Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Martin will not leave the panthers, all he is doing is trying to get extra out of them , them will up it and he will stay 100%
As for young dykes , if he is as good as they say it might be worth offering him a incentive bonus , if he plays 1st grade his money goes up .
 
TieDye said:
Agreed. No way. He’ll be a great player in the future though. See him in that worker mould which is highly consistent, 600k p.a would be an absolute maximum. Can I just ask?

Does anybody seriously fancy he’d actually leave?
Click to expand...
Some players are bound to leave that squad surely, their individual values are continuously rising. Unless they all wanna keep the band together on lesser salary that they can potentially earn elsewhere I think it's inevitable some of them will move on
 
sparci said:
Some players are bound to leave that squad surely, their individual values are continuously rising. Unless they all wanna keep the band together on lesser salary that they can potentially earn elsewhere I think it's inevitable some of them will move on
Click to expand...
Absolutely right but he’s not that guy! Crichton x2?
 
Tiger_Fanatic3 said:
He plays a role in the team, and he plays it well, but certainly dont think he is going to get offers as high as 750k.

Remember when Matt Dufty asked his agent to shop him around for $850k/year and absolutely no one was interested?
Click to expand...
His attitude and will to win is what we require. He reminds me of Luke Lewis the way he plays and it was noticeable how the Cronulla Club changed with his recruitment.
 
Odessa said:
Sheen's did not panic he just wanted to complete with the bigger clubs and try to win the title and knew he could not compete with the TPA's he rolled the dice and should have won in 2010 and could have in 2011 good on him for having the stones to do it

And don't blame him for 2014 onwards because alot of contacts was renewed under Potter and the board went over Potters head head to sign massive contacts
Click to expand...
Isn't "rolling the dice" a form of panicking? Rolling the dice literally means to gamble on an outcome, and strictly speaking that is a 1/6 chance (i.e. low outcome). I've never heard of someone rolling the dice in a calm, measured, self-assured fashion.

It is my opinion that Sheens saw the writing on the wall after his long tenure - that despite some real success, Tigers had only made the finals 3 times, and after the premiership, the club (the board) became aggressive about maintaining regular success.

I think that after failing to win a comp in 2010-2011 (and I would agree there is a consensus even amongst non-Tigers fans that Tigers probably should have won another comp) that Sheens panicked.

Why do I think he panicked?
  • He aggressively moved to break up what became called "the boys club", though that playing group had made Tigers a short-lived strong premiership threat
  • He fatally agreed to transfer Andrew Fifita in order for Sharks to take on Bryce Gibbs, and Fifita quickly became one of the competition's premier players
  • He invested heavily in Adam Blair, hoping that a big-name Melbourne recruit would take the Tigers to another level, and failed to understand the pitfalls of attempting to transfer Storm players out of their system
Obviously in hindsight these things are easy to say when the outcomes are known, but I believe these points speak to a rapid and specific change in tactics, to try and save his coaching career. I call that panicking, but semantics aside, it was a rapid departure for Sheens.

Sheens is old and wily enough to know that the board would not tolerate Tigers failing to remain competitive in 2012. Otherwise, Sheens could have kept doing what he had been doing the past decade and Tigers would have continued to still be a periodic finals contender (about 50% of the time).

BTW not blaming Sheens for anything beyond 2012.
Anyhow the proof is in the pudding, is it not? Sheens gambled, Tigers crashed spectacularly in 2012 and Sheens was sacked. These are not the outcomes of a calm, measured coach who is building long-term plans, it is an outcome for someone who can smell the winds of change.
 
jirskyr said:
Isn't "rolling the dice" a form of panicking? Rolling the dice literally means to gamble on an outcome, and strictly speaking that is a 1/6 chance (i.e. low outcome). I've never heard of someone rolling the dice in a calm, measured, self-assured fashion.

It is my opinion that Sheens saw the writing on the wall after his long tenure - that despite some real success, Tigers had only made the finals 3 times, and after the premiership, the club (the board) became aggressive about maintaining regular success.

I think that after failing to win a comp in 2010-2011 (and I would agree there is a consensus even amongst non-Tigers fans that Tigers probably should have won another comp) that Sheens panicked.

Why do I think he panicked?
  • He aggressively moved to break up what became called "the boys club", though that playing group had made Tigers a short-lived strong premiership threat
  • He fatally agreed to transfer Andrew Fifita in order for Sharks to take on Bryce Gibbs, and Fifita quickly became one of the competition's premier players
  • He invested heavily in Adam Blair, hoping that a big-name Melbourne recruit would take the Tigers to another level, and failed to understand the pitfalls of attempting to transfer Storm players out of their system
Obviously in hindsight these things are easy to say when the outcomes are known, but I believe these points speak to a rapid and specific change in tactics, to try and save his coaching career. I call that panicking, but semantics aside, it was a rapid departure for Sheens.

Sheens is old and wily enough to know that the board would not tolerate Tigers failing to remain competitive in 2012. Otherwise, Sheens could have kept doing what he had been doing the past decade and Tigers would have continued to still be a periodic finals contender (about 50% of the time).

BTW not blaming Sheens for anything beyond 2012.
Anyhow the proof is in the pudding, is it not? Sheens gambled, Tigers crashed spectacularly in 2012 and Sheens was sacked. These are not the outcomes of a calm, measured coach who is building long-term plans, it is an outcome for someone who can smell the winds of change.
Click to expand...
No I don’t think “rolling the dice” is always panicking. You can make a calm measured decision as to wether you are going to bet on a 6:1 shot, or you can stand back and throw your money at a risk and then that would be a panicked decision. Depends on the thought process before the decision to “roll the dice”. Either way as you pointed out there were some poor decisions made over a long period.
 
Wokk_ said:
Recent targets
Click to expand...
I think you're being a bit unrealistic. Every club is going to look at loads of players and not sign them all. If you have a look at the NRL signings tracker its pretty clear that having two top line new players already signed for 2023 puts the Tigers in pretty rare company. Looking at the other teams who should be looking to improve their rosters with external signings, would you rather be the Broncos (Jesse Arthars returning from loan), Raiders (no signings), Bulldogs (no signings), Titans (Kieran Foran), Knights (no signings), Dragons (no signings) or Souths (Kodi Nikorima)? The only really active one has been the Warriors and honestly I'm not sure I'd rather take their haul (Marata Niukore, Luke Metcalf, Dylan Walker and Mitchell Barnett).
 
A lot of interest in Selwyn Cobbo. Foxsports reporting 8 clubs have expressed interest. But likely to stay at the Broncos.………

‘The winger is considered a long-term fullback at Brisbane and has been compared to a young Greg Inglis.

Cobbo is on $180,000 this season but his stellar form has seen his value skyrocket and he’ll soon earn more than $600,000 per year.

Cobbo is reportedly on the cusp of re-signing at the Broncos on a $2 million dollar deal that will keep him at Red Hill until 2025.

That’s prompted as many as eight clubs to chase Cobbo’s signature, but Brisbane coach Kevin Walters insists the future fullback is going nowhere.’
 
  • Like
Reactions: PJ_
You must log in or register to reply here.

Latest posts

Members online

Total: 205 (members: 11, guests: 194)
Forever online: Tigergran, Geo
Back
Top