Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[crazycat]

is it true that Nathan Brown is coming to play 7 in a new structure/ style of play ?

Nathan Brown at halfback????

Cmon he would Biff on like Tommy R but he at least has to pretend to pass the ball.

 

[happy_tiger]

Ok let’s do
BJ
signed by the recruitment ‘panel’ because we were desperate for a centre who could create opportunities - fail

Peachy
Signed by the recruitment panel to be the utility - fail

What was the name of the recruitment ‘guru’ we got from the roosters that got punted when Sheens appointed McDonald . He pulled the strings for recruitment

Madge 3 players for $1 mill 🤔, now Sheens can spend $2.1 mill on 3 players

Now you failed to comment on sheens sacking for his failures at previous clubs, how could that be possible if he is the messiah or is he just another Madge but with more money to buy improvement ?

Sheens deserves time as did Madge ....Potter etc

But I'm not sold on Sheens just yet ...i remember 2012 .......he would of needed an alias to get out of the country ...he was roundly hated by many WT's supporters ...we were Premiership favourites and folded like a pack of cards .....

He has the signings ...now he has to find a way to get them to

1 Gel as a team
2 Improve the Juniors
3 Hope they stay

 

[Bones]

Let’s not get carried away. Last time Sheens coached us in 2012 he failed to make finals with arguably a better squad than what we will have next year.

So far he has done a great job but a ball hasn’t been kicked and on field results are all that matter.

Keep the champagne for midnight tomorrow

 

[Cobarcats]

Let’s not get carried away. Last time Sheens coached us in 2012 he failed to make finals with arguably a better squad than what we will have next year.

So far he has done a great job but a ball hasn’t been kicked and on field results are all that matter.

Keep the champagne for midnight tomorrow

It's gotta be better than what we've had to endure these past few year.

 

[tigertragic]

Ok, obviously you have a serious Madge crush going on and you’re not dealing well with his failure or giving Sheens any credit for his recruitment successes. I don’t really care who coaches the side, I just want progression and hope. Under Madge there was none. In fact we got worse every year. It’s a results driven job and he failed so he had to go. End of story.
Right now, things look great in comparison and you’re sulking..?
Are you a Tigers supporter or Madge’s manager?

Sorry Junior but I was happy for Madge to be moved on, but didn’t think it was ALL his fault,
*tigers had an abysmal cap situation since the Cleary debacle, that Madge had to work with/thru
•tigers had a selection panel driven by a an ex roosters recruitment manager (now gone for McDonald) and with interference by our chairman/sponsor (Noffa says thank you)

* Sheens decisions/achievements in 2022

+unable to secure Ciraldo after sacking Madge and no other plan in place, can’t imagine Gus or Politis being that dumb

+appointing Noddy (not noddys fault) instead of one of the better qualified assistant coaches,

+releasing players from an already injury riddled team, and

+publicly declaring his focus was on 2025.

The tigers will/should improve given the change in the tigers cap position, not because of Sheens but because of the quality players we can now afford.

Sheens has failed at Nth Qld, been sacked by the tigers previously and numerous Super League sides.

Since he sacked Madge he has signed 2 players on long term deals + reserve grade player from Penrith
Bateman who has struggled in super league for the past 2 years for abt $700,000 (yea I watch super league, hope he improves, definitely needs to on recent form)
David Klemmer on a reported $800,000 for 2023 then hopefully less for the next 2 years, but should be good
The Ferrari for $500,000 for one year

I don’t think anything above is factually incorrect, but it is just my opinion/observations

This is the first year since Cleary that the tigers have been competitive in the market and Sheens is just a very lucky boy to have this advantage when he is coach + head of football, a completely different scenario to Madge’s term in charge.

 

[Coastie_Tiger]

The only time this club has had success is where Sheens was involved, I really can’t blame them for going back to the well and getting Sheens to mentor is his/our style. Madge had his challenges with the roster and control in the beginning but he had his team by the end and we kept sliding he was never the right fit for us and should never have been extended.

 

[tony soprano]

Let’s not get carried away. Last time Sheens coached us in 2012 he failed to make finals with arguably a better squad than what we will have next year.

