Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[happy_tiger]

Thank god we aren't arguing how wonderful Brooks ...Hastings ...AD are again

 

[Fainu Brothers]

😴😴😴 signings and rumours thread

 

[Tiga]

Thank god we aren't arguing how wonderful Brooks ...Hastings ...AD are again

I wish we could, but sadly...

 

[leichhardtjunior]

I'm very confused by these comments. Were you not, in the previous post, saying that legal action would have set a tone of management supporting the players and we should have in fact "kicked stones"?

Nope.
I’m saying you’re a stone kicking ‘fan’ and management is having a crack.

 

[Tiga]

Sure but even that only takes him to 5 wins from 16 appearances. That’s not even 33%. He played halfback when we scored 12 points in three games against Manly, Canterbury and the Warriors.

They were combos getting to know each other, trying plays & it was beginning to gel. Beating top teams by a point is belief. Don't stop trying.

 

[leichhardtjunior]

Anyway I’m out v here.
Merry Xmas, cheer & positivity to one and all 😂
Go the Tiges 💪

 

[bptiger 0]

BuT Wer'E one oF ThE few ClubS tHaT mAkE a pRoFit

But we don’t spent , check that out

 

[teddy23]

How about you leave the Jackson Hastings talks in the Jackson Hastings thread?

 

[bptiger 0]

How about we forget all about HASTINGS, as he no longer plays for us , regardless of if he was pushed or he walked himself .
Let’s talk about those who will be there this year

 

[jadtiger]

I am sure there will be a plethora of Brooks threads over the next few months,some started by the bum kickers and the others by the bum kissers

 

[twentyforty]

I suppose it comes down to the interpretation of success. How many finals series Tiges in since 2005? And consecutive finals series? Maguire was there for 3 years and each year worse than the previous. I don't think anyone expects immediate success, but definitely improvement season upon season, and consistency

I guess what you’re saying is Maguire was the problem and regardless of what we do, victory/improvement is ours now that we’re rid of the problem?
I think there are more important elements to goal setting than simply removing impediments. Assuming Madge was the reason for our poor performance. It doesn’t make sense to me, because he always seemed more focussed on winning than anybody?

 

[Tiga]

Agreed. I personally like Hastings but we were hardly a powerhouse when he played. Overall we nudged up from abysmal to woeful when he played.

Even if here was a powerhouse, he couldn't do it by himself. There were limitations around him. There isn't any quality halfbacks on the market, at least none to replace him, and to swap him for an ageing forward just doesn't make sense

 

[Tiga]

I guess what you’re saying is Maguire was the problem and regardless of what we do, victory/improvement is ours now that we’re rid of the problem?
I think there are more important elements to goal setting than simply removing impediments. Assuming Madge was the reason for our poor performance. It doesn’t make sense to me, because he always seemed more focussed on winning than anybody?

You're making an assumption and it's incorrect. Victory/improvement will be expected from the next coach. Coaches live and die by the results sword. It was not entirely his fault but 3 increasingly bad season results aint gonna hold you in good stead. Focussed on winning he might have been but it did not translate to wins

 

[Spartan117]

The two big signings did not get over the line until Sheens was on board. Madge couldn't land anyone until Sheens arrived

This was in tandem. Give Madge the credit he deserves.

Both Api and Papi have strong relationships with Madge.


Check.the dates

 

[Odessa]

I liked Hastings as a player - I’m just pointing out the facts.

Good player but he is just no Luke Brooks

 

[crazycat]

I'm sure they might have made peace these days but Heino's position was untenable at the Tigers. Robbie at the time could not forgive Heino for not diving on the ball in the final against the Roosters. He refused to ever talk to him again. My source on this is solid.

Which game was that?

I remember watching Roosters vs Tigers when Fittler took over coaching there.... Honestly it was a fun game to watch. The Anasta field goal attempt where it hits the crossbar, the final where Roosters give up on Field goals and get a 50m try. They earned that win. (it wasn't a finals game from memory but left us at 9th/knocked us out. )

Otherwise trying to think what game your mentioning... I can't think of a finals game with us vs Easts and Heighno not diving on a ball.

 

[twentyforty]

I think u are putting to much into this culture and structure thing , so let’s look at the most successful clubs over the last 5-10 years , I would say there’s 4 or 5
Melbourne
Rooters
South’s
Penrith
So let’s break it down on these 4
Well the 1st thing is they are all owned or backed by single owners , which means they are able to entice the best juniors or the best up and comers as well as keeping the best players on lower contracts , they have the best coaches and I am sure the best back room staff . So when u compare this to the English premier soccer , look who dominates there competition, Manchester city , Chelsea , Liverpool, these clubs owned by single or very rich groups, WELL can u see the same pattern to our league , so culture and structure I think comes down to MONEY, MONEY and more MONEY, because all clubs try there best for that same culture , so it all comes down to how much money u can put into it .

I think your post points to the importance of who owns the money which is invested, not necessarily how much is invested in any particular club?
An investment advisor doesn’t feel the pain of a loss as much as the investor.
For that reason, Rusty is more focussed on the value and return of assets at Souths than I imagine anyone on the board of WT would be of this club?

 

[twentyforty]

You're making an assumption and it's incorrect. Victory/improvement will be expected from the next coach. Coaches live and die by the results sword. It was not entirely his fault but 3 increasingly bad season results aint gonna hold you in good stead. Focussed on winning he might have been but it did not translate to wins

We haven’t seen finals footy in 10 years. We know what failure is, but how do we know if we’re winning? Sheens got sacked because we missed the finals, if we miss the finals in 23 will he get sacked again?
We’re always talking about a coach’s poor performance being the final nail in his coffin. If it was simply a jump up the ladder each season then no coach would survive? What will happen to Cleary if Panthers run 3rd in 23?

 

[Tiga]

We haven’t seen finals footy in 10 years. We know what failure is, but how do we know if we’re winning? Sheens got sacked because we missed the finals, if we miss the finals in 23 will he get sacked again?
We’re always talking about a coach’s poor performance being the final nail in his coffin. If it was simply a jump up the ladder each season then no coach would survive? What will happen to Cleary if Panthers run 3rd in 23?

 

[crazycat]

I don’t know that they’re that bad that they need to copy other successful clubs? It’s not rocket science? From the outside it looks like we’re continually throwing up ideas, new things to try, new 3 year plans. It’s a sign of lack of stability. As an example, every so often we have a focus on winning the Flegg, but why hasn’t that been a focus from day one? We were offered state of the art facilities at the same time as Penrith and other clubs but refused for what ever reason, now we are all for the idea of a CoE?
If there’s one thing they can garner from successful clubs it’s buried in words like “have a long term plan” “stick to the plan” “have direction” regardless of who leaves or joins the club.

wait: "We were offered state of the art facilities at the same time as Penrith and other clubs but refused for what ever reason, now we are all for the idea of a CoE?"

If you are talking about us being the second team at Parra Stadium... Forget it. If we could claim Olympic park, sure. Yet everyone has said rightfully at those stadiums we felt like backpackers and our win/loss record shows that.

The COE has taken WAY too long to build. It's a great 3 year plan that has taken 5-6 years... ??

Naturally many Westie's from Campbelltown are screaming that we need to build a base there. We can own the south and only really have to fight St George (dogs show no interest to claim the area).