Benji Marshall #70

Missed 0 games in 2020
Missed 4 games in 2021
Missed 8 games in 2022
Missed 6 games in 2023 with at least 2 more games playing clearly injured.
Not sure if all were injuries but there’s been a few lately
The one issue with him will be the dislocated shoulder. They have a high recurrence rate. A potential risk to sign him. If I was him though, sign a long term deal on good money before next year so that the shoulder injury doesn't come as tax for making money in the future if it does keep occurring. It ruined Gareth Widdop's NRL career
 
Poor performance? No missed tackles, no tries conceded on his edge. Team was winning 8-0 until a late Flegler try in the middle. Mam scored a try after Cleary's ball kicked dead. Luai goes off when it is 12-8, Mam scores 2 tries on Cleary's side again after Cogger comes on. Yeo goes off after this at 24-8, where in your logic was Luai the reason for their improvement? If anything the score evidence here shows Yeo made a bigger impact on the comeback especially as he touches the ball more and gets more first receiver. Are you able to make a logical answer without name calling or getting upset that a player you don't like didn't play as bad as you imagined?

Penrith will say the same about Luai if media ask about it. It's what teammates do (not coaches seeing how Ivan talks down his own player). Cronk literally hid on the wing, barely made tackles, didn't get involved in attack but just pointed. I watched that GF and it was all Keary. Yet when Luai does his job defensively, actually reinjures the shoulder during the game because he doesn't hide on the wing, he still gets scapegoated? Media has done its research on its target audience
Lol I don’t think you did watch it properly. Cronk was targeted in defence and held his own. At one stage he hit a full pace Nelson on his own line, on his own.
Your bias is weird.
 
Missed 0 games in 2020
Missed 4 games in 2021
Missed 8 games in 2022
Missed 6 games in 2023 with at least 2 more games playing clearly injured.
Not sure if all were injuries but there’s been a few lately
How many of these due to rep footy/being rested & how many of these were him injured?
 
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Carrigan's ball playing is so underrated. Doesn't throw as many passes as Murray and Radley but knows how to find space and what lines to run himself. Doesn't lock himself into the same running/passing pattern every time like Yeo does.

Yeo's equivalent in another sport is Nathan Lyon in cricket. Only has a limited number of tricks but is very good at them and can do them all day.
knows how to bend the line, very mobile and gives a lot of offloads. Him and Haas are unstoppable when they have momentum
 
How so? You are only seeing what you want to see. Ignoring facts seems to not bother you
I say he hampered the Penrith attack in the GF and you crap on about Cleary missing tackles. You compare his effort to Cronks and talk Cronk down, even though what Cronk did was heroic and team based. You blame Freddy because he does nothing in Origin, you blame his team mates for him not hitting his peak yet (even though you have no idea whether he has or not). You say he was great in the WC. I’d say he was mostly good but shit himself on two occasions.
 
I say he hampered the Penrith attack in the GF and you crap on about Cleary missing tackles. You compare his effort to Cronks and talk Cronk down, even though what Cronk did was heroic and team based. You blame Freddy because he does nothing in Origin, you blame his team mates for him not hitting his peak yet (even though you have no idea whether he has or not). You say he was great in the WC. I’d say he was mostly good but shit himself on two occasions.
Is this Nathan Cleary's burner account? I mentioned the Cleary mistakes to show it wasn't actually Luai's fault for them going behind which is what you're trying to do. The only way Penrith would win in a situation of 24-8 behind is if the coach changed the style of the team. When penrith was winning 8-0 as they usually do, he didn't make their attacking style free-flowing. They knew if they were going to beat Brisbane they had to grind out a win and prevent points. That was ruined on the stroke of half-time when Flegler scored after a cheap penalty from Leniu. From there, even Plan B was out the window so Cleary had to step up from his errors and prove the doubters wrong which he did. And it's funny that you're seemingly accusing me of being biased when you're being biased against Luai with all of your points. The only thing that is contentious about what I said is whether Luai has his best individual footy ahead of him, because that is something in the future, not something in the past that I have evidently shown. He was great in the world cup, not good. Player of the tournament essentially, shown by his multiple man of the matches and feature in the team of the tournament
 
