Your team for Round 3

@Danos said:
@Staks said:
1\. Lazarus
2\. Tuqiri
3\. Ayshford
4\. Lawrence
5\. Ryan
6\. Marshall
7\. Moltzen
8\. Galloway
9\. Farah ©
10\. Gibbs
11\. Ellis
12\. Fulton
13\. Heighington

14\. Fifita
15\. Payten
16\. Flanagan
17\. Taumata
18\. Moors

Thats the one, except Lui on the bench if fit. C'mon Sheensy… 😛ray:
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If Tuqiri was on the wing again, wouldn't you play him same side as Lawrence at least?
 
1\. Lawrence
2\. Tuqiri
3\. Ayshford
4\. Moltzen
5\. Ryan
6\. Marshall
7\. Lazarus
8\. Galloway
9\. Farah ©
10\. Gibbs
11\. Ellis
12\. Fulton
13\. Heighington

14\. Fifita
15\. Moors
16\. Flanagan/Taumata
17\. Payten
18\. Cayless
 
@Blakeeeeeee said:
How have all of you seen Lazarus? Do you attend games or have you seen videos online?
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seen every game laz has played this year n believe me he is as good as everyone says :righton:
 
Lazarus is not the option we want at fullback for mine if we move Moltzen to the halves. That combination needs time to gel. Put in a hard running fullback who puts his body on the line and can bark orders at a defensive line and run at the ruck off players hips.
 
@smeghead said:
Lazarus is not the option we want at fullback for mine if we move Moltzen to the halves. That combination needs time to gel. Put in a hard running fullback who puts his body on the line and can bark orders at a defensive line and run at the ruck off players hips.
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Then the only option is Tuqiri.

Maybe a bit earlier than expected to move him now, but enough is enough with Moltzen at the back. Lote is experienced and a cool head, he'll handle it.
 
@hybrid_tiger said:
Then the only option is Tuqiri.

Maybe a bit earlier than expected to move him now, but enough is enough with Moltzen at the back. Lote is experienced and a cool head, he'll handle it.
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Agree 100%…..stuff the ballplaying fullback...

It's time to unleash Lote....
 
@Geo. said:
@triserratops said:
Assuming Ellis gets suspended and Gibbs and Fulton are still injured.

1.Moltzen
2.Tuqiri
3.Ayshford
4.Lawrence
5.Ryan
6.Marshall
7.Lui
8.Gibbs
9.Farah
10.Galloway
11.Cayless
12.Heighington
13.Flanagan

14.Fifita
15.Payten
16.Shirnack
17.Moors

Hey tops have you been drinking….you named Gibbsy.....

I don;t really care at this stage who's picked as long as A.FAFITA is in the team....
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Yep! 5 Coronas and topping it off tonight with a few JB Blacks. Just rehydrating-it was hot today!
:smiley:
Maybe the boys should hydrate the way I do after a Hot day!
:wink:
 
Don't think it is any coincidence that Sheens had a good long chat with Meaney after yesterdays State Cup clash. If he is over him hamstring niggle it would not suprise to see him there.

Lote will be a good option but I am not sure he is ready or even capable of directing a defensive structure (one of the primary roles of a fullback and one of Moltzens primary failures).

Time will tell whast option is taken though. If we lose Ellis to suspension and Gibbs & Fulton are not back it is unlikely Moltzen will be moved as there is already a fair bit of team disruption
 
Meaney wouldn't be the worst option that's for damn sure. He's tough enough for the NRL and bigger than Moltzen. He'd do a pretty good job.
 
Based on discussion bots intel.

