Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Lukic]

Acknowledging that what you have said here is widely viewed this way, I dont get this way of thinking.
It was only 2 years ago that a NSW centre combination absolutely pulverised QLD. So incredible was their impact that even QLD players admitted there wasnt much they could do to combat it.

If Sheens wants to play 'out of the box' footy, using his centres like the league world used to use them 15 years ago would be an intelligent start. How much impact did To'a have against Cowboys? They simply could not handle him and most of us gave him MOM. You could do far worse than challenge this ill considered belief that has festered in the game and make the centres the focus of our attack.

That thing about NSW's centres pulverising QLD proves that point though. It was two fullbacks who were picked there that were given a licence to roam around the field. The fact they weren't centres and didn't play like centres is what made them so effective.

That's not to say a centre can't impact a game, like To'a did for us against the Cows, but in terms of the hierarchy of positions it is definitely the least important. As long as your centre isn't a defensive liability and can catch and pass, they're fine. You don't want to be pouring a ton of money into your centres at the expense of your spine or forward pack...

 

[Tucker]

That thing about NSW's centres pulverising QLD proves that point though. It was two fullbacks who were picked there that were given a licence to roam around the field. The fact they weren't centres and didn't play like centres is what made them so effective.

The fact that they were fullbacks meant that they supported more than the average centre, but they controlled their corridors to perfection. They did most of their damage out wide. They did play like centres, albeit in a hybrid capacity.
I am starting to think that the over reliance in having a perfect spine is encouraging too many cooks in the kitchen. Rampaging centres are a perfect foil for mediocre halves and thats what we have and likely will continue to have for a couple more years yet.

 

[Mistymuzzle]

My suspicions exactly.
If we are paying a cent for him to be there, heads need to roll.

Tigers are not paying any freight for Joffa

 

[Mistymuzzle]

Been awhile since I dropped some news here.....Hearing Tommy Talau could get an early release to manly. They're hitting the emergency button on their season and feel tommy could help with a lot of their issues and are willing to player swap to get it done Sipley could be on the move to our joint

Sipley is not coming to the Tigers

 

[Tucker]

Tigers are not paying any freight for Joffa

Do you have the receipts for this or is it hearsay?

 

[Mistymuzzle]

Sipley is a like many of the manly players, upset they shafted Dessie… I know for a fact he’s open to coming to the tigers 🐅

Signed a new Contract with Manly after they sacked Des. Sipley is not coming to the Tigers folks.

 

[Mistymuzzle]

Do you have the receipts for this or is it hearsay?

0% Hearsay

 

[Wiz]

The fact that they were fullbacks meant that they supported more than the average centre, but they controlled their corridors to perfection. They did most of their damage out wide. They did play like centres, albeit in a hybrid capacity.
I am starting to think that the over reliance in having a perfect spine is encouraging too many cooks in the kitchen. Rampaging centres are a perfect foil for mediocre halves and thats what we have and likely will continue to have for a couple more years yet.

They were awesome in that game. But it was a rep game with no salary cap. In club land you are not paying two centres like those two given centres are stuck in a third of the field and don’t take the early carrys like wingers do ( I know centres do take such carrys but not with the same frequency as wingers).

 

[TigerLove]

Sipley is not coming to the Tigers

Haha... are you CloudyG @Mistymuzzle?
I hope so because I did appreciate his post.

 

[OzLuke]

Sipley is a like many of the manly players, upset they shafted Dessie… I know for a fact he’s open to coming to the tigers 🐅

Not doubting you, but that's a pretty strong statement...hope it happens.

 

[Mistymuzzle]

Haha... are you CloudyG @Mistymuzzle?
I hope so because I did appreciate his post.

😉

 

[Tucker]

They were awesome in that game. But it was a rep game with no salary cap. In club land you are not paying two centres like those two given centres are stuck in a third of the field and don’t take the early carrys like wingers do ( I know centres do take such carrys but not with the same frequency as wingers).

Yes you are correct.
What I am saying is, change the paradigm and aim for the next superstar centre combo.
7 of the 13 immortals were centres. How did we let that position become so pedestrian?

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

😉

Who may we be after then @Mistymuzzle ?

 

[WestsEffTheRest]

Centres are the least impactful position in the game and if we let Talau go and then have an injury we’d be able to get an adequate fill in via Kepoa, Staines, etc. not a perfect fill in, but adequate for this season given we’re not winning the comp and building for the future.

Like Tallyn Da Silva Josh Feledy is highly rated by the coaching staff. Wouldn't be surprised if he gets a go should injuries happen.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Hats off to competing Sipley rumours duelling with smoking glocks at ten paces.

 

[Wiz]

Yes you are correct.
What I am saying is, change the paradigm and aim for the next superstar centre combo.
7 of the 13 immortals were centres. How did we let that position become so pedestrian?

We didn’t let it get pedestrian. The game changed. The players got way more athletic and could cover more ground for longer. Then coaches worked out it was better for efficiency to split centres (and others) and keep them on one side of the field. So the field effectively became smaller and you didn’t have centres passing to each other. All that space that centres from previous generations had to look amazing was gone.

 

[Tucker]

We didn’t let it get pedestrian. The game changed. The players got way more athletic and could cover more ground for longer. Then coaches worked out it was better for efficiency to split centres (and others) and keep them on one side of the field. So the field effectively became smaller and you didn’t have centres passing to each other. All that space that centres from previous generations had to look amazing was gone.

Yes they did and they steralised the product as a result. The game is far more boring since it 'evolved'
I cant stand this left and right BS. I want us to play footy and if we did, defences wouldnt cope because they are so robotic they are almost on auto pilot.

 

[Mistymuzzle]

Who may we be after then @Mistymuzzle ?

There is a Manly player the club is chasing but its not Sipley and its not Schuster.
Edit: Manly is not letting our target go at this stage and he has 2years to go on his Contract

 

[Tucker]

0% Hearsay

would have been believable had you stated 10%

 

[earl]

Hats off to competing Sipley rumours duelling with smoking glocks at ten paces.

One thing I know for sure is that these things can turn on a dime. Woodsy was basically a lock to come here this season and now he is at Manly. Pray to whatever God you believe in or if you are an Atheist like me pray to all of them that Woodsy is never coming here again in any capacity other than a paying supporter at the game.