Mental Health Discussion

[old_man_tiger]

Have had a shit couple of weeks in life and footy, but have spent more quality time with a few people I care about, with no devices or anything, just human interaction, and it helps. Shout out to the forum. A lot of the regulars here are a great passive support, with a lot of common sense and wisdom.

 

[Harvey]

I find the players incompetence strangely therapeutic

 

[tiger_one]

f/b threw this article up and I was again shocked at the loss of another champion sportsman (even though it's a few years ago):

Heavenly Birthday to former English Wicket-keeper, the late David Leslie Bairstow (Bluey)

*Father of present English
wicket-keeper/ batsman Johnny Bairstow..
*In his young age, Bairstow attracted the attention of local football club Bradford City, who were just emerging from one of the most tumultuous periods in the club’s history, the 1960s, when City had to twice apply for re-election to the Football League.
By the age of 19, Bairstow had signed professional terms with City, who were seeking to re-climb the leagues at that time under the management of Jimmy Wheeler and, later, Bryan Edwards. He was already attracting interest from Yorkshire CCC about pursuing a cricketing career but for now, had opted to try his hand at professional football.
The 1971-72 season, a difficult one for the Bantams, was when Bairstow would emerge in the professional ranks for the first time.
*He played only 4 tests & 21 odis for England as Bob Taylor & Paul Downton were preferred over him by the selectors more..
*Though in those International outings,
He took 12 catches in test and stumped 1.
*And, took 17 catches with 4 stumpings in odis..
But his domestic record was more sound .
He played for Yorkshire in county cricket.
*His stats for Yorkshire in FC :-
12912 Runs
427 Matches
597 Innings
112 NO
67 50s
9 100s
26.62 bat Avg
145 HS
903 Catches
128 Stumpings( 5th best for Yorkshire)
6 wkts
32 bowl Avg
Total 1031 dismissals for Yorkshire (3rd best of them)
*He also played for Griqualand West FC
For them, stats are :-
596 Runs
10 Matches
20 Innings
0 NO
106 HS
4 50s
1 100s
29.8 bat avg
3 wkts
38.67 bowl Avg
18 Catches
3 Stumpings
After his retirement, he became a popular radio commentator..
At the age of 46, he was sadly, found hanging at his home in 1998. He had been suffering from extreme depression due to financial crisis compounded due to his wife's illness.

 

[BZN]

winning or losing at football is only a small part of my depression
my main thing is being crapped on by people that i think i can trust
maybe its partly my fault though by being very naive

 

[tiger_one]

winning or losing at football is only a small part of my depression
my main thing is being crapped on by people that i think i can trust
maybe its partly my fault though by being very naive

Champion @BZN, mate, we all learn as we go.
Take care.

 

[krissy]

winning or losing at football is only a small part of my depression
my main thing is being crapped on by people that i think i can trust
maybe its partly my fault though by being very naive

If people you trust crap on you, the fault is with them not you, you are not responsible for other peoples actions. Hold your head up knowing that you would not do that to someone.
Depression is a horrible thing but you can get through it, talk to professionals & to trusted friends & family. If doctors recommend medication, take it, there is no shame in it nor is there an award for toughing it out without medication.
If you can’t see you get glasses without a second thought, depression medication should be treated the same, no shame.
I hope the dark clouds clear for you soon.

 

[PJ2]

I reserve the right to verbally abuse tigers players. They put on our jersey, they have to be ready for it

 

[426Tlgerland]

Mental heath is a real issue , you can’t play games with it , if some one does have issues , well without some help the end result is pretty sad , ( Paul Green ) bloody sad , and many more like him , Guys if your feeling a bit off have a chat to a good mate , I’m sure he will be there for you , if not call one of the phone lines they don’t know who you are so you can spill your feelings with out an issue , the people on the other end are there to listen , please don’t do it alone as it won’t work

 

[Tim Sheens]

winning or losing at football is only a small part of my depression
my main thing is being crapped on by people that i think i can trust
maybe its partly my fault though by being very naive

Not your fault, that others thought of close enough to trust, then crap on you. Strictly on them.