Is this Nathan Cleary's burner account? I mentioned the Cleary mistakes to show it wasn't actually Luai's fault for them going behind which is what you're trying to do. The only way Penrith would win in a situation of 24-8 behind is if the coach changed the style of the team. When penrith was winning 8-0 as they usually do, he didn't make their attacking style free-flowing. They knew if they were going to beat Brisbane they had to grind out a win and prevent points. That was ruined on the stroke of half-time when Flegler scored after a cheap penalty from Leniu. From there, even Plan B was out the window so Cleary had to step up from his errors and prove the doubters wrong which he did. And it's funny that you're seemingly accusing me of being biased when you're being biased against Luai with all of your points. The only thing that is contentious about what I said is whether Luai has his best individual footy ahead of him, because that is something in the future, not something in the past that I have evidently shown. He was great in the world cup, not good. Player of the tournament essentially, shown by his multiple man of the matches and feature in the team of the tournament
That’s not the point I’m making. Your straw man is falling over.
I said they struggled to SCORE with Luai out there. He was creating nothing.
As I said, you are acting like Mrs Luai.
 
That’s not the point I’m making. Your straw man is falling over.
I said they struggled to SCORE with Luai out there. He was creating nothing.
As I said, you are acting like Mrs Luai.
they struggled to score with Luai on because he had a dislocated shoulder and why would they go through his channel in attack when they were winning most of the first half and in control. Cleary didn't create nothing either during the first half. What changed is when Ivan was forced into changing the style of attack when Yeo and Luai went off. Playing Cleary more freely helped him
 
The Seems like the players have really bought in to Benji and his coaching style, even stating that the games he was in charge of this year were their best games. I think we will see a more cohesive team next season with a playing group focused andknowing what is expected from them... Or maybe i've fallen into the pre-season trap. I guess we'll find out in a few months...

Papali'i backs Benji's proven blueprint to lead Tigers turnaround​


The Wests Tigers were at their best when Benji Marshall was the one calling the shots last season according to Isaiah Papali’i, which gives him confidence the club will take a leap in 2024.
With three games remaining last season the club announced Marshall would take over from Tim Sheens as head coach at the conclusion of the campaign, a year earlier than initially planned, with the premiership winner effectively assuming control of the team from that point.

Papali’i said it was at that stage that the side played some of their best football, which included picking up one of their four wins of the season by way of a 24-23 victory over the Dolphins.
That alone gives the 25-year-old Kiwi international reason to believe the future looks much brighter for the club who head into 2024 with back-to-back wooden spoons next to their name.
“We had Benji in the back end of our season and I think that’s where we were our most consistent,” Papali’i told NRL.com.
We had a patch there [earlier in 2023] where we were playing pretty well and we got our first win of the season, but a lot of that was, to be honest, on the back of Benji’s game plan and how simple he made it for us.
Isaiah Papali'i
“Although we weren’t winning [all of that time], you just get that feeling where you feel like you are in the game a bit more and the way we were playing was our type of footy.
“Having Benji at the helm is going to be good, where we are getting a constant message or a constant game plan that is going to be simple for the whole 27 rounds.”
Poor on-field performances, coupled with speculation around the future of Sheens as head coach, ensured the club was under a constant spotlight in 2023, which Papali’i, who just a year earlier had played in grand final with the Eels, admitted made it hard to focus at times.
“All the external noise, as much as you want to block it out, it is a distraction,” he said.
“I think a lot of the boys dealt with it differently and even though it didn’t impact me massively, I think it’s just that little thing in the back of your head.

“Time will tell if that carries on, but I am pretty happy that we have got next season to look forward to because that season was pretty hard.”

Meanwhile Papali’i said the major positive from the 2023 campaign was the number of players the club was able to blood and develop.
The likes of Fonua Pole and Junior Tupou enjoyed strong second seasons in the top grade in '23, while fullback Jahream Bula announced himself as a genuine star of the future with a rookie campaign that included five tries and seven try assists in 18 games.
“That was a very young team we had out there. I remember being young and each week, you don’t understand at the time, but all those experiences, either good or bad, only make you a better player," Papali'i said.

“I think they will look back on the season and understand and take confidence from that. They held their own for a big part of that season and we really did need them every week and they really did well.
“I am looking forward to them putting in a big pre-season and taking all the positives out of that 2023 year.”
 
