2023 Expectations

Cobarcats said:
Practically every team in the top 8 have players that are superior in the physicality department.
They are stronger and faster than our lot.
I would like our trainers to address this over the off season.
Simply put, our players need to deveop better physiques, get stronger, faster and toughen up.
We are canon fodder to most opposition teams.
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there are 510 NRL players running around next year some of them are bound to be smaller, weaker and slower. Our selection committee doesn’t go looking for them, they find us.
 
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magpies forever said:
More than anything the minimum expectation should be that they do the basics right, compete for the ball, play as a team, run proper support plays, tactically kick and defend well, getting back on side quickly and damn well hang on to the ball.

With that basics improvement the wins will come more often. Thats all I ask.
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The training program to use is called “ focus on fundamentals “ and is as old as the hills.
Doing the little things well is the starting point, I think it’s called the one percenters these days.
Everything builds from there.
 
TYGA said:
The team next year even without any signings is light years better than what’s out there now. It’s no where near a finals team though.

1. Laurie
2. Nofa
3. Naden
4. Tupou/Toa
5. Maumalo
6. Douihei
7. Brooks
8. Utoikamanu
9. Api
10. Ofehengaue
11. Papalli
12. Matamua
13. Hastings
14. Pole
15. Rua
16. Musgrove
17. Tumeth

We need another edge second rower, centre and an experienced prop at a minimum next year. We need to attract talent similar to the Api and Papalli signings. In addition a few of these kids have to come through each year and move out some existing starters
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That would be a great squad hopefully sheens will pic Nadine in the centres where he should be
 
magpies forever said:
I think Maguire just wasnt able to develop players. Their skill sets didnt develop. That is a basic requirement isnt it? Was sick of hearing they trained well but didnt do it on the day.
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That’s a strange thing? I mean an accomplished head coach who doesn’t develop players’ skills. Really odd isn’t it?
I guess it’s similar to a career English teacher who at the end of the term, doesn’t have a student who can speak English.
 
This final position of 2022 has actually helped with my expectations of 2023.
For every year since we won the Premiership I would go into with the off-season with a hopeful positive view.
By that I mean, I’m not in anyway thinking that a premiership or even a top spot in the finals is happening that year but at least there is a feeling the team will improve.
I think since Ivan walked out on us. I can recall my excuses and reasons for that optimism occuring.
There were signs in 2018 that we were developing a United and committed culture within the group and with the inclusion of a couple of top tier players we would transform again. My thoughts after 2018. We developed a decent culture and defensive attitude that kept us competitive but ultimately we didn’t score enough points to make the 8. A bit like the sharks in 2011.
2019. Oh we were so close, it just came down to a lack of composure in some tight contests. We can train that into the side and we’ll get there. Points wise and defence were pretty decent that year. Competitive for the most part but loss the games we needed to win.
2020. Reunioned by COVID. All our hopes and dreams were crushed when our superstar 18 year olds whom we trumpeted as a recruiting win could no longer get the game time in order to continue to develop. Shorter season, also mean’t the year really only favoured the teams that had the squads that were ready for that year.
2021. Not close by any margin, but probably the youngest side in the comp. Scored enough points to sit in the top 8 but just failed to defend them. Tidy that side of the game up and we’ll be ok.
2022. Nothing to write home about in attack and defence. Some players who would like to resign with the club are starting to show some individual form but still making errors or the wrong decisions for the team.
So new coach next year, worst attack and defence in the comp, only one young player that looks capable of being part of a tier 1 team and half the team heading out the door.
Api / Papali’i are golden recruits but are performing as a result of solid players and structures around them. There is still every chance Api becomes the 2018 version of himself with a forward pack that is clueless when it receives the ball and a backline that doesn’t know how to set itself up for attack. Papali’i could become the tireless lock who spent all day and night tackling for the Warriors coz no one else was up to the task.
The only way is up. But optimism’s this year are low and no amount of fluff articles about this player training the house down or this recruit or this new system are going to make me believe we have anything other than a 16th or 17th placed team.
 
Needaname said:
This final position of 2022 has actually helped with my expectations of 2023.
For every year since we won the Premiership I would go into with the off-season with a hopeful positive view.
By that I mean, I’m not in anyway thinking that a premiership or even a top spot in the finals is happening that year but at least there is a feeling the team will improve.
I think since Ivan walked out on us. I can recall my excuses and reasons for that optimism occuring.
There were signs in 2018 that we were developing a United and committed culture within the group and with the inclusion of a couple of top tier players we would transform again. My thoughts after 2018. We developed a decent culture and defensive attitude that kept us competitive but ultimately we didn’t score enough points to make the 8. A bit like the sharks in 2011.
2019. Oh we were so close, it just came down to a lack of composure in some tight contests. We can train that into the side and we’ll get there. Points wise and defence were pretty decent that year. Competitive for the most part but loss the games we needed to win.
2020. Reunioned by COVID. All our hopes and dreams were crushed when our superstar 18 year olds whom we trumpeted as a recruiting win could no longer get the game time in order to continue to develop. Shorter season, also mean’t the year really only favoured the teams that had the squads that were ready for that year.
2021. Not close by any margin, but probably the youngest side in the comp. Scored enough points to sit in the top 8 but just failed to defend them. Tidy that side of the game up and we’ll be ok.
2022. Nothing to write home about in attack and defence. Some players who would like to resign with the club are starting to show some individual form but still making errors or the wrong decisions for the team.
So new coach next year, worst attack and defence in the comp, only one young player that looks capable of being part of a tier 1 team and half the team heading out the door.
Api / Papali’i are golden recruits but are performing as a result of solid players and structures around them. There is still every chance Api becomes the 2018 version of himself with a forward pack that is clueless when it receives the ball and a backline that doesn’t know how to set itself up for attack. Papali’i could become the tireless lock who spent all day and night tackling for the Warriors coz no one else was up to the task.
The only way is up. But optimism’s this year are low and no amount of fluff articles about this player training the house down or this recruit or this new system are going to make me believe we have anything other than a 16th or 17th placed team.
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We can go one better next year, 17th.
 
Spacecub said:
Havent been on here thanks to a month ban by our mods, anyone know what's going on with Stefano?
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Last I heard in a report was he broke his scaphoid, a small bone in the wrist.
I broke my scaphoid when I was in the Army and it took near 8wks to fully recover.
The problem with this particular bone injury is there is little blood supply to it which slows the healing process.
Bad breaks often require pinning.
Stefano will be fine and back for preseason training I would imagine.
"Welcome back" 👍
 
1. Laurie
2. Staines
3. Naden
4. Toa
5. Maumalo
6. Brown
7. Brooks
8. Utoikamanu
9. Api
10. Twal
11. Papalli
12. Martin
13. Hastings
14. Nathan Brown
15. Fafita
16. Musgrove
17. Offa / Bateman

Pole
Tumeth
Rua
Kepoa
Tupuo
Talau
Fa’amanou Brown
Blore

So based on POM and everything going right in those negotiations- potential team is….

Still not going to win a comp with that..
 
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