So hold your head as high you can, no matter how low others may stoop.

 

[426Tlgerland]

BNZ , people can Show support in different ways , and if you are feeling a little let down , chat to another friend , Football and winning and loosing should never be part or your story , if you do play and are un happy with the game sit out a season , you may be better for it , I hope you are ok and please talk to a different person if others are not helping , stay strong my tiger friend

 

[old_man_tiger]

winning or losing at football is only a small part of my depression
my main thing is being crapped on by people that i think i can trust
maybe its partly my fault though by being very naive

Personally feel that being a person who tries to see good in others is not a bad thing. Equally, through our mistakes we can learn where we need to draw the line. Nearly everything can have a silver lining, hang in there bzn.

 

[supercoach]

CTE will eventually kill off body contact sports like rugby league. No insurance company will go near the sport in a few years. Paul Green is just the tip of the iceberg. Had a very close friend die this year of alzheimers who was only 72, he played 1st grade for Wests back in the late sixties and early seventies. The medical people said there was a good chance it was a result of head knocks. Steve Mortimer and Mario F are suffering problems.

Okay new rules help but every game there accidental head knocks and head clashes that will never be able to prevent. Fingers crossed the game will survive a decade or two, to I clock off

 

[tony soprano]

I guess still could of spoke up about it although not much they can do.

If he spoke up and tackled it similar to James Grahame head knocks podcast they're is life style choices he could of made like not drinking and healthier life style choices that may have eased symptoms.

Hard kocked footy players need to seek professional help.

 

[earl]

CTE will eventually kill off body contact sports like rugby league.

I was going to say I don't know how basically all combat sports and sports like League are still going.

My mum has a friend who is a scientist and has done research in this field and she told me a little hit in the head can cause horrific damage.

 

[Demps]

I was going to say I don't know how basically all combat sports and sports like League are still going.

My mum has a friend who is a scientist and has done research in this field and she told me a little hit in the head can cause horrific damage.

💯

 

[bathursttiger1]

I was going to say I don't know how basically all combat sports and sports like League are still going.

My mum has a friend who is a scientist and has done research in this field and she told me a little hit in the head can cause horrific damage.

I know that’s true from a family member.

 

[upthetigers]

So sad the mind is very fragile repeated head knocks can't be good. When I was about 17 I had an accident on my bike, went flying over the handle bars and blacked out for a second. I reckon it screwed me mentally my mental health took a drastic hit from that point.

 

[Cobarcats]

CTE will eventually kill off body contact sports like rugby league. No insurance company will go near the sport in a few years. Paul Green is just the tip of the iceberg. Had a very close friend die this year of alzheimers who was only 72, he played 1st grade for Wests back in the late sixties and early seventies. The medical people said there was a good chance it was a result of head knocks. Steve Mortimer and Mario F are suffering problems.

Okay new rules help but every game there accidental head knocks and head clashes that will never be able to prevent. Fingers crossed the game will survive a decade or two, to I clock off

I'm unsure if it will eventually die mate. Greeny did play before all this scrutiny and precautions relating to concussion started.
If it continues in the future when players started their careers when current protocols begun then we'll probably have tighter restrictions like more reserves and not returning after failing first Concession test.... Maybe the players will be asked to sign indemnity forms before playing. 🤔 Burton type headgear??

 

[tig_prmz]

I'm unsure if it will eventually die mate. Greeny did play before all this scrutiny and precautions relating to concussion started.
If it continues in the future when players started their careers when current protocols begun then we'll probably have tighter restrictions like more reserves and not returning after failing first Concession test.... Maybe the players will be asked to sign indemnity forms before playing. 🤔 Burton type headgear??

Indemnity forms won't do much legally and headgears dont reduce severity or frequency of head knocks.

I think more studies need to be done on training to avoid concussions.. boxers for eg spend a lot of time on dodging contacts and having the awareness to get their head away from situations. Same way I think Rugby League players could use training like that, especially with their tackling technique.

Cameron Smith made a living out of catching and wrestling rather than tacking head on. That's where it should move to.