Your most unpopular opinion about league
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CocaCola
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100% with you.. Half the NRL teams wouldn't have anything to play for come mid-season.
FPP system works well in major Soccer leagues due to the depth of the sport and linkage between the leagues.
1\. With several divisions in the top leagues, avoiding relegation makes for fun times. Can you imagine the frustration of fans having to wait a decade just for their team to get back into the top division. At least WT's fans can hit the reset button every year no matter how poorly the previous year was.
2\. Even when the premiership is wrapped up, mid table+ teams still have play off spots for major tournaments to play for.
NRL is too shallow for that concept.
The_Patriot
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Brad Arthur
I dont get it
I dont get it
happy_tiger
Well-known member
Go back to benefit of the doubt with video refs
One month EPL style transfer period during SOO
Clubs need to tell fans know how much the total TPA's they spend every season
Any player with a HIA must automatically miss a week , but a 18th man can replace them
Almost forgot , NZ need their own version of SOO
One month EPL style transfer period during SOO
Clubs need to tell fans know how much the total TPA's they spend every season
Any player with a HIA must automatically miss a week , but a 18th man can replace them
Almost forgot , NZ need their own version of SOO
AL The Tiger
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I don't agree with this at all. He would be the first player I would take off the Bulldogs' hands if they ever even considered letting him go.
happy_tiger
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Bloody good idea Tacky :bulb:
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weststigersbob
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The absolute fallacy of “the faster the game, the better it is”.
Since the late 80’s/early 90’s, EVERY rule change and interpretation change has been for either a)ensuring the team in possession stays in possession and/or b)artificially speeding the game up.
The counter to this is that EVERY tactic that savvy coaches have come up with is to slow the game down.
What has happened therefore is that the game is played in a manner whereby players deliberately push the rules to the limit in some instances, openly break them in others simply to try and remain in the contest.
This has come about due to 2 primary drivers - coaches having a say on new rules (a fox in the henhouse if I’ve ever heard it, let alone the RL staple of self interest rules) and a general apathy from decision makers to make radical changes lest the ‘product’ suffers.
The ‘new’ rules of RL have seen the following things becoming the norm, which weren’t anywhere near as prevalent in the games halcyon days (which in my opinion were the 5 years between 1989-1993):
At least 30 ruck infringements a game. From strips, to drops, to holding down, to poor play the balls, to markers not being square, to players lying in the ruck etc etc etc.
How has this happened ? It’s because you have 1 side trying absolutely everything it can to speed the game up versus another trying absolutely everything it can to slow it down. And for the longest time, we have players actively ‘conning’ the referees every tackle now.
Think of it this way - Imagine you are lying on your front lawn, and you want to stand up. Is flopping around like a fish the best way of doing it ?
The there is ball control. Most 1st grade RL players could probably squeeze a footy until it bursts they are that strong and have such big hands. And yet, amazingly, 95% can’t hold onto a ball the second they feel a defender put his arm around it or a hand on it. It’s a con. But, speed and possession are paramount now - so it’s a penalty.
And I haven’t even mentioned wrestling nor the tackling techniques of the modern era.
It has a very easy (if for most, an unpalatable) fix.
1\. All one on one legs tackles are automatically dominant, and the tackler is entitled to get to marker before the attacker plays the ball.
2\. Tacklers who make initial contact with the hips or lower are entitled to retire to second marker (if secondary and subsequent tacklers assist the tackle)once the tackle is completed until the time the dummy half passes the ball and still be onside.
3\. The ball must be played by the attacker only once he has fully regained both feet and neither knee, hand nor the ball is touching the ground. After this, the current rules and interpretation are fine.
4\. Any player not making a natural action to regain their feet after being tackled is immediately penalised. The current rules regarding tacklers holding down are fine.
5\. The front marker must ensure he gives enough space for the attacker to play the ball on the mark, however the marker is allowed to ‘go’ once the ball touches the attackers foot in the play the ball.
That’s the ruck covered, now the rest.
