Wests Tigers Coaches

[tony soprano]

Brown nosers .
Seriously though, that's what I want hear.
I am hoping the COE has a positive effect on the players. I'm expecting some cool hairdos from the barber there.

Yeah, a lot of the players he coached in Australian team say the same.

Beau Ryan said the same. Mentioned flanno was a more players coach inferred sheens can be all about footy coach but think he knows has to be more flexible with players these days.

 

[tony soprano]

Madge is going to Raiders apparently. Anyone hear this?

Doubt it madge said not interested in assistant job.

 

[finnzo]

Yeah, a lot of the players he coached in Australian team say the same.

Beau Ryan said the same. Mentioned flanno was a more players coach inferred sheens can be all about footy coach but think he knows has to be more flexible with players these days.

The combination of benji and sheens might be the perfect mix benji the people person and sheens the brains

 

[weststigers]

The combination of benji and sheens might be the perfect mix benji the people person and sheens the brains

We also have 3 very attack minded individuals at the helm.

It might take time for it all to gel, but I’m confident we will score some points next year.

Our biggest problem will be depth, because we don’t have any.

 

[Earl]

We also have 3 very attack minded individuals at the helm.

It might take time for it all to gel, but I’m confident we will score some points next year.

Our biggest problem will be depth, because we don’t have any.

Our biggest problem has been a dud attack. I'm an optimist and delusional most of the time. I think there is a possibility our attack will improve.

I also think our forwards and outside backs bar injuries can do the job. My big concern is the spine excluding API.

Our forward depth though is terrible.

I'm praying some more juniors come through and kill it.

 

[weststigers]

Our biggest problem has been a dud attack. I'm an optimist and delusional most of the time. I think there is a possibility our attack will improve.

I also think our forwards and outside backs bar injuries can do the job. My big concern is the spine excluding API.

Our forward depth though is terrible.

I'm praying some more juniors come through and kill it.

Mate I think our juniors are 2-3 years off. End of 2024 is when we’ll see something from pathways.

Even then, you don’t really know who’s going to kick on.

Recruitment will be critical over the next couple of seasons.

 

[Earl]

Mate I think our juniors are 2-3 years off. End of 2024 is when we’ll see something from pathways.

Even then, you don’t really know who’s going to kick on.

Recruitment will be critical over the next couple of seasons.

Recruitment can be so hit and miss. API and IP are great signings but we've done this so poorly in the past.

I think Pole showed how juniors can come in and perform. Stef isn't old either.

 

[851]

Doubt it madge said not interested in assistant job.

Then he might be out of work for a very long time then, even the Warriors said we don't want him, and went with a rookie

 

[Halbrowne61]

Then he might be out of work for a very long time then, even the Warriors said we don't want him, and went with a rookie

Just reading Canberra are talking to him about a Raiders reunion. Could happen and maybe Sticky planning for his future.

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

I wonder how Sheens is actually going to coach the WT over the offseason?
Is there going to be something that stands out.
He has a reputation of playing as you train.
I would imagine training sessions will be upbeat.
I hope the players, especially the forwards become more physical eg. bigger, greater muscle definition and quicker.
It seemed that most teams had the edge over us in this area.
I am sure Sheens and Benji will look at getting the team to play a more expansive style of football.
To do this you have to earn the right to do so. The forwards in particular need to bigger, faster and more aggressive hitting the ball up and get good post impact metres. When they do this the offloads will come and quicker play the balls.
Our fullback and halves will do better supporting these aggressive forwards.
If we don't do this, our play makers will be like U8's running sideways against organised D. How many times did you see us doing this in 2022.
Papa is a perfect example of the type of players we need to recruit or develop.

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Interesting hearing Benji interview recently where Benji was pulling player videos together and will be sitting down with each player to review with them. He did make a point about focusing on their natural playing style.

I actually think if Benji can get it right some of the players by mid season could be very different to what we have seen from them for a while. Say mid season on purpose because they will need some match time to get the style flowing.

This is the only reason I'm excited about the coaching shift because I want to see some dynamic attacking style flowing for us - hate the deadpan league style Madge wanted us to play.

