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Magpie_Magic said:
It's why clubs don't often move Up the ladder to much these days .

When the maggies would get raided players would get often offered double yes double and blocks of 3 or 4 would go.

With the cap a club offers 20% more.....and unless the player is unhappy they stay at the incumbent. It's a real problem.

Development with 2 or 3 signings is all one can do these days.

Unless you have an edge like NZ or Brisbane or even Souths.
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What does that have anything to do with what was being discussed?
 
Magpie_Magic said:
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Won't have any instability thanks.
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We have been unstable since the JV started,it used to be claimed that the Balmain faction and the Magpie faction used to go in different directions.Well it is basically run by the Magpie faction ONLY these days and things not only have not improved in fact they seem to be worse (2 wooden spoons testifies to that).
The way the board does things has to change with more independants being the obvious solution afaic.I am fine with Wests Leagues still owning it but the board needs to change drastically
 
Magpie_Magic said:
Highlighting how difficult it is for club to entice a high profile recruit these days.

Thought we done pretty well lately with the few we signed.

But not enough.

Hard to offer an edge.
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Agree on that but it’s about strategy, commitment to that strategy (funds, ups/downs, teamwork, having each others backs etc) & having the right people to execute it.

I do think the process being undertaken on the juniors has been to date for the last few years has been very well managed (we cannot keep them all but we look to be keeping most and the good ones). We are promoting the kids through the grades and next few years will show us how well our development plans are truley working. The decade or so before that was diabolical.

To me it showed they were somewhat working to a strategy.

Recruitment wise We targeted forwards, we then targeted halves & now targeting backs. You can’t rebuild a full squad in 1-2yrs and get success it often takes a journey for long lasting and allow the next wave of talent to filter through with the experience.

Api, Papa, Klem & Bateman are mid-top quality.
Fainu was one of the best kids around
Sullivan is what I call a seesaw player at his age with his talent. Sezar is probably the best of the rest for what was available for 24 if we are being fair.

Our juniors are all untested and 90% kids don’t make it thats facts. Of the 10% half of those never player over 30 nrl games. So it will be very interesting over next 2-3yrs how successful our now heavy junior squad will form.
 
I've come up with 10 of our Chairman & CEO's worst decisions or involvements.

How they can continue in their roles makes the mind boggle. Some of these decisions are lacking due diligence, others lacking attention-to-detail, others lacking public/market awareness, others just plain stupid!

(May 2023) Appointing Scott Fulton without consulting the Head Coach & Head Coach-in-waiting.

(April 2023) Approving the club’s commemorative ANZAC jersey.

(August 2022) Approving the Wall of Fame at the new Centre of Excellence with mistake in Beni Marshall profile.

(July 2022) Appointing Tim Sheens as Head Coach following a lunch with News Corp journalists (from his position as Head Of Football).

(April 2021) Chairman presents the Tommy Raudonikis tribute jersey at Leichhardt Oval.

(January 2021) Chairman involvement in the signing of David Nofoaluma on a 4-year extension worth a reported $500,000 per year.

(November 2019) This is when Hangipantelis was appointed Chair with Pascoe as CEO. Over the following 4 seasons, our ladder position went 11th, 13th, 16th, 17th . In 4 years, they have appointed and sacked 2 coaches.

(March 2019) Allowing Justin Pascoe to return to his CEO role at the club after being deregistered for failing to disclose a lucrative ambassadorial role (for Farah).

(October 2018) The Ivan Cleary being released as head coach debacle.

(January 2017) Pascoe signing off on a deadline placed on Tedesco & Woods to extend.
 

CLAWS OUT AFTER TIGERS REVIEW

The Wests Tigers’ decision to rubberstamp a bid for Penrith star Jarome Luai may be the final act of the club’s embattled board.

The review into the governance at the Tigers has been completed and it is understood the Holman Barnes Group – including their representatives on the football club board – have been given a snapshot of the findings.

A full briefing for the Holman Barnes Group is imminent. The Tigers’ independent directors as well as the representatives of Wests and Balmain are yet to be afforded the same luxury and they may be forced to wait until next month to get a sense of what has been recommended by those responsible for the review – former NRL chief financial officer Tony Crawford and managing director of Cooperage Capital Pty Ltd, Gary Barnier.

There is a sense in some quarters that the board may be changed en masse as the club looks to modernise and broaden its level of expertise.

That would involve Holman Barnes directors voting for their own demise, but they would make a mockery of the review if they didn’t act on the recommendations.

Most interest centres on the future of chase Lee Hagipantelis, who is also the principal of the club’s major sponsor Bryden’s Lawyers.