6\. The stripping rule is completely abolished
7\. The ‘7 tackle set’ is completely abolished
8\. Interchange is abolished - 5 fresh players on the bench - 3 single replacements only, HIA’s and Reportable offences are excluded.
Yes, it’s radical, some would say ‘retrograde’, but the game needs to go backwards to start again, before it morphs to far in the direction of American football…..
Since the late 80’s/early 90’s, EVERY rule change and interpretation change has been for either a)ensuring the team in possession stays in possession and/or b)artificially speeding the game up.
The counter to this is that EVERY tactic that savvy coaches have come up with is to slow the game down.
What has happened therefore is that the game is played in a manner whereby players deliberately push the rules to the limit in some instances, openly break them in others simply to try and remain in the contest.
This has come about due to 2 primary drivers - coaches having a say on new rules (a fox in the henhouse if I’ve ever heard it, let alone the RL staple of self interest rules) and a general apathy from decision makers to make radical changes lest the ‘product’ suffers.
The ‘new’ rules of RL have seen the following things becoming the norm, which weren’t anywhere near as prevalent in the games halcyon days (which in my opinion were the 5 years between 1989-1993):
At least 30 ruck infringements a game. From strips, to drops, to holding down, to poor play the balls, to markers not being square, to players lying in the ruck etc etc etc.
How has this happened ? It’s because you have 1 side trying absolutely everything it can to speed the game up versus another trying absolutely everything it can to slow it down. And for the longest time, we have players actively ‘conning’ the referees every tackle now.
Think of it this way - Imagine you are lying on your front lawn, and you want to stand up. Is flopping around like a fish the best way of doing it ?
The there is ball control. Most 1st grade RL players could probably squeeze a footy until it bursts they are that strong and have such big hands. And yet, amazingly, 95% can’t hold onto a ball the second they feel a defender put his arm around it or a hand on it. It’s a con. But, speed and possession are paramount now - so it’s a penalty.
And I haven’t even mentioned wrestling nor the tackling techniques of the modern era.
It has a very easy (if for most, an unpalatable) fix.
1\. All one on one legs tackles are automatically dominant, and the tackler is entitled to get to marker before the attacker plays the ball.
2\. Tacklers who make initial contact with the hips or lower are entitled to retire to second marker (if secondary and subsequent tacklers assist the tackle)once the tackle is completed until the time the dummy half passes the ball and still be onside.
3\. The ball must be played by the attacker only once he has fully regained both feet and neither knee, hand nor the ball is touching the ground. After this, the current rules and interpretation are fine.
4\. Any player not making a natural action to regain their feet after being tackled is immediately penalised. The current rules regarding tacklers holding down are fine.
5\. The front marker must ensure he gives enough space for the attacker to play the ball on the mark, however the marker is allowed to ‘go’ once the ball touches the attackers foot in the play the ball.
That’s the ruck covered, now the rest.
6\. The stripping rule is completely abolished
7\. The ‘7 tackle set’ is completely abolished
8\. Interchange is abolished - 5 fresh players on the bench - 3 single replacements only, HIA’s and Reportable offences are excluded.
Yes, it’s radical, some would say ‘retrograde’, but the game needs to go backwards to start again, before it morphs to far in the direction of American football…..
jrtiger
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oh how the times have changed eh Phil :roll :roll
happy_tiger
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Grub to butterfly
Tiger_Watto
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Growing the game isnt about increasing fans… Its about increasing the corporate dollars into the game
Tiger_Watto
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NZ won a world cup and 2 tri/four nations and no one over their was smart enough to run a sausage sizzle to generate revenue into their local game.
They are an embarrassment and would probably expect the ARLC to come up with a SOO concept and run it for them.
Its time we cut them loose and put a greater focus into Fiji, Tonga & PNG.
Tiger_Watto
New member
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The NSWRL Competition still exists as ISP… I love getting down to my local games [granted its Q Cup] but its always good to watch football played by footballers compared to the NRL being all about athletes.
Grab a blanket and give it a go!
I disagree it went to crap when the peninsular Silvertail scum and the folk from the Shire entered..
Bring back Glebe..
Bring back Glebe..
Tiger_Watto
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and leather balls…
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