Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

tigerballs said:
Toa, Tupou and Reilly are good footballers, just wait and see. Add Staines and maybe another offseason find, it's a very good backline. Reilly may even start the season at 5/8 if Fainu's not ready and I think he'll excel there. John Morris is going to make a massive difference to the structure and if we can produce any sort of threat from the halves, you'll see what these kids can do. Note when Brooks was on his game, Tupou and T'oa were standouts. Staines is always a threat. All they need is a bit of room to move.
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I don't think we are that far off if our halves recruits come good and we get luck with injuries and players find form. A lot has to go right for us to improve but it's possible.
 
Jedi_Tiger said:
problem with joffa was hos salary was allegedly increasing from 450k to 650k for 2024 and 2025 and Fulton can use this money better elsewhere
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Where’s he using it , it’s been months and apart from the two brothers nothing , is he using it on his holidays , there’s been many clubs making signings that I think we could have been in for but nothing , he better pull his finger out , or there will be bugger all left
 
diedpretty said:
The NRL making sure the top sides keep all their stars.

The backflip is back: NRL’s controversial rule change set to transform player market​

Michael Chammas

By Michael Chammas​

September 12, 2023 — 7.44pm

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The NRL is set to implement a controversial “backflip” clause that will turn the player market on its head from next season, handing power to agents and opening the door for players to renege on contracts.
The Herald has obtained the NRL’s salary cap and contracting model document sent to all clubs and player agents over the past week.

The player market could be flipped on its head.
The most significant change – which will come into effect from November 1 – is the “last right of negotiation” clause added into the agreement that will give incumbent clubs a 10-day period to convince a player not to join a rival club.
The document states that “every player must provide his incumbent club with a last right of negotiation for a 10-day period from the date of notice that the player has received an offer from a rival Club, and that offer has been submitted to the NRL, that he is prepared to accept.”

Under the NRL’s new rules, the incumbent club will be told when a player is willing to accept an offer elsewhere.
They won’t be told the terms of the deal with the rival club, but will then have 10 days to convince the player not to accept the rival offer.

NRL documentation: Last Right of Negotiation clause​

Every player must provide his incumbent Club with a last right of negotiation for a 10-day period from the date of notice that the player has received an offer from a rival Club, and that offer has been submitted to the NRL, that he is prepared to accept. In order to give effect to this clause:
  • a) the player must provide notice to his incumbent Club that he has an offer that he will accept in 10 days’ time (subject to negotiations with his incumbent Club);
  • b) the Club can then engage in contract negotiations with the player for a period of up to 10 days, or the Club may waive its rights in writing (at which point the player is free to sign with the rival Club);
  • c) the offer from the rival NRL Club must be an official offer and submitted to the NRL Salary Cap Auditor (the contents of which will remain confidential, but the NRL Salary Cap Auditor can provide verification to the incumbent Club that an official offer has been received). The offer must remain open for acceptance for a minimum of 14 days, and for at least 48 hours beyond the expiry of the 10-day negotiation period with the incumbent Club. There is no requirement for the player to disclose the terms of the offer to his incumbent Club;
  • d) at the expiry of the 10 days, the player may sign (or reject) the offer from the rival Club.
The clause, giving the player the ability to change his mind at the end of the 10-day cooling-off period, has piqued the interest of player agents.
“Every negotiation could have a Daly Cherry-Evans affect,” one player agent, talking on the condition of anonymity to protect his position in the game, told the Herald.
Cherry-Evans, the Manly captain, famously reneged on a four-year, multimillion-dollar deal with the Gold Coast Titans to accept a $10 million “lifetime contract” with Manly in 2015.
“Some managers and recruitment managers team up to make other successful clubs pay a higher price,” the agent said. “It could be crazy giving some managers this much power to influence an outcome.

What’s stopping a player from agreeing with a rival club without any intention of following through? This just opens Pandora’s Box.”
The NRL confirmed the changes in a meeting with clubs on Monday afternoon. Agents were sent the official document last week.
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/nr...shock-deal-with-panthers-20230912-p5e43b.html

There have been a number of player movements over the past 12 months which may have not have happened under the model set to be introduced next year.
Stephen Crichton accepted an offer from the Canterbury Bulldogs before hearing an offer from Penrith due to the club’s protracted contract negotiations.
Under the new rules the Panthers would have had 10 days to put forward an offer to Crichton and attempt to convince him to stay.
The new rules will make it almost impossible for a club to announce a player contract before it is released in the media.

The incumbent club will be informed of the player’s intention to sign with a rival club and could use the opportunity to spin the narrative in their favour.
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Was this clause written by Parramatta?
 
bptiger 0 said:
Where’s he using it , it’s been months and apart from the two brothers nothing , is he using it on his holidays , there’s been many clubs making signings that I think we could have been in for but nothing , he better pull his finger out , or there will be bugger all left
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maybe on Staines who knows?
 
Tom Shines said:
this will help the Wests Tigers too…

Bula gets an offer to go to the Roosters and the club can tug at his sense of loyalty for 10 days instead of not knowing about it until it’s too late
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I think its rubbish. The playermanager will let the main team know what the opposition is willing to pay. They wont do it direclty but i assure you they will bump the price up.

