Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[coivtny]

Is this full strength 2023 ?

1 Daine Laurie
2 Starford Toa (Nofo, IF he returns)
3 AJ Kepoa
4 Brent Naden
5 Ken Maumalo
6 Adam Douihei
7 Jock Madden or Luke Brooks
8 Joe Ofahengauie
9 Api Korosau
10 Stefano Utoikamanu
11 Shawn Blore
12 Isahia Papali'i
13 Jackson Hastings

14 Alex Twal
15 Fonua Pole
16 Zane Musgrove
17 Alex Seyfarth / Tommy Talau

If it is, I'm sorry to say it is likely to finish in the bottom 5. While it is a much better side than 2022, it is 2 or 3 players short of a top 8 side. If either Madden or Brooks are the starting half we will struggle. Forwards are top 8 standard if Blore steps up but the backs are very average.

 

[The SHADOW]

I know you shouldn’t drink whilst in rehab, but we do.

 

[Rusty]

Here is something to ponder, in the last 10yrs or more does anyone recollect any east player that east want to keep being taken from them by another club

Crighton example,
east have resigned him with no offers being made by other clubs to obtain him, at least I think. And all the superstars they have, when there contracts are due for renewal they dont go to market, they just resign with east, but myself, I would want to check out my value on the market before signing with anybody, does anyone else see it this way, or is it just my imagination.

RTS
Latrell
Guerra
Pearce
Matterson
Ferguson?
Mick Jennings
Kenny-Dowell / Napa disipline
I think uncle Nick knows what the salary cap is for next year and thats why Crighton has been waiting patiently

 

[diedpretty]

While I genuinely wouldn’t be surprised if the Roosters are rorting, according to organisational research the practices below are more important drivers of engagement/retention than remuneration and benefits. A comparison of us versus Roosters on these provides some insight as to why Roosters players might stay where they are for less money:

Success - Roosters (make the finals almost every year, win a few premierships) Tigers (10+ years without finals)
Wellbeing - Roosters (rest players until fully recovered, take head knocks seriously) Tigers (under Madge guys were asked to play injured and we still kinda see this a little, e.g Ken M never looks fully fit)
Values - Roosters (sell players on pride in their history and their book of fueds rivalry with souths) Tigers (media tells everyone that we struggle with our identity)
Leadership - Roosters (Successful father figures to provide life advice and post career support in Uncle Nick and Robbo) Tigers (Lee and Pascoe)
Career Opportunities - Roosters (Rookies learning off guns and veterans, with very few mid range players; sacking players to upgrade a position - such as Cheese told to come and he’ll be given an opportunity to play hooker with Verrils dumped) Tigers (Struggled with development recently but this will be a focus ongoing)
Involvement/Empowerment (not too sure about Roosters approach, Tigers under Madge seemed a bit more command and control)
Recruitment - Roosters (join us and you can learn from a team of rep players) Tigers (join us and the pressure will be on you to perform as our only rep player)
Cross Unit cooperation - Roosters (regularly talk about a one club approach where everyone in the entire club plays a roll in success and all are respected - from the chairman to the strapper), Tigers (??!Can’t comment as I’m not really sure what communication and respect is like between football and non-football staff)

yea right and then you have players and RLPA continually ramming home the fact that a playing career is short and players need to be paid more. So what do the rorters players do - stay at easts for far less money than they could get on the open market. Total BS.

 

[1eyedmel]

Mate of mine is in regular contact with the recruitment blokes. Regularly gets his inside info.

He reckons...

Brooks WILL push for a release in the coming weeks...

The smart money says Brooks will be pulling on a Dolphins jersey next season. For whatever reason, he has never managed to find the right groove with WT. I won't shit on him, however he's given some sound performances over the years, although he will be happier elsewhere and might even fulfil his potential. Luke just needs a fresh start. Brooks and Tigers parting ways is best for both parties.

Thanks for the info, I hope your mate is right.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

If that’s our best side then we can get the cabinet ready for another wooden spoon , we must have well over $ 2,000,000 to spent in the cap , and that is the best team we can come up with 💩💩💩💩

What about the young backs in our system - Scolari, Tupou, Bula, Kirk and the rugby convert? Surely there has to be progression?

