Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Jedi_Tiger]

Unless Sheens finds a new #7 whilst in England, he may not have a choice.

who is there for 2023 though over in u.k. ?

 

[pawsandclaws1]

At centre

He can't defend well, the inside centre catches a cold playing outside of him because he doesn't pass and his high bombs are effective when they land, his short kicking game not so much. Plus he is not that quick. Other than that, he has all the attributes of a 5/8.

 

[Lukic]

The only times we looked good last season were with Hastings in the line-up. I cannot for the life or me understand why we wouldn't re-sign him. He's great at 7 or 13. I'd prefer 7 because it's harder to find a class 7 than it is to get a good 13.

Deadset we went like 2-17 with Brooks in the team.

 

[stryker 69]

interesting the old Newcastle forum are starting to doubt Brooks to Newcastle is happening

Trying to derail the decision most likely.
Id be filthy if my poor performing team was bringing him in as a saviour.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Trying to derail the decision most likely.
Id be filthy if my poor performing team was bringing him in as a saviour.

they thought it was a done deal the other day... we will see

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

The only times we looked good last season were with Hastings in the line-up. I cannot for the life or me understand why we wouldn't re-sign him. He's great at 7 or 13. I'd prefer 7 because it's harder to find a class 7 than it is to get a good 13.

Deadset we went like 2-17 with Brooks in the team.

Sheens probably wants Brooks 7 AD 6 and happy to let Hastings go and pick up a 13

 

[Demps]

who is there for 2023 though over in u.k. ?

There'd be some options.

The reports saying he's looking for 7s whilst helping out the Italian side.

Might not be doing anything but catching up with friends.

This part of the year is always interesting...

Might end up with no one and roll out the Jacko and AD pairing with a journeyman like Albert Kelly as backup.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

The only times we looked good last season were with Hastings in the line-up. I cannot for the life or me understand why we wouldn't re-sign him. He's great at 7 or 13. I'd prefer 7 because it's harder to find a class 7 than it is to get a good 13.

Deadset we went like 2-17 with Brooks in the team.

He hasn't re-signed. I don't believe he has demonstrated loyalty to the club which resurrected his NRL career. We have fantastic options in Matamua and Faagutu moving forward. We should not get into a bidding war for him or Doueihi.

 

[stryker 69]

Good to see he has waited until October to get off his arse and sort out the halfback situation.
I believe he will start working on upgrading the pack in February.

 

[Blocker1963]

Brooks is gone, best thing for him and the club, you have to give it to him, the other 3 left and he stayed, at least he showed loyalty, it just hasn't worked our behind an under performing Team. Hasting is the one they need to keep, when he was at 7 he was the only one constantly talking and directing the Team, he would be a massive loss.

 

[tiger_one]

What's Buzz sayin'?

 

[pawsandclaws1]

It looks like we're letting go of Brooks and a few need to come to terms with this information..

💔If

It won't change my opinion on Doueihi or Hastings. If Brooks chooses to leave I am happy for him to play out his career at the Knights. George Williams would be a fine replacement for him.

 

[Demps]

It won't change my opinion on Doueihi or Hastings. If Brooks choses to leave I am happy for him to play out his career at the Knights. George Williams would be a fine replacement for him.

You've stuck by your man through some hard times.

This is apparently the third time he's tried to leave this club and hopefully his wish is granted.

Congrats on your loyalty.

Let's see what happens next.

 

[sleeve]

It looks like we're letting go of Brooks and a few need to come to terms with this information..

💔

The comments are not about Brooks going, it,s about AD ,bought as a FB,and was hopless, tried at centre, and was hopless, tried at 1/2 played 50% average and 50% terrible. Hastings has talent , but too slow for a half. You really think we can get anywhere near the top 8 with this pairing?
Time will tell !

 

[Cobarcats]

Brooks is gone, best thing for him and the club, you have to give it to him, the other 3 left and he stayed, at least he showed loyalty, it just hasn't worked our behind an under performing Team. Hasting is the one they need to keep, when he was at 7 he was the only one constantly talking and directing the Team, he would be a massive loss.

