/8.

 

[happy_tiger]

lawrence isnt the best centre, he's one of the best defensively, but he still has alot to do to be the best centre. his form offensively has been non existent (with the exception of the rare glimpse of brilliance). putting him on the wing gives him more ball, whilst he can still defend in the centres.

marshall isnt even the best five eight for the team, moltzen is 10x the five eight marshall is. its only that marshall's profile and razzle dazzle fools people of his real role as a five eight. dont get me wrong, he's awesome. its just motlzen is better.

Ten times better at five eight I have a question how many NRL games has Moltzen played at five eight . Moltzen is a good player , don't get me wrong ,but I don't think there has been a footballer in all of rugby league history that is or has been ten times better than Benji Marshall . Moltzen will be a halfback or fullback in this side at some stage and Lawrence is in top 4 centres in game both in defense or attack he is one of the best hole runners My only issue with Chris is since he put some bulk on he lost an ounce of off the mark speed but that has to be expected Once he gets to top speed not to many can run him down

 

[Goose]

lawrence isnt the best centre, he's one of the best defensively, but he still has alot to do to be the best centre. his form offensively has been non existent (with the exception of the rare glimpse of brilliance). putting him on the wing gives him more ball, whilst he can still defend in the centres.

marshall isnt even the best five eight for the team, moltzen is 10x the five eight marshall is. its only that marshall's profile and razzle dazzle fools people of his real role as a five eight. dont get me wrong, he's awesome. its just motlzen is better.

i thought i was moltzen's biggest fan, i stand corrected, 10x better than marshall, as i said i love the bloke but please…..

and lawrence being non existent in attack, i cant disagree more strongly, he put lote away so many times, not t mention his hole running ability. Lawrence is a class player, i think he is a rep player, but concede this may be debatable

Marshall is a very good player, and officially the best player in the world, he did all that with 6 on his back, he is a champion.

 

[mtd]

willow, i can't quote ur last post so i just goto start fresh.

**Marshall is by far and away the best 5/8 the Tigers have.**
How so? Explain what areas marshall is better than moltzen. The fact is, he's only better with the razzle dazzle. Everything else, moltzen is better.

**How you think he'll be a better centre by being moved further away from the action I will never know.**
At present, he has the whole defensive line to take on, plus the responsibility of running the team - there's less opportunity for him to do his thing, because the team comes first. If he was in the centres, he'd have 2 people to take on, and be in more 1 on 1 situations. He would break through the line alot more. To add to this, he'd have an absolute machine outside him in chris lawrence. The combination would literally destroy the last great centre/wing combination being gidley and tahu. Meanwhile, we are losing nothing in the halves.

**Marshall led the comp last year for try assists and was right up there in linebreak assists. How many do you think he'll set up by playing one position in from the wing?**
He'll set up tries from centre, but primarily for his winger. Sure, it wont be as many, but the actual amount of tries he scores himself will be double.

**There's no doubt Moltzen is a good player, but putting him at 5/8 over Benji…That ain't gonna happen. Moltzen said himself he was warming to the halfback position last year before his injury.**
If your moltzen, are you really going to claim that you are better than benji? Are you really going to cause that tension between the team members? Ofcourse not. You only have to look at the first few games moltzen played in the halves for us, he destroyed it. We haven't lost 1 game with Moltzen in the halves. He's a natural that's played league all his life. Put him in there and he'll take to it in a week or two, if not straight away.

**Thank god Sheens selects the team.**
so a year or two ago you weren't complaining about sheens's team selections at all? when no rookies had a crack?