Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Telltails]

Mate I'm certain that Tim already knows what it is from what I gather hasn't he spent the best part of 30 years swimming in the sea of accountability and who's to say at this stage players are and maybe being kept in the dark at where their future's might lie that's why they have manages I assume. Only my opinion but I feel that Sheens has had his eye casted over the playing group now for 12 months and learning about the abilities and character within all players now leading to the process he's embarked on now, only time will tell and perhaps a bit of tough love might be the magic fairy dust that brings out the best in our bigger names

Tough love might work in teams that have competition for positions and quality leaders who set the standards. At this point we still don't know who plays where in the spine other than Api K.
I hope your right about Sheens but he is going to have to pull more than one rabbit out of hat turn things around.

 

[Bucko73]

Tough love might work in teams that have competition for positions and quality leaders who set the standards. At this point we still don't know who plays where in the spine other than Api K.
I hope your right about Sheens but he is going to have to pull more than one rabbit out of hat turn things around.

100% as I said only time will tell but at least being proactive in the player market is a better plan than being reactive after no player recruitment

 

[Tim Sheens]

Nah, I think they were counting Talau and one other who hasn’t yet been announced.

I’d heard from someone earlier this year that Apisalome Saukuru was guaranteed a Top 30 spot in 2023 as part of the last contract he signed so I reckon he’ll be announced as the 27th member of the 30 soon enough.

Yeah, could be him. Talau was long simply a formality, with the recently departed Musgrove and Gildart adding up to the then 29 quoted by Sheens and Pascoe.

 

[Champ1]

Playing the devil's advocate here, there has been on occasions where Rothfield has reported things and it eventuates. Worst best kept secrets as they say.

What , his mothers birthday , Cobs?

 

[Cobarcats]

What , his mothers birthday , Cobs?

He was the first to break the rumour that Staines was signing was he not.
He said that madge was was not going to see the week out, I cant remember my own birthday 🤣

 

[88]

The whole situation of staying within the cap with recruitment just dumbfounds me. I recall a fe years ago we were looking to recruitment someone (May of been Latrell M) and our club said we have to be careful as we had to show that the offered contract sits within the cap and we cant try to recruit someone else with that allocated money - even if had not been accepted. Yet other clubs seem to recruit many, yet cant register the contracts due to contract fund totals being over limit, yet the recruitment stands, is not nullified by the NRL as over the limit, they the club in question gets time later to sort out the salary cap mess wiht no penalty- it stinks

Yeah, something doesn’t make sense. Why don’t clubs just make a play for players like Kikau whose contracts still haven’t been registered. Offer more for them and a firm contract and poach them from under the Dog’s nose. Stop the bulldogs and Gould with their sneaky strategy of overreaching on their cap and trying to secure players then trying to move other squad players on / retiring them early to fit their new recruits in.

 

[Love_the_WestsTigers]

Those last 4 signings are going to be definite upgrades IMO. First grade ready front rower (Klemmer), second rower, centre (TBA). The mutual option for 2024 would be the reason WT may seek to ship Maumalo off early, particularly with some young outside backs coming through the ranks. Interesting Saukuru only has a DC for 2023. Wouldn't surprise if Seyfarth wasnt retained either beyond 2023.

I honestly expected and hoped Seyfarth would kick on but it doesn’t look likely at all.
I was hoping to see a Nathan Brown in him, initially looked ok but that’s where it stopped.

 

[Love_the_WestsTigers]

Why is it that the NRL allows this .. "they're prepared to take paycut" .. bullshit coming out of the Chooks everytime they sign a major player .. !!

Oh boy, don’t get us started.
Maybe we need to sack our front and back office and get them Rorters people instead to run our club. Very clever accountants.

 

[Love_the_WestsTigers]

Agree.
Promote from within.

I don’t think us fans and supporters have the tolerance or desire to pick up another spoon.
In the short term we have to sign quality/Proven players and develop/promote our crop slowly.

 

[twentyforty]

Playing the devil's advocate here, there has been on occasions where Rothfield has reported things and it eventuates. Worst best kept secrets as they say.

They often eventuate. He loses some credibility when he goes too far by putting a time line on his prediction. He had Madge going next week for a year. His longevity has earned him some trust in the footy community, but his dreams of being the next Nostradamus are just plain folly.
He has to get that out of his game 🤣

 

[rex2ce]

Dangerous game. Not wanting to extend Hastings is a worry if you ask me.

Hastings expected to be picked for England in the World Cup and along with Douihe expected their value to rise because of RLWC, its their decision to wait until after Nov 1.
I read this info on this forum

 

[boonboon]

Just because players sign on Nov 1 doesn't mean they want to or will. If your Douehi for example coming off a few games back from injury in the team coming last your more likely to want to wait till mid next year to de ide so y I u can show off your skills fully fit with hopefully a better performing team and that applies if it's Tigers or someone else

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

He was the first to break the rumour that Staines was signing was he not.
He said that madge was was not going to see the week out, I cant remember my own birthday 🤣

He was the first one to say Tim sheens will be first grade coach

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Hastings expected to be picked for England in the World Cup and along with Douihe expected their value to rise because of RLWC, its their decision to wait until after Nov 1.
I read this info on this forum

We've got them both till end of 23. By that time, we will have very good options to replace them probably at lower $.

