Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

South Sydney has announced the retention of Michael Chee Kam and Dean Hawkins on one-year deals, securing the pair for the 2024 season.

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I guess we can look forward to an October filled with players resigning with their current clubs. Then a November full of players signing elsewhere for '25. I still think signing a year in advance is not right, but that's the system currently.

Fortunately for us, we have Api and Bula and the young halves locked away. Any others we need to announce in the upcoming month to stop a WTF meltdown?

Our gain is another team's loss AND vice-versa. We just hope to end up on the right side of the ledger at the end of trading.
 
Todd Packer said:
Cleary signed for them for less than a couple of other halves in the comp. according to the media.
Does that sound like they're all above board.
All clubs cheat. Even back in Anthony Mundine's day he talked about $100k per year that he was paid on the side.
We're just the suckers that don't know how to do it.
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Players genuinely being willing to take unders to sign somewhere is very, very difficult to police. If memory serves they have rules in the collective bargaining agreement in Major League Baseball that restrict free agent players from taking deals that are significantly less than the best offer on the table. But that wouldn't work in the NRL: the money isn't really big enough to force someone to move to New Zealand or Townsville over, and anyway players can make a legitimate argument that 800k a year playing for Souths or the Roosters is a better deal than 1m playing for the Tigers or Dragons because of the side benefits of playing for a prominent, successful club. That's before you even start on the idea that players might not just be about maximising their earnings year to year and may actually want to win things even if it means giving up a few quid.

Once you acknowledge that it's potentially legitimate for a player to take what might not be the biggest offer you open a loophole you could drive the team bus through. Maybe Cleary took unders to keep playing for his dad and with his mates; maybe there's brown paper bags being handed over. Short of catching him red handed, how would anyone ever know?
 
2041 said:
Players genuinely being willing to take unders to sign somewhere is very, very difficult to police. If memory serves they have rules in the collective bargaining agreement in Major League Baseball that restrict free agent players from taking deals that are significantly less than the best offer on the table. But that wouldn't work in the NRL: the money isn't really big enough to force someone to move to New Zealand or Townsville over, and anyway players can make a legitimate argument that 800k a year playing for Souths or the Roosters is a better deal than 1m playing for the Tigers or Dragons because of the side benefits of playing for a prominent, successful club. That's before you even start on the idea that players might not just be about maximising their earnings year to year and may actually want to win things even if it means giving up a few quid.

Once you acknowledge that it's potentially legitimate for a player to take what might not be the biggest offer you open a loophole you could drive the team bus through. Maybe Cleary took unders to keep playing for his dad and with his mates; maybe there's brown paper bags being handed over. Short of catching him red handed, how would anyone ever know?
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The Cleary's were a package deal... IMO dads $$ were inflated yearly salary to compensate his sons so called unders $$
 
Rusty said:
The Cleary's were a package deal... IMO dads $$ were inflated yearly salary to compensate his sons so called unders $$
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Talk about naive posts. The most naive posts ever on this forum were when we actually believed Nathan was going to come to our club. Almost idiotic in hindsight.
 
Im 77,
And would love to hear we have made a big name signing,
One that other clubs would love to get.

Not 30 plus ones that are fast approaching there use by.
but ones that are early 20s models, that everyone wants to get.

Lets face facts 90% of our team are not wanted by other clubs.
And I forget the last proven big name
this club has signed.
Would be great one day to look at WTF and see we have been shocked in the nicest possible way.
 
tiger_one said:

Michael Ennis joins Sea Eagles Coaching Staff​


www.seaeagles.com.au

Michael Ennis joins Sea Eagles Coaching Staff

The opportunity to develop his skills as a specialist coach with some of the NRL’s best players was enough for former two-time premiership winning hooker Mick Ennis to join the Manly Warringah Sea Eagles coaching staff in 2024.
www.seaeagles.com.au www.seaeagles.com.au
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Couldn't think of a better fit, can't stand either of them.
Hopefully it means he spends much, much less time in the commentary box...
 
My 2024 - 29/30
1. Jahream Bula
2. Brent Naden
3. Starford To’a
4. Adam Doueihi
5. Junior Tupou
6. Jayden Sullivan
7. Aidan Sezer
8. Stefano Utoikamanu
9. Apisai Koroisau (c)
10. David Klemmer
11. Isaiah Papali'i
12. John Bateman
13. Justin Matamua

14. Latu Fainu
15. Shawn Blore
16. Fonua Pole
17. Alex Twal

Reserves
18. David Nofoaluma
19. Triston Reilly
20. Josh Feledy
21. AJ Kepaoa
22. Lachlan Galvin
23. Brandon Tumeth
24. Brandon Mansfield
25. Samuela Fainu
26. Sione Fainu
27. Tallyn Da Silva
28. Jake Simpkin
29. Jordan Miller
 
Rusty said:
The Cleary's were a package deal... IMO dads $$ were inflated yearly salary to compensate his sons so called unders $$
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Yeah that’s a simple one isn’t it?
Pay dad good money, (justifiable based on his standing in the game and potential with his son), pay Nathan minimum market rate on the books (again justifiable as he wants to stay loyal and play with his mates), dad buys land or property with his extra dough and then transfers it into Nathan’s name after footy is all finished as an inheritance.
Squeaky clean.
 
Dennisspicer1 said:
Im 77,
And would love to hear we have made a big name signing,
One that other clubs would love to get.

Not 30 plus ones that are fast approaching there use by.
but ones that are early 20s models, that everyone wants to get.

Lets face facts 90% of our team are not wanted by other clubs.
And I forget the last proven big name
this club has signed.
Would be great one day to look at WTF and see we have been shocked in the nicest possible way.
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But your soul is young.
 
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