Your Nines Squad...

:frowning:

@supercoach said:
I would bite the bullet and pick the best available. Big money up for grabs and we need all the money we get our hands on. As for injuries, they can happen at training, at home anywhere. I also think it may give the club a lift. Okay it is a mickey mouse event, but give the sponsors and the fans a positive note to start the year

I agree.
It's a mickey mouse comp because the clubs generally don't send their stars. If all the big names went it would attract bigger crowds and more sponsors making it a bigger event. That would bring in more money for the clubs and players.
Rugby league bosses don't understand that they are in the entertainment business. its a very narrow minded sport.
 
@gallagher said:
:frowning:

@supercoach said:
I would bite the bullet and pick the best available. Big money up for grabs and we need all the money we get our hands on. As for injuries, they can happen at training, at home anywhere. I also think it may give the club a lift. Okay it is a mickey mouse event, but give the sponsors and the fans a positive note to start the year

I agree.
It's a mickey mouse comp because the clubs generally don't send their stars. If all the big names went it would attract bigger crowds and more sponsors making it a bigger event. That would bring in more money for the clubs and players.
Rugby league bosses don't understand that they are in the entertainment business. its a very narrow minded sport.

There is a limit to the amount first-grade players can play at top level without losing effectiveness or having too many of them get injured. Pre-season is all about getting players ready for the demands of a long, gruelling season ahead. It's narrow minded of fans to expect star players to be available to fulfill any whim of the scheduling calendar.

Personally I feel the nines is about as good a compromise as it can be. Coaches and most clubs would probably rather it didn't exist at all, the organisers and media would like more stars to take part. Players, I imagine, are largely indifferent. In the end we get a watered down comp which, after several months of no football, is just about diverting enough to keep some of us interested. That's about as good as it's going to get.
 
We need the treat this comp with some respect

This team needs learn how to win semis and finals , only way you can experience that is by doing it

Disagree with Taylor , take 100 % fit squad over and try and win the damn thing , confidence is an amazing thing

Remind me , what did we win a year before we won the 2005 premiership ….
 
@happy tiger said:
We need the treat this comp with some respect

This team needs learn how to win semis and finals , only way you can experience that is by doing it

Disagree with Taylor , take 100 % fit squad over and try and win the damn thing , confidence is an amazing thing

Remind me , what did we win a year before we won the 2005 premiership ….

A chook raffle?
 
@Balmain Boy said:
@happy tiger said:
We need the treat this comp with some respect

This team needs learn how to win semis and finals , only way you can experience that is by doing it

Disagree with Taylor , take 100 % fit squad over and try and win the damn thing , confidence is an amazing thing

Remind me , what did we win a year before we won the 2005 premiership ….

A chook raffle?

A meat tray?
 
@2041 said:
@gallagher said:
:frowning:

@supercoach said:
I would bite the bullet and pick the best available. Big money up for grabs and we need all the money we get our hands on. As for injuries, they can happen at training, at home anywhere. I also think it may give the club a lift. Okay it is a mickey mouse event, but give the sponsors and the fans a positive note to start the year

I agree.
It's a mickey mouse comp because the clubs generally don't send their stars. If all the big names went it would attract bigger crowds and more sponsors making it a bigger event. That would bring in more money for the clubs and players.
Rugby league bosses don't understand that they are in the entertainment business. its a very narrow minded sport.

There is a limit to the amount first-grade players can play at top level without losing effectiveness or having too many of them get injured. Pre-season is all about getting players ready for the demands of a long, gruelling season ahead. It's narrow minded of fans to expect star players to be available to fulfill any whim of the scheduling calendar.

Personally I feel the nines is about as good a compromise as it can be. Coaches and most clubs would probably rather it didn't exist at all, the organisers and media would like more stars to take part. Players, I imagine, are largely indifferent. In the end we get a watered down comp which, after several months of no football, is just about diverting enough to keep some of us interested. That's about as good as it's going to get.

I disagree, rhe nines is not really grueling work.
 
I'm not fussed. Its narrow minded to think we're the only club who doesn't take a full strength squad. I don't think the Broncos, Storm or Bulldogs have ever taken a full strength squad. I know its cliche but if Tedesco or Moses did an ACL there would be threads on here outlining plans for riots. Come round 10 if we are in the 8 is anyone going to remember the 9's? Look at the bigger picture.
 
