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I watched all games in the world cup and he was by far the best player of the tournament. I think you're being biased to prove a point rather than actually analysing what happened. Losing against Australia in the final is not even bad. He was the best player against Greece, France and England, and 3rd best against Tonga after Milford and Suaalii. Sure, Greece and France are cannon fodder, so let's ignore them. But Samoa are a team that has a very low win record in the past decade, and they beat Tonga and England when most people tipped against them. Winning against the host nation England (the team that put 60 on them in the first game) in a semi final is a lot bigger than you're alluding to. It was one of the best IRL games I've ever watched when I woke up in the middle of the night to watch it. It's not purely because of the emotion that it was special, but the historical record of being the first tier 2 nation to make a final
I thought Crichton was clearly their best in the games and moments that mattered and Luai and a few others played well alongside him. Though admittedly didn't watch Samoa beat up on Greece and France.
The SF win was massive historically and an entertaining game but I don't recall being particularly impressed with either sides performance.
Samoa's historical record before the tournament was pretty irrelevant to what the players could achieved. Their entire side had NRL experience, over half had played in an NRL grand final (big game experience). Bouncing out in the quarters or semis would have been considered a disappointing result pretournament and it was only that first loss (after being the last squad in England and little training no warm up game leading in) that tempered expectations. Many forget they actually started favourites in that first game due to the talent in their squad.
Also don't think most tipped against them in either of those finals. From memory they were slight favourites against Tonga and slight outsiders against England.
Anyway, that's not to say Luai isn't a great player. His NRL record and some standout games in Origin and finals is testament to that. He was also one part of the talent that had Samoa expected to put on a good showing in the WC. I just think the "he led them there" thing and that achievement alone overplayed.
 
I thought Crichton was clearly their best in the games and moments that mattered and Luai and a few others played well alongside him. Though admittedly didn't watch Samoa beat up on Greece and France.
The SF win was massive historically and an entertaining game but I don't recall being particularly impressed with either sides performance.
Samoa's historical record before the tournament was pretty irrelevant to what the players could achieved. Their entire side had NRL experience, over half had played in an NRL grand final (big game experience). Bouncing out in the quarters or semis would have been considered a disappointing result pretournament and it was only that first loss (after being the last squad in England and little training no warm up game leading in) that tempered expectations. Many forget they actually started favourites in that first game due to the talent in their squad.
Also don't think most tipped against them in either of those finals. From memory they were slight favourites against Tonga and slight outsiders against England.
Anyway, that's not to say Luai isn't a great player. His NRL record and some standout games in Origin and finals is testament to that. He was also one part of the talent that had Samoa expected to put on a good showing in the WC. I just think the "he led them there" thing and that achievement alone overplayed.
In the England semi final Crichton scored 2 tries and was the field goal kicker in the second half. But he missed a few tackles that led to tries. Luai was good the whole game with 3 try assists and his defence was excellent stopping a few tries as well. I think the field goal kicker automatically being man of the match is a bit of silly logic
 
I thought Crichton was clearly their best in the games and moments that mattered and Luai and a few others played well alongside him. Though admittedly didn't watch Samoa beat up on Greece and France.
The SF win was massive historically and an entertaining game but I don't recall being particularly impressed with either sides performance.
Samoa's historical record before the tournament was pretty irrelevant to what the players could achieved. Their entire side had NRL experience, over half had played in an NRL grand final (big game experience). Bouncing out in the quarters or semis would have been considered a disappointing result pretournament and it was only that first loss (after being the last squad in England and little training no warm up game leading in) that tempered expectations. Many forget they actually started favourites in that first game due to the talent in their squad.
Also don't think most tipped against them in either of those finals. From memory they were slight favourites against Tonga and slight outsiders against England.
Anyway, that's not to say Luai isn't a great player. His NRL record and some standout games in Origin and finals is testament to that. He was also one part of the talent that had Samoa expected to put on a good showing in the WC. I just think the "he led them there" thing and that achievement alone overplayed.
Tonga had just beaten Cook Islands (who aren't great but not as bad as minnows) 92-10. They were in way better form and didn't get slapped 60-6 like Samoa did
 
The Cowboys will be in trouble ..
Tigers should pounce 👀 .. I’d be going after Nanai & Taunoa-Brown

Heilum Luki and Semi Valemei are both players I'd take interest in. if they do have to squeeze players out then I'd definitely be enquiring about Griffin Neame also. big fan of Robert Derby but I think they keep him.
 
luai to wests is now a formality with penrith expected to waive the 10 day cooldown period. jarome is not happy that the news he was leaving immediately was leaked to the press. ivan and his merry band of chimps are developing a reputation among those who have left the club recently for a bit of a scortched earth policy.

also expect olam to be wearing black and orange in the new year with blore headed the other way.

I hope Olam finds form and gets back to his old days if he's coming to the Tigers

Maybe a fresh start elsewhere will do him good
 
The Cowboys will be in trouble ..
Tigers should pounce 👀 .. I’d be going after Nanai & Taunoa-Brown


That Taumalolo deal is really going to come back to bite them. It was a great deal for the first five years, but these last four years coming will be a drain.

It really goes to show that signing any front rower on big money beyond the age of 30 is a MASSIVE risk. Taumalolo has really declined in the last year or two and even this last year you could start to see the decline in Junior Paulo. The AFB and Tino deals may be great for the first half of those contracts but could be an issue in the later years.
 
Heilum Luki and Semi Valemei are both players I'd take interest in. if they do have to squeeze players out then I'd definitely be enquiring about Griffin Neame also. big fan of Robert Derby but I think they keep him.

Don't know too much of Robert Derby

Griffin Neame is abit of a dope

I would take Luki though
 

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