1\. Tuqiri
2\. Ryan
3\. Lawrence
4\. Ayshford
5\. Fitzhenry
6\. Marshall
7\. Moltzen
8\. Galloway
9\. Farah
10\. Gibbs
11\. Heighington
12\. Payten
13\. Fulton

14\. Flanagan
15\. Cayless
16\. Moors
17\. Daniela

is a likely lineup

though certainly not what i'd run out with
 
Chances are that Ellis wont play due to either injury or suspension. Based on that:

1\. Moltzen
2\. Tuqiri
3\. Lawrence
4\. Ayshford
5\. Ryan
6\. Marshall
7\. Lazarus
8\. Galloway
9\. Farah
10\. Gibbs
11\. Heighington (play left edge)
12\. Fulton (play right edge)
13\. Payten (play up the middle)

14\. Fitzhenry (need his versatility till our positions get set)
15\. Fifita
16\. Cayless
17\. Flanagan

18\. Moors

Lote will need more time before he is moved to fullback. Moltzen to stay there to minimise changes to the team.
 
@smeghead said:
Lazarus is not the option we want at fullback for mine if we move Moltzen to the halves. That combination needs time to gel. Put in a hard running fullback who puts his body on the line and can bark orders at a defensive line and run at the ruck off players hips.
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That's why a lot of people are clueless to how it all works. They think they can just "chuck" Lazarus into fullback again and he will be able to produce the goods.
Moltzen has been ruined by Sheens. The poor kid is scrambled and has lost his confidence because of Sheens' stubborness. I have never ever seen Moltz so frustrated as a football player until yesterday. You all saw what happened when he moved back to his natural position….his game was INSTANTLY more comfortable and he looked back at home, and that is with the kid training as fullback.
That's why Lazarus is once again producing his best football again being back in the halves after Sheens attempted to manufacture him into a fullback where his deft hands and sharp footwork close to the line was being wasted. Although in saying this, the experiment has been beneficial, and being the smart football player that he is, he has utilised these skills to add to his arsenal.

1\. Moltzen is a better 5/8th than halfback.
2\. Marshall should never be moved out of his position as 5/8th
3\. Lazarus is a better halfback than fullback
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That's why the solution to finding the best fit to fix the recurring problems within that squad needs careful thinking

7\. Lazarus
Best current option at the club for halfback.

6\. Marshall
Best current option at the club for 5/8th in front of Moltzen and Lui.

3\. Moltzen
Rubbish as to being the best option at fullback in the club but to fit Lazarus into the 7 jersey, Moltzen must regress back from his best position yet kept close to the attacking line, which would be centre and would still be able to use his natural football skills. But will need an experienced strong defender on his side of the field that he could interchange with.

1\. Tuqiri
has all the attributes to become a strong kick returner who needs to get his hands on the ball as much as possible. He may be slightly suspect under a high ball still as it is early days(but this can always be improved with training), but he has proven he is an "athlete" who thrives on pressure and confidence.

Lawrence, Ryan and Fitzhenry are interchangeable in the 3/4s and are experienced enough to do the job required of them. The player who is not interchangeable is Ayshford who can only slot from the centres,5/8th, or lock. But that will not happen anytime soon until he serves his time and completes developing as a 1st grade footballer. So he must remain at centre, but also needs an experienced player on his side of the field to assist his development for defence. The only seasoned players at the club to do this are Fitzhenry or Lawrence.

That is why a backline such as this has such potency in attack, and also interchangeable to suit defensively:

1\. Tuqiri
2\. Fitzhenry
3\. Moltzen
4\. Ayshford
5\. Lawrence

6\. Marshall
7\. Lazarus
 
Copied my post from another thread….

Nothing would please me more than seeing Blake Lazo in the #7 jersey, but that would mean Sheens would keep Moltzen at Fullback.........please no!!.

Hence I think it's time for Sheens to add , a tough , roll up the sleeves, who kicks conversions better than Benji, kind of fullback, and put in Sean Meaney....he will get the jonb done.

Blake will be our No#7 within time, but needs extra games in State Cup....there is no need to rush this WT diamond

Hence my starting 17 would look like this...

1.Sean Meaney
2.Beau Ryan
3.Blake Ayshford
4.Chris Lawrence
5.Lote Tuquiri

6.Benji Marshall
7.Tim Moltzen

13.Chris Heighington
12.Gareth Ellis
11.Liam Fulton
10.Keith Galloway
9.Robbie Farah
8.Bryce Gibbs

14.Todd Payten
15.Junior Moors
16.Mark Flanagan
17.Andrew Fifita
 
@crouching_tiger said:
@smeghead said:
Lazarus is not the option we want at fullback for mine if we move Moltzen to the halves. That combination needs time to gel. Put in a hard running fullback who puts his body on the line and can bark orders at a defensive line and run at the ruck off players hips.