 

[426Tlgerland]

Has The Pom come on anywhere of late with any info coming up on any player we are are looking at or close to getting signed up , we need a solid update as it seems other clubs are on the ball and we are just sitting back

 

[jadtiger]

Has The Pom come on anywhere of late with any info coming up on any player we are are looking at or close to getting signed up , we need a solid update as it seems other clubs are on the ball and we are just sitting back

Sheens is hoping to get Bwaith back

 

[Stevec]

Trying to figure out what we need I first list who we have who wouldn't be out of place in a top 4 side in their position
.No team had every player a star but have a mix of star and potential top class
What do we have that wouldn't look out of place in their position in a top 4 team
1. Laurie
2.Naden
3.
4.Talau ?
5.Nofoaloma
6.Douehi
7.Hastings/Brooks/Madden ?
8.Ofenghaue
9.Korisau
10.Utoikimano
11.Papalii
12.
13.NuBrown /Hastings

Bench : Pole Musgrove Blore Twal Peachy
I'm assuming Kenny is so busted that he won't get back to 100% fit but hope he does .
So IMO we need a big fast center and a big meter eater forward
Problem is we need these 2 also don't know if Talau is fit and Hastings and Douehi are not locked in yet? Also Brooks or Madden not really top 4 half's

 

[Demps]

If it is, I'm sorry to say it is likely to finish in the bottom 5. While it is a much better side than 2022, it is 2 or 3 players short of a top 8 side. If either Madden or Brooks are the starting half we will struggle. Forwards are top 8 standard if Blore steps up but the backs are very average.

Facts
💯

 

[batboy]

If it is, I'm sorry to say it is likely to finish in the bottom 5. While it is a much better side than 2022, it is 2 or 3 players short of a top 8 side. If either Madden or Brooks are the starting half we will struggle. Forwards are top 8 standard if Blore steps up but the backs are very average.

Na.... No way
- I could count on one hand when our pack has matched the opposition this year
(And still hold an Ice Cream)
Blore returning doesn't replace Garner and Luciano (We're already backrowers short)
Api and Paps will certainly improve us.... Both are a heap of Footy off joining us though - With both headed to the WC.
But our pack lacks sooo much.... No desire, no mongrel, zero intimidators - Papi and Api will give us options but no Mongrel or Intimidation.

Matt Lodge anyone?

 

[InBenjiWeTrust]

Then our halves are what?

Madden and Brooks ?
They seem to want Jacko to stay at 13.

That seems a concern for me.
Very similar players.

I think we have issues lol

to put it mildly, we must drastically change the direction and end up with this mediocrity,
we simply cannot accept the same old!
We need our Messiah, to invent new Marshall, Tuiagi, Farah, Ellis

Na.... No way
- I could count on one hand when our pack has matched the opposition this year
(And still hold an Ice Cream)
Blore returning doesn't replace Garner and Luciano (We're already backrowers short)
Api and Paps will certainly improve us.... Both are a heap of Footy off joining us though - With both headed to the WC.
But our pack lacks sooo much.... No desire, no mongrel, zero intimidators - Papi and Api will give us options but no Mongrel or Intimidation.

Matt Lodge anyone?

IMHO, we need at least three (3) new aggressive props, and two (2) 2nd rowers.
We need to acquire those before we even think of adding/upgrading any other position.

 

[crazycat]

Nice comments, but we have a terrrible roster. As the song goes- you have to know when to throw them,- and you have to know when to hold them. Lucy, and Garner out two best now gone! Two quality coming, and at least 5 that should not be renewed, But the Tigers percervere with duds.

Garner, Look I like Garner but he was always a fingie kind of player. His last 5-6 games were probably his best, the rest were justification on why we punted him.

Lucy... Luciano

The NRL say the salary cap was brought in to make it an even playing field but its nowhere near it and they don't give a shit.. Integrity ... WHAT Integrity..

Roosters next year

Collins - QLD SOO Player
Angus Crichton - SOO player
Luke Keary - SOO player
Manu - NZ Rep
Radley - SOO and Eng Rep
Brendan Smith = NZ Rep
J Suaalii - SOO Reserve
Teddy - SOO and AUS
Daniel Tupou - SOO Player
JWH - NZ Rep
S Tupouniua - NZ Rep player
Sam Walker - Future SOO player

Some others that of course will be there :
Lodge - SOO Player
Nat Butcher


Of course they are losing these top ended players that would had to of been on 1.4mil each to accommodate the 13 rep players left:
Verrills
Naiqama
Tuakaiaho

Dead set there is like 13 rep players there and of course they are under the cap..
There is no way in hell these guys are not getting looked after on the side through TPA and special golf games etc...

If the NRL are serious they need to bring in a points system or take away the TPA or at least cap them.

He we are with all this money and cannot attract 1 of these guys because they are happy to stay where they are for 400k less.. Please ....

Their's my rant and it's now off my chest .... (Disclaimer - I know we need to get our own back yard fixed first but it hard when this shit happens)

Yes the above list looks incredible and no way Easts can fit them under the cap for multiple years.

