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rugbygoated said:
I'm sure we can find somewhere in the Middle-East where women are respected so much more. Or somewhere in Africa where the children have great opportunity to be educated and live a 'normal' life. Or even somewhere in Russia where it is safe to wave the LGBT flag. If only we had those things here
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They'll criticise, stamp and stomp their feet and complain and whinge and whine yet would be living in no other place on the planet. Notice how they are free to do all that stuff here, the irony shouldn't be lost.
 
Kaito said:
I was a bit defensive in my first post, my apologies.
To answer your original question; I suppose some
holy days, loved ones birthdays & things like that.
It's all really subjective at the end of the day though.
I'm all for people wanting to celebrate whatever
they hold near & dear 2 them. It's nobodies
business besides their own. When we force
things on different people it tends to have the
opposite effect of what we want I've come 2 find
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No need to apologise.

This is more a general, philosophical comment, rather than being directed at you.

I just think that the initial premise of Australia Day was to celebrate the establishment of the first European settlement in Australia. In practice, that's not really what people celebrate. No one is getting out their Arthur Phillip paintings and hailing him as our founder, but that is the reason stated for the offense.

Do we really think changing the date to the 27th will stop people being offended? They are offended at what is being celebrated, or the perception of what is being celebrated, rather than the date I would imagine.

It's unlikely a date change would mean the offense would stop altogether and I think therein lies the problem.

Many are drawing a line in the sand on certain things, because they feel that conceding to the smaller request, will ultimately lead to more and more concessions until nothing is left to concede.

It's a well documented Marxist/Communist political strategy..."Revolution in Permanence". The elephant is eaten piece by piece. The initial request bears no resemblance to the end goal. It is just a task on the path to the ultimate objective. This is done in permanence. Keep getting more, no matter how many concessions you receive until you gain ultimate power.

I remember when these activist groups were saying "all we want is an apology so we can heal". Has anything changed? The activism continues, the offense continues and the requests for concessions continue.
 
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Tucker said:
Australia is far more tolerant than many Islamic nations - especially towards groups such as women and LGBTQIA+ folk.
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That's true. Even Russia/East & Africa are very
hard-line when it comes to LGBTQ+ they think
the west are denigrating the family structure
and that they're full of godless perverts lmao
 
Winston Churchill said:
They'll criticise, stamp and stomp their feet and complain and whinge and whine yet would be living in no other place on the planet. Notice how they are free to do all that stuff here, the irony shouldn't be lost.
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You won't see this level of entitlement from people in third world countries. I believe a lot of it is based on human nature's tendency to create problems when there are none. People in third world countries are figuring out what their next meal is, how they'll escape a war, or where they can sleep at night in the street. Meanwhile, people in Western countries are figuring out if someone truthfully telling you your manhood or womanhood is the end of society, or if belonging to a specific group (something you can't change in most circumstances) makes you by default, privileged or discriminated against on face value
 
weststigers said:
No need to apologise.

This is more a general, philosophical comment, rather than being directed at you.

I just think that the initial premise of Australia Day was to celebrate the establishment of the first European settlement in Australia. In practice, that's not really what people celebrate. No one is getting out their Arthur Phillip paintings and hailing him as our founder, but that is the reason stated for the offense.

Do we really think changing the date to the 27th will stop people being offended? They are offended at what is being celebrated, or the perception of what is being celebrated, rather than the date I would imagine.

It's unlikely a date change would mean the offense would stop altogether and I think therin lies the problem.

Many are drawing a line in the sand on certain things, because they feel that conceding to the smaller request, will ultimately lead to more and more concessions until nothing is left to concede.

It's a well documented Marxist/Communist political strategy..."Revolution in Permanence". The elephant is eaten piece by piece. The initial request bears no resemblence to the end goal. It is just a task on the path the ultimate objective. This is done in permanence. Keep getting more, no matter how many concessions you receive until you gain ultimate power.

I remember when these activist groups were saying "all we want is an apology so we can heal". Has anything changed? The activism continues, the offense continues and the requests for concessions continue.
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Good post, when is enough & is it enough?
and ultimately to what end? I liked this:

"It's a well documented Marxist/Communist political strategy..."Revolution in Permanence". The elephant is eaten piece by piece. The initial request bears no resemblence to the end goal. It is just a task on the path the ultimate objective. This is done in permanence. Keep getting more, no matter how many concessions you receive until you gain ultimate power."

It's giving a lot of credit to certain people who
I don't think know what they even want mate
 
Kaito said:
That's true. Even Russia/East & Africa are very
hard-line when it comes to LGBTQ+ they think
the west are denigrating the family structure
and that they're full of godless perverts lmao
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They feel that threatens their family structure which it does, so by extension their civilisations.

Some originally non western states are having real problems in their societies with falling birth rates etc once impacted by western culture.

Some argue that so called tolerance pushed by the west in their societies under the guise of human rights is for the purposes of supplanting their cultures by western ones in a type of one world concept.
 
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