I'm sure good money had some part to play in Brooks loyalty.

 

[Demps]

The comments are not about Brooks going, it,s about AD ,bought as a FB,and was hopless, tried at centre, and was hopless, tried at 1/2 played 50% average and 50% terrible. Hastings has talent , but too slow for a half. You really think we can get anywhere near the top 8 with this pairing?
Time will tell !

My opinion... is we'll get further with that pairing than any other option including Brooks

 

[stryker 69]

What's Buzz sayin'?

“Schooner of new thanks”

 

[Garrry]

Phil Gould once said 'you sign them all and worry about fitting them in later'

Seems he may have bitten off more then he can chew here

The salary cap has been raised

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I remember him touching the ball multiple times when he played 7 and not setting much up at all. It would have been preferable for the team for him to touch the ball less. I guess Sheens sees it this way as well.

Haha righto mate, let's have a look:

Jacko plays 11 games at half:

3 wins
0 tries
176 team points scored
6 forced dropouts
6 try assists
2 linebreaks
21 tackle breaks
1410 running metres
303 PCM
5 offloads
178 tackles
20 missed tackles (90% tackle efficiency)

Brooks in 17 games (7 at half, 10 at 5/8)

2 wins (0 @ half, 2 @ 5/8)
2 tries (0 @ half, 2 @ 5/8)
226 team points scored (84 @ half, 142 @ 5/8)
7 forced dropouts (1 @ half, 6 @ 5/8)
10 try assists (3 @ half, 7 @ 5/8)
3 linebreaks (1 @ half, 2 @ 5/8)
22 tackle breaks (7 @ half, 15 @ 5/8)
1258 running metres (512 @ half, 746 @ 5/8)
236 PCM (96 @ half, 140 @ 5/8)
11 offloads (8 @ half, 3 @ 5/8)
402 tackles (157 @ half, 245 @ 5/8)
75 missed tackles (27 @ half 85% TE, 48 @ 5/8 83% TE) 84% overall tackle efficiency

Looks to me that Hastings is a far more effective halfback that Brooks, and Brooks best football is at 5/8 which is what has long been said by many. You can pro-rata all his halfback stats to get the 11 game average for him and Hastings still outperforms him, sans offloads.

I know you're going through the stages of grief about Brooks potentially going, but the team is a better attacking outfit with Jacko at half. The results and stats this season say that.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Haha righto mate, let's have a look:

Jacko plays 11 games at half:

3 wins
0 tries
176 team points scored
6 forced dropouts
6 try assists
2 linebreaks
21 tackle breaks
1410 running metres
303 PCM
5 offloads
178 tackles
20 missed tackles (90% tackle efficiency)

Brooks in 17 games (7 at half, 10 at 5/8)

2 wins (0 @ half, 2 @ 5/8)
2 tries (0 @ half, 2 @ 5/8)
226 team points scored (84 @ half, 142 @ 5/8)
7 forced dropouts (1 @ half, 6 @ 5/8)
10 try assists (3 @ half, 7 @ 5/8)
3 linebreaks (1 @ half, 2 @ 5/8)
22 tackle breaks (7 @ half, 15 @ 5/8)
1258 running metres (512 @ half, 746 @ 5/8)
236 PCM (96 @ half, 140 @ 5/8)
11 offloads (8 @ half, 3 @ 5/8)
402 tackles (157 @ half, 245 @ 5/8)
75 missed tackles (27 @ half 85% TE, 48 @ 5/8 83% TE) 84% overall tackle efficiency

Looks to me that Hastings is a far more effective halfback that Brooks, and Brooks best football is at 5/8 which is what has long been said by many. You can pro-rata all his halfback stats to get the 11 game average for him and Hastings still outperforms him, sans offloads.

The team is a better attacking outfit with Jacko at half. The results and stats this season say that.

All the stats in the world won't change the fact that Sheens believes he is a 13. It is a fact.