@Balmain Boy said:
Brooks
Simona
Heleta
Lawrence
ET
Ava
MCK
Liddle
Paseka
Marsters
Sue
Naiqama
Mapesone

And a couple of outside backs we can pluck from somewhere. We really don't have any good young outside backs pushing for a spot in first grade which is a real shame seeing it's such a weak spot for us. Unless we go for those with only a couple of NYC games. We still don't really have a backline in NSW cup which is a huge problem. Unless there are some quality blokes signed without being made public.

1\. Justin Hunt
2\. Ryan Papenhuyzen (see how he goes)
3\. Ryland Jacobs
4\. Watson Heleta
5\. Jordan Rankin
6\. Veiru Mapesone
7\. Jeremy Marshall-King
 
Squad named Saturday at Members Party Launch…so we don't have long to wait..

You have to forgive happy once again he's having memory issues...World Club 7's and still reigning champions...that squad was made up of talented youngsters and a few journeymen..When Fitzy was king...
 
@happy tiger said:
We need the treat this comp with some respect

This team needs learn how to win semis and finals , only way you can experience that is by doing it

Disagree with Taylor , take 100 % fit squad over and try and win the damn thing , confidence is an amazing thing

Remind me , what did we win a year before we won the 2005 premiership ….

I agree. Having a run before the season starts is great but more importantly its the mental side of learning how to win (any competition) & taking confidence from that into the season proper. Lets face it, injuries can happen at training so that shouldn't be a deterrent to sending a strong squad although I'd also like to see a mix of younger players who are looking for an opportunity to impress.

Bottom line, we should be looking to win any comp we enter.
 
@gallagher said:
@2041 said:
@gallagher said:
:frowning:

@supercoach said:
I would bite the bullet and pick the best available. Big money up for grabs and we need all the money we get our hands on. As for injuries, they can happen at training, at home anywhere. I also think it may give the club a lift. Okay it is a mickey mouse event, but give the sponsors and the fans a positive note to start the year

I agree.
It's a mickey mouse comp because the clubs generally don't send their stars. If all the big names went it would attract bigger crowds and more sponsors making it a bigger event. That would bring in more money for the clubs and players.
Rugby league bosses don't understand that they are in the entertainment business. its a very narrow minded sport.

There is a limit to the amount first-grade players can play at top level without losing effectiveness or having too many of them get injured. Pre-season is all about getting players ready for the demands of a long, gruelling season ahead. It's narrow minded of fans to expect star players to be available to fulfill any whim of the scheduling calendar.

Personally I feel the nines is about as good a compromise as it can be. Coaches and most clubs would probably rather it didn't exist at all, the organisers and media would like more stars to take part. Players, I imagine, are largely indifferent. In the end we get a watered down comp which, after several months of no football, is just about diverting enough to keep some of us interested. That's about as good as it's going to get.

I disagree, rhe nines is not really grueling work.

On one side there's you, who asserts that the nines is easy work and everyone should send full-strength squads. On the other there is basically every NRL coach, who believe it's unhelpful for full-season preparation. I know who I'm going to believe.
 
@happy tiger said:
We need the treat this comp with some respect

This team needs learn how to win semis and finals , only way you can experience that is by doing it

Disagree with Taylor , take 100 % fit squad over and try and win the damn thing , confidence is an amazing thing

Remind me , what did we win a year before we won the 2005 premiership ….

"Winning doesn't matter" Jason Taylor
 
@Tiger Come Lately said:
@Balmain Boy said:
@happy tiger said:
We need the treat this comp with some respect

This team needs learn how to win semis and finals , only way you can experience that is by doing it

Disagree with Taylor , take 100 % fit squad over and try and win the damn thing , confidence is an amazing thing

Remind me , what did we win a year before we won the 2005 premiership ….

A chook raffle?

A meat tray?

2004 7's another tournament everyone thought was a waste of time also
 
@Nelson said:
@Balmain Boy said:
Brooks
Simona
Heleta
Lawrence
ET
Ava
MCK
Liddle
Paseka
Marsters
Sue
Naiqama
Mapesone

And a couple of outside backs we can pluck from somewhere. We really don't have any good young outside backs pushing for a spot in first grade which is a real shame seeing it's such a weak spot for us. Unless we go for those with only a couple of NYC games. We still don't really have a backline in NSW cup which is a huge problem. Unless there are some quality blokes signed without being made public.

