Sadly this is true.....hopefully things will change
Wests Tigers Coaches
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426Tlgerland
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Who is Melbourne and the cows
defence coach
attack coach
defence coach
attack coach
earl
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It's not that simple. We had Maguire here this season and we sacked him. He learnt his trade in Melbourne and then led Souths to a premiership.
We need the players.
Its blatantly obvious that the issue is with the lack of quality with the roster and the very reason why good players don't want a bar of us, and the man who was meant to hire the next(scapegoat)coach had to appoint himself in the position. The real worry is with all clubs on the look out for the players we need, how on earth are we meant to convince them to come!
BAGNF05
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Obvious (seemingly) to everyone who doesn’t make decisions at the WT club.
tigertragic
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Well I think Sheens will see out his 2 years (excuse - it’s a rebuild with juniors🙄) before handing on the poison chalice to Benji who will be sacked after 2 years ( reason - nothing has improved) . 2027 we will be looking for another new coach to start all over again and Lee and Pascoe will put a spin on it again.
I think I’ve reached complete disillusionment 😞
I think I’ve reached complete disillusionment 😞
tony soprano
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You forgot to mention Madge was also sacked by Souths
earl
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He was but it doesn't change anything. People want simplistic answers. If we just get the right trainers or coach or whatever everything will be good. It's not that simple.
The whole system matters but in my opinion developing a good squad is greater than 80% of the contributing factor towards success.
twentyforty
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The way I see it, coaches fall into 4 broad categories.
1. Reputation, runs on the board.
2. Reasonable, but not hitting boundaries.
3. Tried n failed, back to assisting.
4. Untried assistants.
Only a small percentage of categories 2, 3 & 4. are willing to do dirty hit ups. They want a balanced cap, with a pipeline of talent developing. The club appears reluctant to hire a cat 3 and cat 1 laughs at the suggestion.
Benji about to start training to become a cat 4.
Our success depends on getting our house in order, developing the organisation to a standard which is acceptable to cat ones.
1. Reputation, runs on the board.
2. Reasonable, but not hitting boundaries.
3. Tried n failed, back to assisting.
4. Untried assistants.
Only a small percentage of categories 2, 3 & 4. are willing to do dirty hit ups. They want a balanced cap, with a pipeline of talent developing. The club appears reluctant to hire a cat 3 and cat 1 laughs at the suggestion.
Benji about to start training to become a cat 4.
Our success depends on getting our house in order, developing the organisation to a standard which is acceptable to cat ones.
Bellamy and Robinson are the only two long serving coaches that I can think of since our merge that havnt been fired or ever look like being fired and when you look at the calibre of the players that they have had the luxury of coaching it becomes evident why.
No coach should have been fired for our current squad and expect that another coach could do better especially in a club that consistently fails to attract and retain quality. Im at a loss to see anything under Sheens - and a competiive market - that looks like it may change soon.
No coach should have been fired for our current squad and expect that another coach could do better especially in a club that consistently fails to attract and retain quality. Im at a loss to see anything under Sheens - and a competiive market - that looks like it may change soon.
twentyforty
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I listened to 2 hours of Benji and drew a conclusion that the club could be more relationship, rather than task, focussed. I'm not saying its a bad thing and wont produce the results, just think it could be a distraction from time to time and take precedence over achievement, as it may have done with the Madge sacking. I think it was the case back when Sheens got sacked and the two players who complained to the board about their mates getting moved on to Sharks.
Im not optimistic that the next two years will change the culture of the Tigers.
No accountability.
Removing Madge with no Plan in place has proved to be a failure
Ripped the soul out of the club when we were on the cusp of change.
Yeah - Im hurting
twentyforty
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Absolutely!!
Even if Benji was the planB, it says a lot about the club’s deplorable record of problem resolution.
Better use that up as much as you can because come two weekends from now that will no longer be the case.
twentyforty
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The tactic of kicking the ball into touch. Take up all the time available to set the scrum.
Did it work?
What did it achieve?
Is this tactic now part of the DNA?
Did we show far too much respect for the chooks defence?
Likewise, too much respect for their attack from within their 20?
Can someone explain how this tactic could or may have produced a favourable outcome for us?
Did it work?
What did it achieve?
Is this tactic now part of the DNA?
Did we show far too much respect for the chooks defence?
Likewise, too much respect for their attack from within their 20?
Can someone explain how this tactic could or may have produced a favourable outcome for us?
Who?
earl
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My take is that there are so few players available. There are not going to be many signings. Maybe we'll get some good ones for the following season post November like we picked up Api and IP.
Interestingly Pascoe apparently stated loaning out Gildart and Nofo had nothing to do with gaining cap relief.
gallagher
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You'd think that would be the main reason. Is he really in charge?
liltiger
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Just screams of fear, that we were afraid of them.
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