Woods may have stayed if Ivan had come earlier

If Woods does end up staying at Tigers, as unlikely as it is, the positive for all parties would be that the rationale is easily digested - salary cap burden due to over-investment by Canterbury. Dogs can blame the NRL for taking so long to finalise the 2018 cap, NRL can push back that Dogs really shouldn't have spent in advance of the final number, Woods can say he wanted to go to Canterbury but understands their new salary cap burdens, and Woods can also say he's pleased to stay at Tigers due to his developing strong relationship with the new coach (who had barely started when he decided to leave).

Everyone can spin it for a week and there'd be minimal controversy, most Dogs fans would be alright that he doesn't come and most Tigers fans would take Woods back, because he has partially redeemed himself for a lot of Tigers fans.

And hopefully for Tigers, if Woods comes back, we are in a stronger bargaining position and don't have to outlay the same stupid coin he was originally after.
 
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I think I understand why woods left. He was thrown the captaincy in a club in absolute turmoil with off field player issues, coaching issues, board issues, on field performance issues and very little support (I don't think there is any footy nous on our board) He had to front the media to defend indefensible decisions. He is not a born leader and not media savvy but he is showing plenty of leadership on field for mine.

I liken it a trunps media spokesperson…..it's a revolving door.
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Spot on. People need to get over the fact that Woods acted chaotic when in a chaotic situation. Yes he is NOT captain material, he is Prop material. Did you see him looking at the media with an expression like "WTF am I doing here?". Taylor never caught onto it that this guy was not captain material and could not handle the role.

People say his attitude was bad. It isn't that bad. If my bread and butter depended on consistency from the West Tigers, I would leave. Yea, club vs family and paying the mortgage…. see you later.

Now that we have shown Woods were we are going and he wants to stay. Get the guy back on board and let him romp home.
 
It's pretty ordinary from the NRL not to have next years cap organised.
Then again it will most probably play right into our hands, if some clubs have to have a fire sale.
I just wish someone would blow the whistle on the Roosters, even though they might end up at the bottom Sydney harbour.
 
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The dogs' cap issue could mean that Reynolds flips on his Wests deal.

If only the Roosters had a salary cap…
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Yea, the Roarters have done it sweet. Sure they have lost players, but they aim it like a culling of their less then able. In fairness to Trent Robertson he has done fantastically as a coach, hats off.

The NRL needs to be brought to heal and investigate these clubs. Would be happy for our coaches and board to be fined for calling out the blatant cheats for who they are (even if it meant a few $10,000 fines. Hopefully a few in the media could run with it).
 
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I think I understand why woods left. He was thrown the captaincy in a club in absolute turmoil with off field player issues, coaching issues, board issues, on field performance issues and very little support (I don't think there is any footy nous on our board) He had to front the media to defend indefensible decisions. He is not a born leader and not media savvy but he is showing plenty of leadership on field for mine.

I liken it a trunps media spokesperson…..it's a revolving door.

Spot on. People need to get over the fact that Woods acted chaotic when in a chaotic situation. Yes he is NOT captain material, he is Prop material. Did you see him looking at the media with an expression like "WTF am I doing here?". Taylor never caught onto it that this guy was not captain material and could not handle the role.

People say his attitude was bad. It isn't that bad. If my bread and butter depended on consistency from the West Tigers, I would leave. Yea, club vs family and paying the mortgage…. see you later.

Now that we have shown Woods were we are going and he wants to stay. Get the guy back on board and let him romp home.
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You don't need to be media saavy to be a good leader. Woods is a good prop and an excellent one when he wants to be, but he can not for the life of him, lead a team on and off the field. He's better served just playing his game and allowing someone else to take control.
 
In defence of Woods, the post match press conferences are completely different with Cleary sitting next to him. Cleary engages the press and they respond positively to him, easing the pressure on Woods. JT could hardly be accused of engaging as well as Cleary with the press.
 
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The dogs' cap issue could mean that Reynolds flips on his Wests deal.

If only the Roosters had a salary cap…

How can Grub flip? He's signed and delivered.

Anything is possible if both parties agree.
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dogs are over the cap, have to release players to get under, not sign more
 
He treated the club with total disrespect . He knew the club had moved mountains to keep him moses & teddy & in that process we let players go that are now stars at other clubs. It is galling. In the article he still says maybes & might have stayed etc.
Its a shame but we have moved on & a new bright era lies ahead. If I were on Wests board I would refuse to have dealings with any player using Isaac Moses as their manager.
 
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He treated the club with total disrespect . He knew the club had moved mountains to keep him moses & teddy & in that process we let players go that are now stars at other clubs. It is galling. In the article he still says maybes & might have stayed etc.
Its a shame but we have moved on & a new bright era lies ahead. If I were on Wests board I would refuse to have dealings with any player using Isaac Moses as their manager.
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Then I am glad you are not on The Tigers board.
 
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The dogs' cap issue could mean that Reynolds flips on his Wests deal.

If only the Roosters had a salary cap…

How can Grub flip? He's signed and delivered.

Anything is possible if both parties agree.
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The only way that happens is if they need to shift Foran or he wants out due to the Des situation, and the only way we would let that happen is if we were to get Foran. We wouldnt allow ourselves to be in that situation unless it was of benefit to us, the dogs are in stress not us.
 
The Warriors and WTs lost big name players to a wealthy club when that club knew it was well over the salary cap for the following season. It not only deprived these clubs of two good players, it also denied other less wealthy clubs such as the Warriors, Knights, Dragons and TItans the opportunity to improve their rosters (making the competition more even). It forced WTs to go into the market and by a big name players from the Warriors and Dragon
 
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The dogs' cap issue could mean that Reynolds flips on his Wests deal.

If only the Roosters had a salary cap…

How can Grub flip? He's signed and delivered.

Anything is possible if both parties agree.

Ah so you're saying we'll let him go back. Who goes to #6?
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Or who goes to #1 if Lolohea remains at 6\. A lot of things need to happen…but Reynolds has been quite clear he didn't want to leave the Dogs.
 
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The Warriors and WTs lost big name players to a wealthy club when that club knew it was well over the salary cap for the following season. It not only deprived these clubs of two good players, it also denied other less wealthy clubs such as the Warriors, Knights, Dragons and TItans the opportunity to improve their rosters (making the competition more even). It forced WTs to go into the market and by a big name players from the Warriors and Dragon
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It also arguably cost us Tedesco as he would have almost certainly stayed if Woods did imo.
 
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