So far he has done a great job but a ball hasn’t been kicked and on field results are all that matter.

Keep the champagne for midnight tomorrow

Tedesco rd1 injury didn't help.

Can't remember the season but at some point Robbie and benji in 2012 turned on him too. Boy were they proven wrong.

 

[the_third]

Seyfarth has a kid on the way too.

and I hope he finds a club that he can make an impact at. he's a good guy. we are not a charity

 

[tony soprano]

The only time this club has had success is where Sheens was involved, I really can’t blame them for going back to the well and getting Sheens to mentor is his/our style. Madge had his challenges with the roster and control in the beginning but he had his team by the end and we kept sliding he was never the right fit for us and should never have been extended.

Mate sheens has WT upper management kissing the ring at the moment. He's they're for 2 years and gone anyway.

They screwed the joint last 10 years and his back on his terms to fix their mess.

 

[tony soprano]

and I hope he finds a club that he can make an impact at. he's a good guy. we are not a charity

Yeh I'm sure he'll do what's best 4 him but you really see better opportunities outside WT for him?

 

[Tigers_Tale]

Madge was crap. Get over it. He'll go down in history alongside Jason Taylor and Terry Lamb as our all time worst coaches

Madge was not crap, he just could not get the players he wanted. Madge was a decent coach , however players basically did not come to the Tigers, and I suppose a lot of that came from the Taylor era. Jason Taylor and Terry Lamb, they are not coaches, those two were disasters, you would swear that they must of been employed by someone else, not by Wests Tigers. Those two disasters had the cattle , game plans seen non existent, players out of position, team selection was a big problem and they just lost a lot of talented players from all grades.

 

[hammertime]

Other than Cleary, most coaches before Sheens could only afford reserve grade signings, because the cap was that far out of shape, Sheens appointment has been at a fortunate time in respect of the cap position plus recent NRL cap increase what would have been the signing outcomes if he was appointed instead of Madge 3 years ago after Cleary’s spending spree. It all needs to be put into perspective of the prevailing circumstances.

I agree with you TT. Sheens certainly picked his moment and I would agree with you except for one aspect.

If madge had shown some upwards trajectory, we wouldn't be having this conversation. I don't think the expectations were high with the inherited squad, he just delivered even lower.

Sheens also had a pretty cushy job with little accountability, but has jumped back into the fire. That's not nothing.

 

[innsaneink]

You obviously love Madge and I respect that mate but surely you have to admit the whole dynamics of the club has turned around as soon as Sheens walked in the club. We were going backwards big time under Madge and personally I am happy to see him go. He did his best but his play book of 5 hit ups and chuck it to Brooks doesn’t cut it. I’m looking forward to seeing some expansive footy played under the coach that bought all of us a premiership because we have been a rable since he left.

We were a rabble long before he left

 

[Magpie_Magic]

I agree with you TT. Sheens certainly picked his moment and I would agree with you except for one aspect.

If madge had shown some upwards trajectory, we wouldn't be having this conversation. I don't think the expectations were high with the inherited squad, he just delivered even lower.

Madge done some good things we are building on.....and he truly respects our club, and Api, Paps and Ken are top signings.
Madge unlucky got hit with key injuries after those two big wins last year........and that clinched it.

In the end he was a guy who needed to inherit a strong squad and then lift them to the next level.........he was left with too much to do here.

This club needs drastic, left field tactics and personnel to get us out of this wedge we are in.

And Sheens is just the tool for the job. 😉

 

[balmain boy]

I think Will Smith is our ‘in case of emergency break glass’ not many teams have a genuine first grader as back up HB.

But we don't even have a youngster to have a crack.
And Smith is not a halfback. Not in a longshot

 

[Tucker]

Let’s not get carried away. Last time Sheens coached us in 2012 he failed to make finals with arguably a better squad than what we will have next year.

So far he has done a great job but a ball hasn’t been kicked and on field results are all that matter.