That's why a lot of people are clueless to how it all works. They think they can just "chuck" Lazarus into fullback again and he will be able to produce the goods.
Moltzen has been ruined by Sheens. The poor kid is scrambled and has lost his confidence because of Sheens' stubborness. I have never ever seen Moltz so frustrated as a football player until yesterday. You all saw what happened when he moved back to his natural position….his game was INSTANTLY more comfortable and he looked back at home, and that is with the kid training as fullback.
That's why Lazarus is once again producing his best football again being back in the halves after Sheens attempted to manufacture him into a fullback where his deft hands and sharp footwork close to the line was being wasted. Although in saying this, the experiment has been beneficial, and being the smart football player that he is, he has utilised these skills to add to his arsenal.

1\. Moltzen is a better 5/8th than halfback.
2\. Marshall should never be moved out of his position as 5/8th
3\. Lazarus is a better halfback than fullback
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That's why the solution to finding the best fit to fix the recurring problems within that squad needs careful thinking

7\. Lazarus
Best current option at the club for halfback.

6\. Marshall
Best current option at the club for 5/8th in front of Moltzen and Lui.

3\. Moltzen
Rubbish as to being the best option at fullback in the club but to fit Lazarus into the 7 jersey, Moltzen must regress back from his best position yet kept close to the attacking line, which would be centre and would still be able to use his natural football skills. But will need an experienced strong defender on his side of the field that he could interchange with.

1\. Tuqiri
has all the attributes to become a strong kick returner who needs to get his hands on the ball as much as possible. He may be slightly suspect under a high ball still as it is early days(but this can always be improved with training), but he has proven he is an "athlete" who thrives on pressure and confidence.

Lawrence, Ryan and Fitzhenry are interchangeable in the 3/4s and are experienced enough to do the job required of them. The player who is not interchangeable is Ayshford who can only slot from the centres,5/8th, or lock. But that will not happen anytime soon until he serves his time and completes developing as a 1st grade footballer. So he must remain at centre, but also needs an experienced player on his side of the field to assist his development for defence. The only seasoned players at the club to do this are Fitzhenry or Lawrence.

That is why a backline such as this has such potency in attack, and also interchangeable to suit defensively:

1\. Tuqiri
2\. Fitzhenry
3\. Moltzen
4\. Ayshford
5\. Lawrence

6\. Marshall
7\. Lazarus
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Firstly sorry about the size of the quote.

But in all honesty if Lazarus had a few more games under his belt and was 100% proven defensively than he would slot into the 7 for mine and Moltzen would be back in State Cup. I feel Lawrence and Ayshford are better centres than Moltzen and there is no pont putting him on the wing and he should never play at fullback again.

Lazarus is an organiser with a effective kicking game. Moltzen is neither.
 
1.Mulleney/Lazarus (both know the position & both better options than Moltzen & both kick goals)
2.Tuqiri (I agree with Sheens he is not ready for fullback yet)
3.Lawernce
4.Ayshford (Hard to bring down I would move him to lock when Tuiaki returns)
5.Ryan
6.Marshall
7.Moltzen (We looked dangerous as soon as Moltzen moved back to 1/2 back that's were he belongs)
8.Galloway
9.Farah
10.Gibbs
11.Ellis (should get over a cork)
12.Heighnington (He is not an 80 minute player & should be given a rest)
13.Fulton (I can't believe i'm saying this but we missed him)

14.Taumata (lets see what the kid can do.He can play any where in the back line)
15.Moors (I saw an improvement & he needs more of a chance to prove himself)
16.Cayless(Same as Moors.Needs more time to prove himself)
17.Payten/Fafita (Should be back from injury if he is not ready Fafita should get another crack who was impressive on debut)
 
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