1\. Justin Hunt
2\. Ryan Papenhuyzen (see how he goes)
3\. Ryland Jacobs
4\. Watson Heleta
5\. Jordan Rankin
6\. Veiru Mapesone
7\. Jeremy Marshall-King

In terms of blooding youngsters you'd say Jacobs is the only one i didn't mention with a shot. He's never filled me with much confidence, but see how he goes. Pap has only played like 6 NYC games so can't see him being thrown in. Rankin may get a gig in the 9's as a wing/utility/kicker i guess too
 
As a group they will get a hell a lot more out of the nines by being very competitive and successful than just making up the numbers and sending a average squad over there. Even from a marketing point of view its a no brainer. Okay sure there is the injury worry but as I said that is ever present 24/7 anyway
 
@2041 said:
@gallagher said:
@2041 said:
@gallagher said:
:frowning:
I agree.
It's a mickey mouse comp because the clubs generally don't send their stars. If all the big names went it would attract bigger crowds and more sponsors making it a bigger event. That would bring in more money for the clubs and players.
Rugby league bosses don't understand that they are in the entertainment business. its a very narrow minded sport.

There is a limit to the amount first-grade players can play at top level without losing effectiveness or having too many of them get injured. Pre-season is all about getting players ready for the demands of a long, gruelling season ahead. It's narrow minded of fans to expect star players to be available to fulfill any whim of the scheduling calendar.

Personally I feel the nines is about as good a compromise as it can be. Coaches and most clubs would probably rather it didn't exist at all, the organisers and media would like more stars to take part. Players, I imagine, are largely indifferent. In the end we get a watered down comp which, after several months of no football, is just about diverting enough to keep some of us interested. That's about as good as it's going to get.

I disagree, rhe nines is not really grueling work.

On one side there's you, who asserts that the nines is easy work and everyone should send full-strength squads. On the other there is basically every NRL coach, who believe it's unhelpful for full-season preparation. I know who I'm going to believe.

I think they'd be more worried about injury than burn out. We wouldn't have origin if it was up to the coaches.
 
@gallagher said:
@2041 said:
@gallagher said:
@2041 said:
There is a limit to the amount first-grade players can play at top level without losing effectiveness or having too many of them get injured. Pre-season is all about getting players ready for the demands of a long, gruelling season ahead. It's narrow minded of fans to expect star players to be available to fulfill any whim of the scheduling calendar.

Personally I feel the nines is about as good a compromise as it can be. Coaches and most clubs would probably rather it didn't exist at all, the organisers and media would like more stars to take part. Players, I imagine, are largely indifferent. In the end we get a watered down comp which, after several months of no football, is just about diverting enough to keep some of us interested. That's about as good as it's going to get.

I disagree, rhe nines is not really grueling work.

On one side there's you, who asserts that the nines is easy work and everyone should send full-strength squads. On the other there is basically every NRL coach, who believe it's unhelpful for full-season preparation. I know who I'm going to believe.

I think they'd be more worried about injury than burn out. We wouldn't have origin if it was up to the coaches.

There is also the fact that basically no other successful sport in the world is going down the route of adding more competitions - with the possible exception of cricket, I guess. Sports administrators know that fans have limited capacity to care about new tournaments, and teams know that without massive squads they simply can't play full intensity for endless games.

Soccer: big clubs basically care about their domestic league and the Champions League. Star players are routinely rested for domestic cup competitions and the UEFA Cup. Big teams play lots of money-spinning friendlies, but with mixed squads and at low intensity.
NFL: the pro bowl has become a half-pace, non-contact knockabout. Efforts to extend the regular season to 18 from 16 games have encountered significant resistance.
Rugby union: a bit different because the international game dominates, but fixture congestion and player burnout is a major issue especially in Europe. Sevens is now a completely separate code with no player crossover.
AFL: the pre-season tournament is viewed as a warm up by most/all teams, and played at half pace. The international rules games have all but disappeared.
Cricket: the addition of T20 has been a huge game-changer, of course - but mainly because there is more cash in the new version of the game than the old one. Interest in 50 over and test cricket is declining, player (especially bowler) fatigue is a huge issue, and you don't see international players turning out for their clubs or even states more than once or twice a year for a tune up.

And yet you want NRL clubs not only to commit their full squads to a meaningless pre-season tournament played under completely different rules but to go at it full-intensity? It's nonsense.

What players are training for in pre-season is the demands of regular season rugby league. Playing 80 minutes, defensive structure, honing set moves. None of this stuff applies to nine-a-side football in short bursts - it's a totally different code and not helpful for preparing for the real season.
 