Keep the champagne for midnight tomorrow

I wouldn’t say Sheens has done a great job here yet.
He was somewhat responsible for the 22 spoon. He embarrassed the club with his decisions surrounding the coach - past, present and future. Sure he has signed a couple of guys, and gotten rid of the right players but he hasn’t proven anything as a coach here yet.
I’m intrigued about our chances in 23 but am also very apprehensive. I too remember the cluster that was 2012 and am not convinced he can do the job.

 

[Kaito]

Madge couldn't get the boys to
tackle & put the ball runner on the
deck, he insisted on holding up the
ball carrier for so long, stubborn as.
We went from bad to worse in 3
years since he started out with us.
Everyone close to the group will
tell you that he lacked capacity to
make adjustments. He works well
with elite squads because he stays
out of the way for the most part.
Madge apologists and Sheens
haters need to spare us smh.
I agree on the point that Sheens
stood back and watch the shit show
unravel. I said it before but he let
Madge fall on his own sword and
was a key observer on all matters.
I liked Madge, he wore his heart on
his sleeve but his tenure is forgetful

 

[leichhardtjunior]

Sorry Junior but I was happy for Madge to be moved on, but didn’t think it was ALL his fault,
*tigers had an abysmal cap situation since the Cleary debacle, that Madge had to work with/thru
•tigers had a selection panel driven by a an ex roosters recruitment manager (now gone for McDonald) and with interference by our chairman/sponsor (Noffa says thank you)

* Sheens decisions/achievements in 2022

+unable to secure Ciraldo after sacking Madge and no other plan in place, can’t imagine Gus or Politis being that dumb

+appointing Noddy (not noddys fault) instead of one of the better qualified assistant coaches,

+releasing players from an already injury riddled team, and

+publicly declaring his focus was on 2025.

The tigers will/should improve given the change in the tigers cap position, not because of Sheens but because of the quality players we can now afford.

Sheens has failed at Nth Qld, been sacked by the tigers previously and numerous Super League sides.

Since he sacked Madge he has signed 2 players on long term deals + reserve grade player from Penrith
Bateman who has struggled in super league for the past 2 years for abt $700,000 (yea I watch super league, hope he improves, definitely needs to on recent form)
David Klemmer on a reported $800,000 for 2023 then hopefully less for the next 2 years, but should be good
The Ferrari for $500,000 for one year

I don’t think anything above is factually incorrect, but it is just my opinion/observations

This is the first year since Cleary that the tigers have been competitive in the market and Sheens is just a very lucky boy to have this advantage when he is coach + head of football, a completely different scenario to Madge’s term in charge.

Mate, I don’t think anyone is hell bent on the past few years being “ALL Madges fault” or proclaiming “Sheens the messiah”.?
Madge inherited a dud gig, and Tim’s inherited a better one, agreed. That’s coaching 🤷‍♂️
Why the need to dwell on spilt milk?
Tim’s doing well with recruitment now and people are happy about it for obvious reasons.
It’s happy day’s. 🐯

 

[balmain boy]

When it comes to cap spend we have to remember that much of the cap increase has already been taken. All Players on long term or big money deals had 18% wage increases incorporated into their contracts. So much of the cap space has already been filled.
Sure the players on one year deals etc won't be included but there isn't suddenly millions of free room to manoeuvre for clubs with players under contract Long term.
Moses will already be on over a million next season at Parra as a result. I don't think 1.25 is enough for him to come to us, unless he's really had enough at the eels and doesn't want to be part of their rebuild

 

[leichhardtjunior]

I have to say that some of you guys are just too much.. Seriously, damaged goods. So much baggage.. I mean it’s gotta be the most positive and promising time for the club in, I don’t know how long. And some of you just refuse to enjoy it for what it is.?

It’s like, I want to cheer, but I’m resentful?
Tim’s doing well, but I still hate him for 2012?
I wonder what Madge is doing now 🤔✊
Are we really a chance,. no don’t do that you know how it always ends 😖😩

I don’t even want to think about what it’ll do to some of you if Brooks succeeds behind this pack.? …Jesus 🤦‍♂️
Anyway I guess I’m glad I don’t get it and I can just enjoy this moment.

Up the Mighty’s 🐯
I’m out ✌️