What a dumb idea but hey it is the NRL so not suprised.
 
bptiger 0 said:
Where’s he using it , it’s been months and apart from the two brothers nothing , is he using it on his holidays , there’s been many clubs making signings that I think we could have been in for but nothing , he better pull his finger out , or there will be bugger all left
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They mentioned on the pod there's not much out there Available hence bulldog signings
 
Todd Packer said:
They're the modern multicultural world's Mortimer brothers.
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Speaking of the Mortimers .. was out at Orange NSW the other week doing a Wine Tasting trip .. we ended up at an old school building, about 5 minutes outside of Orange that has been converted into a Cellar door and wine tasting area .. was really great .. then this young fellow came over and introduced himself as Daniel and gave us a spiel about their wines, and then his dad Peter the owner, limps over and talks to us about the wines as well .. hmmm tasted great too .. but it never cottoned to me who these guys were until i went into the Cellar Door and saw all these Rugby League pictures of the Bulldogs, Roosters, and Parramatta on the wall .. then I spoke with Daniel about buying some bottles .. and it hit me like a left upper cut from Mike Tyson .. you're Daniel Mortimer and your dad is Peter Mortimer .. holy crap .. what a donkey I am .. well i then proceeded to chew his ear off about Rugby League for next 10 minutes .. and I purchased 3 boxes of their wines .. 🤣🍷🤣
 
The-moP said:
Speaking of the Mortimers .. was out at Orange NSW the other week doing a Wine Tasting trip .. we ended up at an old school building, about 5 minutes outside of Orange that has been converted into a Cellar door and wine tasting area .. was really great .. then this young fellow came over and introduced himself as Daniel and gave us a spiel about their wines, and then his dad Peter the owner, limps over and talks to us about the wines as well .. hmmm tasted great too .. but it never cottoned to me who these guys were until i went into the Cellar Door and saw all these Rugby League pictures of the Bulldogs, Roosters, and Parramatta on the wall .. then I spoke with Daniel about buying some bottles .. and it hit me like a left upper cut from Mike Tyson .. you're Daniel Mortimer and your dad is Peter Mortimer .. holy crap .. what a donkey I am .. well i then proceeded to chew his ear off about Rugby League for next 10 minutes .. and I purchased 3 boxes of their wines .. 🤣🍷🤣
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There are some great wines from the Orange area,in many ways it is similar to the quality you can get from the Canberra region
 
bptiger 0 said:
Where’s he using it , it’s been months and apart from the two brothers nothing , is he using it on his holidays , there’s been many clubs making signings that I think we could have been in for but nothing , he better pull his finger out , or there will be bugger all left
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We also got Sullivan and Sezer as well as the Fainus
 
While we sit and judge our outside backs on their 2023 performances we have to recognise that they were playing outside a halves combination that rarely took the ball to the line and gave them no time, most of the time. There are defensive errors in them for sure but in many cases thay are adressable. On the plus side they have shown, at times, that they could get the job done in attack.

We definitely need to add some strike to what we have - but I don't think it is time to throw the baby out with the bathwater. To be competitive we need to build depth; and not until we will have a competitive KOE side putting pressure on the FG team for positions will we have that.

We need to spend some cap $ on strike and mongrel to add to what we have and work hard on developing the Toupou's and Toa's during the off season. This has to be complimented with some quality depth signings, not top 30 contracts, making it a real competition for selection in both grades and Flegg week in week out.

We have young Jimmy coming back from and ACL, Feledy being developed, Reilly has come along and will be putting some pressure on. Then we have Toa, Naden, Junior, Staines and Nofa all competing for the FG ranks as it stands. Now it is time to add to that a real strike weapon in the centres that has some clout - Olam maybe a little quiet off the filed (not sure never met the guy; simply going off my experiences working with PNG dudes) but I think Gags could fit the bill in the same way Klemmer and Bateman have in the forwards.

While it would be great to buy in a brilliant young star - it isn't likely to happen - what we need is similar leadership in the backline as we have in the forwards. Someone to develop the backline by leading by example at training - doing the 1%ers and showing the young bulls how the game should be played. We certainly can't rely on Nofa to do any of that.

I trust that Benji and Fulton have a simialr plan - while Alamoti may have been a nice get from the Dogs he is coming from a system as bad as ours and into a system that will get the most from him. We need attitude, mongrel and leadership. With a couple of the right additons we could well see a most improved backline. Time will tell - but I think it is as clear as the nose on your face where our deficiencies lie - the selection dudes have made their halves choices - now let's see what joy they bring us as teams start to get knocked out of the race for the big dance!
 
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Tucker said:
I think a few on here gave us a bum steer on Reilly.
He is worth the effort over this off season to develop.
I don’t know what is happening in KOE Cup, but the same things were said of Bula before he debuted.
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They didn't, he was genuinely lost when he first came over.

He has improved, particularly defensively, out of sight. It's a credit to him.
 
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