Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[trentrunciman]

No news on Moses decision yet it seems?

 

[Magpie_Magic]

No to players like Napa, Brown I personally would look to Taupau if we are going after any big men with experience if the price is right

Losing Marty and JAC were massive failures.

 

[Dennisspicer1]

Disagree. They went Super League and didn’t give two hoots about the traditional clubs.

Cant beleive we have members of the forum talking up Dylan & Kyle.

Do they want to go for a second spoon or what.

 

[tigermate]

Tigers haven't made any public comment about Moses or anyone else this off-season.

Yet every paper is reporting it - more so than the dogs.

 

[dazza65]

Media loves WT
Re MM, we keep quiet for a change - it doesn't matter.
They report it because it suits their agenda (clicks) :
1. If we sign MM we have paid huge overs and they spend months on that
2. We don't sign MM and we have missed out AGAIN because no-one wants to go to the club in crisis - and they spend months on that

Its a win- win for the gutter crawlers.

 

[2041]

Wow.

MM to then Flanno - geez talk about getting a clubs rejects whilst they beat us to the primary target.

Flanno game style isn't suited to Sheens/Benji style. He is basically a Hastings model but smaller & takes the line on alot less. He isn't an attacking minded half.

- Flanno isn't a setup/controller, he needs structure setup for him to then benefit from things.
- He isn't a runner of the ball. He isn't an organiser and is more of a link man which in Sheens mould doesn't work, Sheens wants his halves to take the line on & play what's infront of them.
- If we look at basic stats over 60+ games he is a 35% try assist & 30% Line Drop merchant per game which is less than Brooks by a gap and he touches the ball more than Brooks per game. His effectiveness rating in an attacking style isn't high.
- His upside is in defence where he has 50% less misses than Brooks despite his attempts being similar over last 3yrs.

Honestly if we are looking at Flanno it should only be as a backup low cost option which I couldn't see happening. We would be better off keeping Brooks/AD as our halves options.

Flanagan is outright useless. If he didn't have a famous name and hadn't once jagged a ridiculous contract from a club that ought to know better he'd have been out of first grade two years ago, most probably playing for a second-tier club in England. If we sign him I will be absolutely livid - talk about making the club a laughing stock.

 

[Don Kershane]

Gus did say that the leading up to Christmas should be exciting for the bulldogs fans.. so they got him?

No-each member to be sent pokie coupons to be used at Laundy pubs.

 

[Spartan117]

Losing Marty and JAC were massive failures.

Thanks Jason Taylor and Pascoe

 

[twentyforty]

Not really. Just saying what are our options should we miss out on MM

Kyle does remind me of Brooks though, ability but confidence driven player.
He was looking good till the Roosters shafted him and he hasn’t been the same since.
Form is temporary only, just remember that.

I agree Flanagan’s best footy is ahead of him, but we need a “take no prisoners” kind of 7 if Brooks plays 6?
I’d be thinking someone like Taaffe could work well with Brooks at 7? Then again, maybe he’s not as good at another club? He has Souths heritage, being related to Longbottom.

 

[tigermate]

Media loves WT
Re MM, we keep quiet for a change - it doesn't matter.
They report it because it suits their agenda (clicks) :
1. If we sign MM we have paid huge overs and they spend months on that
2. We don't sign MM and we have missed out AGAIN because no-one wants to go to the club in crisis - and they spend months on that

Its a win- win for the gutter crawlers.

Perhaps however - Gus has said Moses will probably stay at eels and they have not given Moses any offer. And that has been reported in the media.

And we all know he is trying to sign him. If they miss out they wont look as bad as us.

We can go round in circles - main point is yes the Tigers have done better than the Latrell situation but they are still significantly behind the better clubs at how they negotiate. Someone has talked to the media about our interest in MM rather than just do it on the sly like Gus.

I hope we sign him but if we don't we all probably have different opinions about the brand damage it does to us as a club by missing out again to the dogs.