Hagipantelis was interviewed as part of the review but could be removed if there are sweeping changes at board level.

Interestingly, he has no control over his own fate. Under the Tigers constitution, only the shareholders in the club are believed to hold the power over the appointment and removal of directors.

Hagipantelis was notably tight-lipped on the club’s chase of Luai when he appeared on radio station SEN on Friday morning prior to a golf day he had sponsored for The Leukaemia Foundation.

Coach Benji Marshall also played in the golf day at Twin Creeks but gave SEN a wide berth as he made his way in the clubhouse – Penrith director Greg Alexander was on-air at the time.
 
BlackWhiteGold said:

CLAWS OUT AFTER TIGERS REVIEW

The Wests Tigers’ decision to rubberstamp a bid for Penrith star Jarome Luai may be the final act of the club’s embattled board.

The review into the governance at the Tigers has been completed and it is understood the Holman Barnes Group – including their representatives on the football club board – have been given a snapshot of the findings.

A full briefing for the Holman Barnes Group is imminent. The Tigers’ independent directors as well as the representatives of Wests and Balmain are yet to be afforded the same luxury and they may be forced to wait until next month to get a sense of what has been recommended by those responsible for the review – former NRL chief financial officer Tony Crawford and managing director of Cooperage Capital Pty Ltd, Gary Barnier.

There is a sense in some quarters that the board may be changed en masse as the club looks to modernise and broaden its level of expertise.

That would involve Holman Barnes directors voting for their own demise, but they would make a mockery of the review if they didn’t act on the recommendations.

Most interest centres on the future of chase Lee Hagipantelis, who is also the principal of the club’s major sponsor Bryden’s Lawyers.

Hagipantelis was interviewed as part of the review but could be removed if there are sweeping changes at board level.

Interestingly, he has no control over his own fate. Under the Tigers constitution, only the shareholders in the club are believed to hold the power over the appointment and removal of directors.

Hagipantelis was notably tight-lipped on the club’s chase of Luai when he appeared on radio station SEN on Friday morning prior to a golf day he had sponsored for The Leukaemia Foundation.

Coach Benji Marshall also played in the golf day at Twin Creeks but gave SEN a wide berth as he made his way in the clubhouse – Penrith director Greg Alexander was on-air at the time.
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Sack the lot of them
 
cochise said:
Bennett, Ciraldo, Mitchell, Munster, Moses all within the last 5 years that were high profile, public, priority targets that we missed. They are just the publicly known ones. Imagine the misses we didn't publicise
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So, if there were misses we didn't publicize, maybe you can enlighten us as to who they were.
 
cochise said:
Hopefully people will make decisions on what is best for the club and not what is best for them individually.
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Ok...so if the people that make the decisions knowing full well that Balmain only owns a miniscule part of our club and therefore should only be entitled to a miniscule say in what happens in the near future, decide that our club would be better off without Balmain and unwanted appendages like back door benny, are you prepared to support that?
 
Mighty_Tiger said:
Agree on that but it’s about strategy, commitment to that strategy (funds, ups/downs, teamwork, having each others backs etc) & having the right people to execute it.

I do think the process being undertaken on the juniors has been to date for the last few years has been very well managed (we cannot keep them all but we look to be keeping most and the good ones). We are promoting the kids through the grades and next few years will show us how well our development plans are truley working. The decade or so before that was diabolical.

To me it showed they were somewhat working to a strategy.

Recruitment wise We targeted forwards, we then targeted halves & now targeting backs. You can’t rebuild a full squad in 1-2yrs and get success it often takes a journey for long lasting and allow the next wave of talent to filter through with the experience.

Api, Papa, Klem & Bateman are mid-top quality.
Fainu was one of the best kids around
Sullivan is what I call a seesaw player at his age with his talent. Sezar is probably the best of the rest for what was available for 24 if we are being fair.

Our juniors are all untested and 90% kids don’t make it thats facts. Of the 10% half of those never player over 30 nrl games. So it will be very interesting over next 2-3yrs how successful our now heavy junior squad will form.
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Seems like the first time Lee has kept his mouth shut for a very long time. Long may it continue....but i dont hold my breath as he loves the limelight unlike most of the other NRL chairmen. He does more damage with his public persona than he does good within the club.
 
BZN said:
Ok...so if the people that make the decisions knowing full well that Balmain only owns a miniscule part of our club and therefore should only be entitled to a miniscule say in what happens in the near future, decide that our club would be better off without Balmain and unwanted appendages like back door benny, are you prepared to support that?
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If that is the recommendations from the review then so be it. I am not fighting for the return of Balmain.
 
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