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

Just reading Canberra are talking to him about a Raiders reunion. Could happen and maybe Sticky planning for his future.

Good on him. If he goes hope it works out well. TBH if there was ever a team built on a Madge style game plan it's probably the Raiders and makes alot of sense.

 

[InBenjiWeTrust]

Interesting hearing Benji interview recently where Benji was pulling player videos together and will be sitting down with each player to review with them. He did make a point about focusing on their natural playing style.

I actually think if Benji can get it right some of the players by mid season could be very different to what we have seen from them for a while. Say mid season on purpose because they will need some match time to get the style flowing.

This is the only reason I'm excited about the coaching shift because I want to see some dynamic attacking style flowing for us - hate the deadpan league style Madge wanted us to play.

I hope that each player will be given their individual KPIs!
The obvious ones are:
- Nofoaluma's defence - I could be like "an improved positional game, reading of the attack etc."
- Brooks - short and long kicks, short passes, run break assists, try assists ;
- Forwards - line speed, tackling effectiveness, meters run, offloads etc.
- Backs - number of line breaks etc.

 

[BAGNF05]

I hope that each player will be given their individual KPIs!
The obvious ones are:
- Nofoaluma's defence - I could be like "an improved positional game, reading of the attack etc."
- Brooks - short and long kicks, short passes, run break assists, try assists ;
- Forwards - line speed, tackling effectiveness, meters run, offloads etc.
- Backs - number of line breaks etc.

The problem with that approach is that RL is a team game and you rely on your teammates to create you opportunities to get ‘stats’ like linebreaks, offloads etc. nothing happens in rugby league unless a team has built momentum, and it generally starts with forwards or big outside backs carrying the ball strongly. On the other side of the ball it is simply committing to the cause. Which is basically attitude. All WT KPI’s need to be based on attitude imo. Get that right and sign a few more players and we might have a club worth supporting.

 

[innsaneink]

Yeah, a lot of the players he coached in Australian team say the same.

Beau Ryan said the same. Mentioned flanno was a more players coach inferred sheens can be all about footy coach but think he knows has to be more flexible with players these days.

He is fascinating tousten to when he talks about footy

They used to do pre season coaches sessions for FC members, around 03 04 etc... Sheens was awesome to listen to

 

[Needaname]

Madge is going to Raiders apparently. Anyone hear this?

Probably follows Demp’s rhetoric that Tapine wants to be coached by Madge.

 

[weststigers]

Recruitment can be so hit and miss. API and IP are great signings but we've done this so poorly in the past.

I think Pole showed how juniors can come in and perform. Stef isn't old either.

The hit and miss can certainly be applied to juniors too. Maybe more so.

How many rookies are we going to bump to first grade that will help us get out of this situation in the next 2-3 years?

My guess is 1-3 per year show enough promise to crack the team. Not all of them are successful stepping up and need a couple more years in lower grades or they just don’t kick on for whatever reason.

We don’t have a Nanai, Sloane or Sualii sitting in our junior system.

We need to recruit some decent players with runs on the board to fill the void until our juniors can catch up.

You can’t stack the side with apprentices and expect them to learn anything other than getting flogged each week.

The very best rookies make it impossible not to be picked…those are the ones that we don’t have…yet. Confident it will come, but there are no obvious choices at this moment.

The last time we had gun juniors coming through was when Sheens was coach…Some work has already been done and hopefully we can recreate what we had to set us up for the future.

 

[cochise]

He is fascinating tousten to when he talks about footy

They used to do pre season coaches sessions for FC members, around 03 04 etc... Sheens was awesome to listen to

One of the most interesting people I have ever spoken to.

 

[tony soprano]

One of the most interesting people I have ever spoken to.

Lucky

 

[Earl]

The hit and miss can certainly be applied to juniors too. Maybe more so.

You are right but they don't kill your salary cap.

 

[weststigers]

You are right but they don't kill your salary cap.

Clubs must spend at least 95% of the salary cap.

There will always be highly paid players in a team regardless of whether they are juniors or recruited from outside...

I don't really understand where you're coming from.