 

[Demps]

We've got them both till end of 23. By that time, we will have very good options to replace them probably at lower $.

Famous last words.... 😀

 

[Bucko73]

We've got them both till end of 23. By that time, we will have very good options to replace them probably at lower $.

Geez I hope we can get it done with Jacko showed real leadership qualities that this club desperately needed but one can only start to think he may have his nose put out of joint in regards to the Madge sacking and the shift to 13 from his beloved 7 and being told this is where he belongs. Hopefully his new found maturity and sense of purpose will get him fully back on board in his belief in the club and its future direction. A real chance of captain in waiting and a necessary component of the spine in driving us onwards and upwards.

 

[tony soprano]

rothfield has a personal agenda with sheens now no longer gets direct info from Sheens. His info now would be player manager driven

 

[cktiger]

Geez I hope we can get it done with Jacko showed real leadership qualities that this club desperately needed but one can only start to think he may have his nose put out of joint in regards to the Madge sacking and the shift to 13 from his beloved 7 and being told this is where he belongs. Hopefully his new found maturity and sense of purpose will get him fully back on board in his belief in the club and its future direction. A real chance of captain in waiting and a necessary component of the spine in driving us onwards and upwards.

You’d have to expect he’d want a substantial increase if he has to play at 13 and Brooks somehow stays.
He would effectively be playing lock and halfback… expected to do the tough stuff in defence and be the brains in attack.

 

[Tiger_Fanatic3]

Bulldogs' GM Phil Gould's $1M fight to keep Burton.

Multiple $1 million contracts will be waiting for Matt Burton when he returns from the World Cup - a figure that will blow Canterbury’s current offer out of the water.

If Phil Gould wants to lock up Matt Burton for the long term then the Bulldogs’ general manager better get ready to dig deep.

While most seem to be anticipating that Burton will end up staying at Canterbury to play under Cameron Ciraldo beyond 2023, it can be revealed rivals are still lining up to register their interest and make sure Burton is at least offered his market value.

And the fact is Burton will return from the World Cup in the coming weeks as rugby league’s next million dollar man in waiting.

Burton, 22, is on a reported $500,000 for this season but is tipped to command north of $1 million-a-season no matter where he signs to play in 2024.

It was speculated recently that the man with the biggest boot in the NRL was set to sign a four-year extension to stay at the Dogs worth $3 million ($750,000-a-season) - but that is well short of what Burton will realistically get.

In the wake of Cameron Munster recommitting to the Melbourne Storm, Burton has taken over top billing as the most wanted five-eighth still on the market for the 2024 NRL season.

That’s even ahead of the likes of South Sydney’s Cody Walker and Parramatta’s Dylan Brown who are also negotiating new deals.

It’s no secret that the Storm were ready to go after Burton if they didn’t secure Munster.

Naturally battling clubs like the Wests Tigers and Newcastle always get thrown up as possible destinations when players are looking to up their price.

But Burton is such an outrageously gifted talent that he would walk into pretty much any side in the comp, while still commanding top dollar even if he wanted to chase a premiership at one of the top clubs.

Burton’s agent David Riolo did not want to speculate about those possibilities but confirmed other clubs had already made their interest known.

Riolo was very careful not to disrespect the Bulldogs, and said at this stage he didn’t want it to become a distraction while Burton was in England on Australian duties.

“Matt is obviously overseas enjoying his first World Cup and as soon as he is back we will sort through it,” Riolo said.

“He is happy at the Dogs.

“He likes the new coach and he gets on with everyone there, so there is no issue for him at Canterbury.”

He would not go into detail about outside interest he had already received.

“I don’t want to speculate,” he said.

“Look, I understand there is a lot of interest and we will work through that.”

Asked if the deal was likely to be done before next season, Riolo added: “Generally with a player of his calibre and someone on the salary he is going to command those deals are done in good time because clubs need to know budgets.

“And if you have Matt Burton in your budget and you don’t get him, well, you have got a fair bit of money to spend, don’t you?

“So you can’t wait to the end of the year obviously because there won’t be any money left in people’s caps.

“He is a good kid. He is happy where he is.

“There is no reason why the Dogs won’t have a good shot at him.

“But it’s just he’s got to work through the process.” (DT)

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

rothfield has a personal agenda with sheens now no longer gets direct info from Sheens. His info now would be player manager driven

the info is probably from player managers to rothfield
Brooks - You will be getting a pay cut and playing 6, he probably has the Edgar's as he want smore cash
Douhie - You will be playing centre, he has the Edgar's as he wants to play 6
Hastings - You will be playing 13 he has the Edgar's as he wants to play 7

It may well be highly likely 2024 we do lose all 3