Some people will say it doesn't matter and it's good that we were open about it - others will say it's another big name that chose another club and makes it harder for us to recruit big players.

I think it's better to do it like Gus because it doesn't upset the current roster and also it means if you miss out than the next person you target doesn't feel like second choice.

Look at the Ciraldo situation - seriously how would another coach come in knowing they were second choice - and not just second but like not even considered until someone else pulled out. Very difficult.

Anyway just my opinion.

 

[jirskyr]

Yet every paper is reporting it - more so than the dogs.

Who cares what the paper is reporting?

If you are a supporter who reacts to, and is embarrassed by, everything reported in the papers - you might as well give up until Tigers are a long-term finals prospect, because struggling teams are never outside of the speculation.

 

[Tucker]

Look at the Ciraldo situation - seriously how would another coach come in knowing they were second choice - and not just second but like not even considered until someone else pulled out. Very difficult.

Yep and that’s how we ended up with old Sheensy aided by a total greenhorn.

 

[sleeve]

Losing Marty and JAC were massive failures.

Marty is over the hill, and JAC was not a priority when we needed forwards, a spine, ans some outside backs to feed him.

 

[Odessa]

The Fresh Prince 🤴🏽

Of Bel-Air?

 

[tigermate]

Who cares what the paper is reporting?

If you are a supporter who reacts to, and is embarrassed by, everything reported in the papers - you might as well give up until Tigers are a long-term finals prospect, because struggling teams are never outside of the speculation.

I'm insinuating that people in our club leak to the media and not just leak, but leak the wrong narratives which don't serve us - whereas other clubs not as much - which I can only assume from the amount and content put out by the media.

There is a difference between pure speculation by the media and speculation based on what we are giving them.

I am only stating this because I want us to get the best results possible and I think Canterbury are beating us at the moment off the field. Hope I'm wrong though.

 

[clontarfkid]

i dont understand why Kyle is on the outer,every KOE game this year i watched he had the game by the scruff of the neck

His surname doesnt help
Has created huge expectations..like Pearce/Hastings..which are often fulfilled a little later in their career
If we were to lose Douhi and Brooks end 23,as expected ...hed be in the mix of 3 halves I wld buy to replace them..butnot my first choice which is Williams

 

[Kaito]

Does my head in how dogs are
tied to elite players, I'm perplexed.
A team that ran last for 2 seasons
in a row, and just above us last year,
playing out of a shed in Belmore
with a rookie coach? Gus/Laundie
give me 'nothing to see here' vibes.

They seem to have this ability to
tap contracted/unwanted players
on the shoulder too, It's very sus.
His grandstanding and links
with the media shits me. Head
of football at a club but no conflict
of interest there apparently. To
think he doesn't get inside info
from little birdies on movements
and the market before anything
hits the public stand is very naive.
Bloke would lie to his mother's face
in order to get what he wanted smh

 

[Magpie_Magic]

I think the bigger picture is the dogs are on the slide as a club with no way out.

 

[earl]

main point is yes the Tigers have done better than the Latrell situation but they are still significantly behind the better clubs at how they negotiate. Someone has talked to the media about our interest in MM rather than just do it on the sly like Gus.

How are we behind other clubs in relation to how we negotiate ?

If you are talking about the media I don't see an issue at all. I read on my phone today that Canberra were preparing to offer David Fifita a big contract if he didn't sign with the Titans.

Are we therefore ahead of Canberra. We signed IP from Parra and it was reported they low balled him. Same as Mahoney. Are we ahead of Parra ?

I don't get the criticism and I don't see how it matters anyway in that all that matters is on field results.

 

[earl]

I am only stating this because I want us to get the best results possible and I think Canterbury are beating us at the moment off the field

So we are behind Canterbury in relation to signing news in the media. Just state that you are correct why focus on Canterbury ? What about every other team in the comp ?