Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[earl]

Is that actually an NRL compliant rule though?

Good question.

 

[earl]

What position will Douhie play though?

My personal preference is Hastings 7 and AD 6. I think that would be our best combination.

The reality is though AD has to get on the park and prove himself as the other two do as well.

If you can keep all of them under the cap it's cool but can you keep them all under the cap and have a good backline and a good pack ?

 

[Geo]

There is a way around this. I also think this is what they do in the NBA. You basically pay out a bonus to all the players on your team.

I like this idea because it doesn't impact your cap longer term.

I think I'm getting the gist of what you are saying..

Salary cap compliance has a floor as well as a ceiling.. Clubs must spend at least 96% of the Cap.. Bonuses are factored into player contracts .. can be a number of things.. plying x number of FG games.. making Origin. International representation etc.. When activated the bonuses are included in the Cap .. Clubs allow for it ..

 

[TSP]

Angus gave me the sly little finger once when I suggested he go back to Souths. He’s awesome, top fella.

 

[Long Term Fan]

Left of field question. Do NRL players get paid Superannuation as part of their contracts?

 

[Coastie_Tiger]

Wonder if the dogs would try a swap Brooks for Burton, notice i said the dogs not us. Would certainly be interesting one to ponder. Brooks apparently agitated for a release all summer i think those thoughts just dont disappear because you have a couple of half decent games.

 

[jirskyr]

I can see bias against the Tigers when I want them to win and I can see bias for other teams when I have tipped or bet on them and want then to win.

OK what about the games where you didn't tip/gamble and Tigers were not playing?

What about when you bet on the Tigers winning? Does that for/against bias get ruled out?

Assuming you don't always tip for the favourite, you are saying the refs are somehow aligned to what you have tipped and are biased towards that tip, but only so long as Wests Tigers are involved?

You are describing 100% observational and selection bias.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

With so many good young players now at WTs, we need to keep some of the $ in reserve for upgrades.

As a separate issue, the Dogs with Thompson, TPJ, Kikau and others have some hefty contracts to move. It will be interesting to watch how this plays out. I do feel sorry for Vaughan who is not really the flavour of the month but others have done worse and are still in the NRL.

 

[SeanT]

With so many good young players now at WTs, we need to keep some of the $ in reserve for upgrades.

So many? We are coming equal last. Until they start competing consistently and improving upgrades can wait. Roosters and Storm wouldn't upgrade unless performances were met.

 

[1eyedmel]

What position does Burton want to play moving forward. Is he playing in the position at the dogs what he signed on for .Half-back or centre. Or would he make a good 13.

 

[Nelson]

I think I'm getting the gist of what you are saying..

Salary cap compliance has a floor as well as a ceiling.. Clubs must spend at least 96% of the Cap.. Bonuses are factored into player contracts .. can be a number of things.. plying x number of FG games.. making Origin. International representation etc.. When activated the bonuses are included in the Cap .. Clubs allow for it ..

I don't think he's talking about performance bonuses, he's talking about a windfall payment for all players on the roster if the club is below its salary floor at the time it needs to have met its floor. So if you have a floor of $90 million or whatever it is and your 15-man roster (NBA) is only getting paid $80 million on their contracts they'll all get a 15th of the $10 million gap paid to them.
You wouldn't do it in the NRL, you would just re-jig some of the larger contracts on your books to bring forward payments into the current year.

 

[mikey]

At the risk of copping from everyone, I actually think Brookes has been good since moving to 6. I'd like him to stay with Douehi in the centres; or Brookes on the bench - he could play 1/2, 5/8, hooker, lock, etc - similiar to how Wing did at the Rorters..

 

[earl]

You are describing 100% observational and selection bias.

This is how we roll.

 

[earl]

I don't think he's talking about performance bonuses, he's talking about a windfall payment for all players on the roster if the club is below its salary floor at the time it needs to have met its floor. So if you have a floor of $90 million or whatever it is and your 15-man roster (NBA) is only getting paid $80 million on their contracts they'll all get a 15th of the $10 million gap paid to them.
You wouldn't do it in the NRL, you would just re-jig some of the larger contracts on your books to bring forward payments into the current year.

It was mentioned that we have to spend our cap but there appear to be ways around it.

I reckon you could do it as a bonus based on Geo's post or as you state just re-jig bigger contracts.

 

[earl]

At the risk of copping from everyone, I actually think Brookes has been good since moving to 6. I'd like him to stay with Douehi in the centres; or Brookes on the bench - he could play 1/2, 5/8, hooker, lock, etc - similiar to how Wing did at the Rorters..

He has been good. Brooks is a pretty good first grader. He'd have value off the bench as well.

 

[Pbulk]

Left of field question. Do NRL players get paid Superannuation as part of their contracts?

I believe they pay their own superannuation like a subcontractor would/should.

 

[Tigerwould]

He has been good. Brooks is a pretty good first grader. He'd have value off the bench as well.

Certainly could. His speed and defence are both strong. Could on after 20 or 30 mins. turn a game with his speed. Cover hooker, edge, middle, centre or in the halves.

 

[batboy]

Why are you dissing 12?
That’s a tremendous representation across the State’s four premier teenage rep teams. No one is saying they’re all going to play NRL, but it’s an indication of the strength of the region. An area in which the Wests Tigers have dropped the ball in recent years on every single player who has kicked on to reach the NRL.

I agree that former Wests Magpies juniors; Shannon Gallant, Robbie Mears, Shayne McMenemy & Joe Saukuru are the big hope to turn things around.

Not dissing it - It's kids, As I've said (More than once) All the good kids usually come through together....

I won't ask again, As you probably won't answer again....
Aside from Paseka - Who took years to come on...
I can't think of any kids that have come through in recent years to make a big dint in the comp that we've missed.

 

[batboy]

That was my question also. How many South West juniors debuted for anyone at all? It may be a an overall lack of talent in the region that is the cause of the stat, which then opens up a very broad argument not only about Wests Tigers investment in Macarthur juniors, but rugby league's prospects in the region overall.

The junior district stats from, I think it was 2018, showed that Balmain and Magpies have about the same number of juniors, and both dwarfed by the numbers fielded at Penrith. That may be a Magpies / WT issue, or it may be an issue with the demographics of the region itself.

Also - it may reflect an intentional change of strategy over time. The first 75 players to debut for Wests Tigers probably all occurred before the 2005 GF, and many of them were inherited from the Magpies, i.e. were part of the merger deal. The last 75 debutants would be up to 20 years removed from those first 75, reflecting a potentially very different recruitment and development strategy.

All my thoughts mate - I don't know the stats, But I'll bet there's more kids (with population growth) But less of a percentage of them playing Rugby League.
For many reasons - The least of them being Wests Tigers involvement in the area....
In fact, I don't believe that's a reason at all.

 

[Holman Barnes #1 Fan]

Well about Nado, young mate said that when he was in the juniors were playing the roster in training, he was never a “ don’t you know who I am” player.

He was first to give the youngsters tips and befriend everyone. Therefore on the personality grounds, the best nrl player he’s ever met.

And the kids looked up to him a lot more than the superstars.

Daine Laurie called him his "idol". Seemed stoked to have him here.