The Seems like the players have really bought in to Benji and his coaching style, even stating that the games he was in charge of this year were their best games. I think we will see a more cohesive team next season with a playing group focused andknowing what is expected from them... Or maybe i've fallen into the pre-season trap. I guess we'll find out in a few months...

Papali'i backs Benji's proven blueprint to lead Tigers turnaround​


The Wests Tigers were at their best when Benji Marshall was the one calling the shots last season according to Isaiah Papali’i, which gives him confidence the club will take a leap in 2024.
With three games remaining last season the club announced Marshall would take over from Tim Sheens as head coach at the conclusion of the campaign, a year earlier than initially planned, with the premiership winner effectively assuming control of the team from that point.

Papali’i said it was at that stage that the side played some of their best football, which included picking up one of their four wins of the season by way of a 24-23 victory over the Dolphins.
That alone gives the 25-year-old Kiwi international reason to believe the future looks much brighter for the club who head into 2024 with back-to-back wooden spoons next to their name.
“We had Benji in the back end of our season and I think that’s where we were our most consistent,” Papali’i told NRL.com.

“Although we weren’t winning [all of that time], you just get that feeling where you feel like you are in the game a bit more and the way we were playing was our type of footy.
“Having Benji at the helm is going to be good, where we are getting a constant message or a constant game plan that is going to be simple for the whole 27 rounds.”
Poor on-field performances, coupled with speculation around the future of Sheens as head coach, ensured the club was under a constant spotlight in 2023, which Papali’i, who just a year earlier had played in grand final with the Eels, admitted made it hard to focus at times.
“All the external noise, as much as you want to block it out, it is a distraction,” he said.
“I think a lot of the boys dealt with it differently and even though it didn’t impact me massively, I think it’s just that little thing in the back of your head.

“Time will tell if that carries on, but I am pretty happy that we have got next season to look forward to because that season was pretty hard.”

Meanwhile Papali’i said the major positive from the 2023 campaign was the number of players the club was able to blood and develop.
The likes of Fonua Pole and Junior Tupou enjoyed strong second seasons in the top grade in '23, while fullback Jahream Bula announced himself as a genuine star of the future with a rookie campaign that included five tries and seven try assists in 18 games.
“That was a very young team we had out there. I remember being young and each week, you don’t understand at the time, but all those experiences, either good or bad, only make you a better player," Papali'i said.

“I think they will look back on the season and understand and take confidence from that. They held their own for a big part of that season and we really did need them every week and they really did well.
“I am looking forward to them putting in a big pre-season and taking all the positives out of that 2023 year.”
Api & Paps have now said similar things. Shows that Sheens was way past it & should have never been appointed.
 
The Seems like the players have really bought in to Benji and his coaching style, even stating that the games he was in charge of this year were their best games. I think we will see a more cohesive team next season with a playing group focused andknowing what is expected from them... Or maybe i've fallen into the pre-season trap. I guess we'll find out in a few months...

Papali'i backs Benji's proven blueprint to lead Tigers turnaround​


The Wests Tigers were at their best when Benji Marshall was the one calling the shots last season according to Isaiah Papali’i, which gives him confidence the club will take a leap in 2024.
With three games remaining last season the club announced Marshall would take over from Tim Sheens as head coach at the conclusion of the campaign, a year earlier than initially planned, with the premiership winner effectively assuming control of the team from that point.

Papali’i said it was at that stage that the side played some of their best football, which included picking up one of their four wins of the season by way of a 24-23 victory over the Dolphins.
That alone gives the 25-year-old Kiwi international reason to believe the future looks much brighter for the club who head into 2024 with back-to-back wooden spoons next to their name.
“We had Benji in the back end of our season and I think that’s where we were our most consistent,” Papali’i told NRL.com.

“Although we weren’t winning [all of that time], you just get that feeling where you feel like you are in the game a bit more and the way we were playing was our type of footy.
“Having Benji at the helm is going to be good, where we are getting a constant message or a constant game plan that is going to be simple for the whole 27 rounds.”
Poor on-field performances, coupled with speculation around the future of Sheens as head coach, ensured the club was under a constant spotlight in 2023, which Papali’i, who just a year earlier had played in grand final with the Eels, admitted made it hard to focus at times.
“All the external noise, as much as you want to block it out, it is a distraction,” he said.
“I think a lot of the boys dealt with it differently and even though it didn’t impact me massively, I think it’s just that little thing in the back of your head.

