Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[supercoach]

The way I see it, we win if he signs and we win if he doesn’t.

My logic is..We need to finally land a high profile signing, we have been bridesmaids to many times. So MM would fit the bill.

On the other hand if we don’t we save a truck load of cash and can focus on maybe a young 7 being road blocked for a quarter of the dollars.

Win Win

 

[Tiger_claws]

Not a rumoured signing but I spent a couple of years coaching as a development coach at Panthers (only 13s & 14s) but we had an induction every year and Gus would spit out the same stuff. “Premierships are bred and built not brought. At Panthers we demand our success is from within our system.” Dogs have some very good talent in the ages 18-21. Their path is being blocked with this buy mentality. It’s going to implode amongst junior rep managers. Funny how Gus has changed his tuned. It will bite them hard imo. Sheens has told our elite 18-21 get stuck into training and you will get a shot at Tigers NRL.

 

[Pascoes_barber]

Noise of a pending announcement is getting louder.

That was just an excessively strained bowel movement, my apologies.

 

[liltiger]

I was kind of sub letting the dunny to give the scum bag one of the cubicles.

Oh I got you was worried, the Morrison toilet is a huge money maker for the club the gloryhole in there is famous the world over 😄

 

[hsvjones]

I’m pretty sure MM would be keen on playing Sheens/Benji “flare football” brand rather than stuck behind boring Brad Arthur type… he’s gone as far as he could with the eels, times change and the Tiges are on the up 🤙

I agree, As a player they love to score and have the flair game and this suit Moses to a Tee IMO.
If he was going to stay, why is it not done yet is the big question.

 

[851]

The point is more Moses performance in the GF. 17 kicks for 611 kick meters is a huge contribution for a HB. And as you said the team was dominated from the start so he was clearly kicking off the back foot.
This we do not have, we do not have a half that can play for territory off the back of a dominated pack.

He clearly hates Moses and his opinion is clouded and not worth responding too

 

[finnzo]

Noise of a pending announcement is getting louder.

How confident are you we have him?

 

[LeichhardtTiger]

Noise of a pending announcement is getting louder.

Yep, I like Pat Pending ... a unique talent. You don't have to be Einstein to know that. 👨‍🔬 🥃 🤣

 

[the_third]

Titans
Knights
Dogs
Storm
Broncos
Eels

Bye Bye

 

[Tiger_claws]

If you were there, You would remember he imported mostly when he got to the Panthers as well.....
Whatever his reasoning - It's worked, And they're now set for 20 years.

Gus won't lose anyone from the dogs he doesn't want to....

His 5 year plan was all based around cleary and co when they where playing Matts and Ball. I don’t want to sound disrespectful to Gus but if he didn’t have certain business contacts he wouldn’t be in the game (in his position) They will lose some outstanding junior talent in the next year or 2.

 

[851]

His 5 year plan was all based around cleary and co when they where playing Matts and Ball. I don’t want to sound disrespectful to Gus but if he didn’t have certain business contacts he wouldn’t be in the game (in his position) They will lose some outstanding junior talent in the next year or 2.

I hope you are right, the media suck up to him like he is the messiah

 

[wet tiger coloured bird]

good NRL halfbacks are very hard to come by. Moses is at least a top 8 halfback, we haven’t had one of those for some time. If we signed him for 5 years (which I think is too long) after a couple of years I think there will be other bottom feeding teams desperate enough to take him off our hands at full freight (Or close enough to full freight).

a few good signing and all of sudden we are not a bottom feeder anymore. we are still at the bottom until we win some games. still no to moses never the less

 

[Kaito]

I hope you are right, the media suck him to him like he is the messiah

Signing an unproven 18 year old QLD'er
For 3 years and $500,000 transfer fee
after breaking his contract is either
batshit crazy or a masterstroke haha.

 

[tony soprano]

His 5 year plan was all based around cleary and co when they where playing Matts and Ball. I don’t want to sound disrespectful to Gus but if he didn’t have certain business contacts he wouldn’t be in the game (in his position) They will lose some outstanding junior talent in the next year or 2.

Would it be fair to say he plays out of the nick politis handbook?

 

[thegbone]

If you were there, You would remember he imported mostly when he got to the Panthers as well.....
Whatever his reasoning - It's worked, And they're now set for 20 years.

Gus won't lose anyone from the dogs he doesn't want to....

Gus’s vision for the panthers was Moylan, Blake, DWZ, Mansour, CHN, Cartwright, Peachey, RCG etc on massive back ended contracts. The panthers only came good once they sold them all (whilst fitting a huge part of the bill).

He may have done great things with their juniours, I don’t know, but he also had a Junior base which is roughly 3 times the size of the second largest Sydney one. Basically it’s like crediting the guy In charge of USA Olympics for them getting more medals than Australia.

Meanwhile the Dogs Flegg, Ball and Matt’s teams all finished below one of ours in 2022.

 

[Tiger_claws]

Would it be fair to say he plays out of the nick politis handbook?

Looks that way doesn’t it. Nick and Gus are very close. I know Tim Grant got offered a “restructured” contract which Tim made the same money but less on the books when at Panthers. Creative accounting or a good TPA came in but to TGs credit he said no. Thats just one example I know of Gus tactics. I believe our approach is good. Trust me I wasn’t totally convinced on Sheens return at first but he has the junior reps onside and pumping to play for us

 

[Camel2281]

Then you have to consider if he would be blocking the progression of younger players such as Matamua and Faagutu. Clearly the answer is he would be and that is before you consider the salary cap implications. There is a lot of work balancing a squad.

I thought Douehi and Moses were a really good combination for Lebanon. I think they'd compliment each other perfectly, as long as AD gets back to his 2021 form and uses that as a baseline performance. Last year for the Tigers he wasn't good enough

 

[Tiger_claws]

Gus’s vision for the panthers was Moylan, Blake, DWZ, Mansour, CHN, Cartwright, Peachey, RCG etc on massive back ended contracts. The panthers only came good once they sold them all (whilst fitting a huge part of the bill).

He may have done great things with their juniours, I don’t know, but he also had a Junior base which is roughly 3 times the size of the second largest Sydney one. Basically it’s like crediting the guy In charge of USA Olympics for them getting more medals than Australia.

Meanwhile the Dogs Flegg, Ball and Matt’s teams all finished below one of ours in 2022.

Their best Junior imo (Joey O’Neill) wont hang around now they have signed and given a top 30 spot to the young Bronco. O’Neill is better than any of our Flegg & Reggies halves. He is just one of several outstanding players they will lose.

 

[Camel2281]

Good post. We are not the Salvation army. Why keep persevering with ordinary players on good coin. We must duplicate the top sides, and continue to promote or buy the best where possible. To do this as you have said,is down to salary cap implications and roster balance. We cannot progress young players if we are tied to dead wood, and there are no vacancies. We have a few players that either perform or be let go!

Whilst I agree with the sentiment of your post. Your 100s of posts backing Luke Brooks tends me to form the opinion that you are an enormous hypocrite

 

[Camel2281]

Your opinion of course but I heavily disagree….with everything.
Cleary is a step higher in kicking ability.
Cleary is a damaging runner and good ball player.
Luai is a foil only as witnessed in the World Cup.
Cleary is an all round better player, and leader as detailed in the 2021 SOO series. With him present, NSW were a 35 point better team on average across games 1 and 2. Moses came in for game 3 and with the same side got beaten.

To be fair to Moses, he also came into that side with a new 5/8 in Jack Wighton who was horrendous that night