@2041 said:
@gallagher said:
@2041 said:
@gallagher said:
I disagree, rhe nines is not really grueling work.

On one side there's you, who asserts that the nines is easy work and everyone should send full-strength squads. On the other there is basically every NRL coach, who believe it's unhelpful for full-season preparation. I know who I'm going to believe.

I think they'd be more worried about injury than burn out. We wouldn't have origin if it was up to the coaches.

There is also the fact that basically no other successful sport in the world is going down the route of adding more competitions - with the possible exception of cricket, I guess. Sports administrators know that fans have limited capacity to care about new tournaments, and teams know that without massive squads they simply can't play full intensity for endless games.

Soccer: big clubs basically care about their domestic league and the Champions League. Star players are routinely rested for domestic cup competitions and the UEFA Cup. Big teams play lots of money-spinning friendlies, but with mixed squads and at low intensity.
NFL: the pro bowl has become a half-pace, non-contact knockabout. Efforts to extend the regular season to 18 from 16 games have encountered significant resistance.
Rugby union: a bit different because the international game dominates, but fixture congestion and player burnout is a major issue especially in Europe. Sevens is now a completely separate code with no player crossover.
AFL: the pre-season tournament is viewed as a warm up by most/all teams, and played at half pace. The international rules games have all but disappeared.
Cricket: the addition of T20 has been a huge game-changer, of course - but mainly because there is more cash in the new version of the game than the old one. Interest in 50 over and test cricket is declining, player (especially bowler) fatigue is a huge issue, and you don't see international players turning out for their clubs or even states more than once or twice a year for a tune up.

And yet you want NRL clubs not only to commit their full squads to a meaningless pre-season tournament played under completely different rules but to go at it full-intensity? It's nonsense.

What players are training for in pre-season is the demands of regular season rugby league. Playing 80 minutes, defensive structure, honing set moves. None of this stuff applies to nine-a-side football in short bursts - it's a totally different code and not helpful for preparing for the real season.

The T20 comparison just makes me laugh , worse case you bowl 24 balls or maybe face 70 balls and they pay you probably 10 times as much for it

And they complain about fatigue

What because their wallets are too heavy to carry ?? :roll
 
@2041 said:
@gallagher said:
@2041 said:
@gallagher said:
I disagree, rhe nines is not really grueling work.

On one side there's you, who asserts that the nines is easy work and everyone should send full-strength squads. On the other there is basically every NRL coach, who believe it's unhelpful for full-season preparation. I know who I'm going to believe.

I think they'd be more worried about injury than burn out. We wouldn't have origin if it was up to the coaches.

There is also the fact that basically no other successful sport in the world is going down the route of adding more competitions - with the possible exception of cricket, I guess. Sports administrators know that fans have limited capacity to care about new tournaments, and teams know that without massive squads they simply can't play full intensity for endless games.

Soccer: big clubs basically care about their domestic league and the Champions League. Star players are routinely rested for domestic cup competitions and the UEFA Cup. Big teams play lots of money-spinning friendlies, but with mixed squads and at low intensity.
NFL: the pro bowl has become a half-pace, non-contact knockabout. Efforts to extend the regular season to 18 from 16 games have encountered significant resistance.
Rugby union: a bit different because the international game dominates, but fixture congestion and player burnout is a major issue especially in Europe. Sevens is now a completely separate code with no player crossover.
AFL: the pre-season tournament is viewed as a warm up by most/all teams, and played at half pace. The international rules games have all but disappeared.
Cricket: the addition of T20 has been a huge game-changer, of course - but mainly because there is more cash in the new version of the game than the old one. Interest in 50 over and test cricket is declining, player (especially bowler) fatigue is a huge issue, and you don't see international players turning out for their clubs or even states more than once or twice a year for a tune up.

And yet you want NRL clubs not only to commit their full squads to a meaningless pre-season tournament played under completely different rules but to go at it full-intensity? It's nonsense.

What players are training for in pre-season is the demands of regular season rugby league. Playing 80 minutes, defensive structure, honing set moves. None of this stuff applies to nine-a-side football in short bursts - it's a totally different code and not helpful for preparing for the real season.

We have to play in the 9's tournament so we may as well try and win the thing. Give the players a tiny sniff of some actual success.
 
Disappointed to hear a negative attitude from the coach and club about a competition we are in.
White flag raised.
I appreciate the honesty…. And I see both sides of the argument... But as a fan I want my team to have a good hard dig every single time they run out even if it's handball or hopscotch their competing in
 
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