“Time will tell if that carries on, but I am pretty happy that we have got next season to look forward to because that season was pretty hard.”

Meanwhile Papali’i said the major positive from the 2023 campaign was the number of players the club was able to blood and develop.
The likes of Fonua Pole and Junior Tupou enjoyed strong second seasons in the top grade in '23, while fullback Jahream Bula announced himself as a genuine star of the future with a rookie campaign that included five tries and seven try assists in 18 games.
“That was a very young team we had out there. I remember being young and each week, you don’t understand at the time, but all those experiences, either good or bad, only make you a better player," Papali'i said.

“I think they will look back on the season and understand and take confidence from that. They held their own for a big part of that season and we really did need them every week and they really did well.
“I am looking forward to them putting in a big pre-season and taking all the positives out of that 2023 year.”
Hard to believe what he is saying when the 2 results aside from lucky the 1 point win over reserve grade Dolphins were a 24 point loss to the Roosters and 42 point loss to 12th place Manly.
 
The Wests Tigers were at their best when Benji Marshall was the one calling the shots last season according to Isaiah Papali’i, which gives him confidence the club will take a leap in 2024.

With three games remaining last season the club announced Marshall would take over from Tim Sheens as head coach at the conclusion of the campaign, a year earlier than initially planned, with the premiership winner effectively assuming control of the team from that point.

Papali’i said it was at that stage that the side played some of their best football, which included picking up one of their four wins of the season by way of a 24-23 victory over the Dolphins.

That alone gives the 25-year-old Kiwi international reason to believe the future looks much brighter for the club who head into 2024 with back-to-back wooden spoons next to their name.

“We had Benji in the back end of our season and I think that’s where we were our most consistent,” Papali’i told NRL.com.

“Although we weren’t winning [all of that time], you just get that feeling where you feel like you are in the game a bit more and the way we were playing was our type of footy.

“Having Benji at the helm is going to be good, where we are getting a constant message or a constant game plan that is going to be simple for the whole 27 rounds.”

Poor on-field performances, coupled with speculation around the future of Sheens as head coach, ensured the club was under a constant spotlight in 2023, which Papali’i, who just a year earlier had played in grand final with the Eels, admitted made it hard to focus at times.

“All the external noise, as much as you want to block it out, it is a distraction,” he said.

“I think a lot of the boys dealt with it differently and even though it didn’t impact me massively, I think it’s just that little thing in the back of your head. “Time will tell if that carries on, but I am pretty happy that we have got next season to look forward to because that season was pretty hard.”

Meanwhile Papali’i said the major positive from the 2023 campaign was the number of players the club was able to blood and develop.

The likes of Fonua Pole and Junior Tupou enjoyed strong second seasons in the top grade in '23, while fullback Jahream Bula announced himself as a genuine star of the future with a rookie campaign that included five tries and seven try assists in 18 games.

“That was a very young team we had out there. I remember being young and each week, you don’t understand at the time, but all those experiences, either good or bad, only make you a better player," Papali'i said.

“I think they will look back on the season and understand and take confidence from that. They held their own for a big part of that season and we really did need them every week and they really did well.

“I am looking forward to them putting in a big pre-season and taking all the positives out of that 2023 year.”
 
Hard to believe what he is saying when the 2 results aside from lucky the 1 point win over reserve grade Dolphins were a 24 point loss to the Roosters and 42 point loss to 12th place Manly.
In searching for a positive slant there’s not much to find really when a 1 point win over the Dolphins is top of the list.
I suppose the message is Benji is already better than a 3 times DallyM coach and 4 times premiership winning coach.
The excitement is building and to think we let go Webster, Madge and Cleary? All coaching at teams which finished higher on the ladder than us, to appoint a coach who gave us that momentous 1 point win over a depleted Dolphins.
 
Missed 0 games in 2020
Missed 4 games in 2021
Missed 8 games in 2022
Missed 6 games in 2023 with at least 2 more games playing clearly injured.
Not sure if all were injuries but there’s been a few lately

Looking at that in simple numbers could see a concern however when add in the games he played it could also indicate fatigue role hence why Ivan has been focusing on resting players more last 12ths than before then.

He is still clocking 20 games plus rep games a year. In perspective he played more games than Cleary for the Panthers and a month more than Brooks per season for us the last few seasons.
 
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