That being said, Lodge was up for grabs if we wanted him. I would have said yes and asked if he could play at our club, providing attitude wise he was in the right place. Easts I believe have signed him cheaply.

IMHO Bad behaviour is being rewarded not punished in the NRL sometimes. Carney seemed to get transfered to other clubs, Josh Dugan too and Lodge. Why should the club where the bad behaviour occurs loose a player, for them to be picked up at Easts or Cronulla on the cheap.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

I need to put a plug in for Twal. He keeps the middle solid and we've missed him while he has been injured. Sure he is not the answer to all our problems but he does a job for the team. Get well soon.

 

[crazycat]

Na.... No way
- I could count on one hand when our pack has matched the opposition this year
(And still hold an Ice Cream)
Blore returning doesn't replace Garner and Luciano (We're already backrowers short)
Api and Paps will certainly improve us.... Both are a heap of Footy off joining us though - With both headed to the WC.
But our pack lacks sooo much.... No desire, no mongrel, zero intimidators - Papi and Api will give us options but no Mongrel or Intimidation.

Matt Lodge anyone?

First game us vs Newcastle.
We get walked over and half their pack was out.

Start of the year people were saying we had a balanced team that could make the top 8.
What a train wreck.

BTW I would have taken Matt Lodge back. Heck Aaron Woods is currently playing better then most of our pack.

 

[oldschooltiger]

Is this full strength 2023 ?

1 Daine Laurie
2 Starford Toa (Nofo, IF he returns)
3 AJ Kepoa
4 Brent Naden
5 Ken Maumalo
6 Adam Douihei
7 Jock Madden or Luke Brooks
8 Joe Ofahengauie
9 Api Korosau
10 Stefano Utoikamanu
11 Shawn Blore
12 Isahia Papali'i
13 Jackson Hastings

14 Alex Twal
15 Fonua Pole
16 Zane Musgrove
17 Alex Seyfarth / Tommy Talau

Still a long way to go till we are a top 8 side. We really need some juniors to hit the ground running.

 

[1eyedmel]

Has The Pom come on anywhere of late with any info coming up on any player we are are looking at or close to getting signed up , we need a solid update as it seems other clubs are on the ball and we are just sitting back

Reminds me of how we play our football

 

[coivtny]

Na.... No way
- I could count on one hand when our pack has matched the opposition this year
(And still hold an Ice Cream)
Blore returning doesn't replace Garner and Luciano (We're already backrowers short)
Api and Paps will certainly improve us.... Both are a heap of Footy off joining us though - With both headed to the WC.
But our pack lacks sooo much.... No desire, no mongrel, zero intimidators - Papi and Api will give us options but no Mongrel or Intimidation.

Matt Lodge anyone?

I'd take Matt Lodge in a heartbeat because he will improve us and give us the mongrel you talk about. But, we will be a better pack next year and in my opinion a top 8 pack. Api and Papi are big improvements, Pole will play a full season and be better than this year, Stefano will be back and will be much better if he stays injury free. A couple of the younger blokes (e.g Matamua) will likely come through. Blore is the risk, he could be great, he could be average or he could be injured again. If we have a reasonable run with injuries, I stand by my post.

 

[sparci]

Is this full strength 2023 ?

1 Daine Laurie
2 Starford Toa (Nofo, IF he returns)
3 AJ Kepoa
4 Brent Naden
5 Ken Maumalo
6 Adam Douihei
7 Jock Madden or Luke Brooks
8 Joe Ofahengauie
9 Api Korosau
10 Stefano Utoikamanu
11 Shawn Blore
12 Isahia Papali'i
13 Jackson Hastings

14 Alex Twal
15 Fonua Pole
16 Zane Musgrove
17 Alex Seyfarth / Tommy Talau

If Musgrove and Seyfarth are on the bench it wont matter whose starting that is a terrible terrible terrible bench with 2 spots wasted

 

[batboy]

I'd take Matt Lodge in a heartbeat because he will improve us and give us the mongrel you talk about. But, we will be a better pack next year and in my opinion a top 8 pack. Api and Papi are big improvements, Pole will play a full season and be better than this year, Stefano will be back and will be much better if he stays injury free. A couple of the younger blokes (e.g Matamua) will likely come through. Blore is the risk, he could be great, he could be average or he could be injured again. If we have a reasonable run with injuries, I stand by my post.

Agree with your points - Still, With the young blokes - Who's the leader?
Who's our JFH or JWH, Bromwich, Tapine or the like...
The kids are still kids - Good kids, But they still need a leader....

There's no real leadership there...