Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[GNR4LIFE]

I mean dropped completely as in not offered the extra year in his player option or getting sold (although for a good price maybe). I think people are jumping the gun. People still need to remember it's only ROUND 4. Fainu will get game time at 6 or even 7 maybe if Sezer gets injured. Sullivan could have a turn of form. Galvin could be targeted heavily by other teams now that the media have made him a 'superstar' and the pressure will be on him just as it was on Brooks, Schuster, Suaalii and other young talents who were hyped up early on. Galvin has had the perfect start. As of now, my halves combination would be Galvin 7 (right side of the field), Luai 6 (left side) playing like a Munster/Hughes halves combination which is a bit more balanced. Not what Sezer is doing now on the right side. Luai's kicking game isn't as strong and the last thing we need is him kicking on his less dominant side of the field going towards defenders rather than away

It’s bleedingly obvious who our halves will be in 2025. Do we see value in him as a back up? Maybe. But there are clubs out there with much worse halves who could offer him a starting spot for a year.

 

[rugbygoated]

The guy is a key player. Yes we’ve got an abundance of halves but I’d be keeping him involved easily. I’d piss Sullivan off unless he proves otherwise. An old controlled head at the helm of the ship is what we need.

I think the perfect role for him is captaining the NSW cup team at halfback with Sullivan/Fainu as his 5/8. When Luai gets injured in 2025 or if he somehow plays origin again you replace him with a similar experienced left footed half in Sezer. Once Sezer is a bit old and let's say he plays poor in reserve grade, don't offer him a new contract. If he kills it, offer him a 1 or 2 year contract (he'll be quite old by 2026) on low money. No need to overspend particularly with Galvin still waiting for a contract

 

[rugbygoated]

It’s bleedingly obvious who our halves will be in 2025. Do we see value in him as a back up? Maybe. But there are clubs out there with much worse halves who could offer him a starting spot for a year.

That's what I'm talking about. But Sezer has had a very positive contribution to the team and if it continues throughout 2024 we should let him play another year in NSW Cup unless a big offer comes from another team

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I think the perfect role for him is captaining the NSW cup team at halfback with Sullivan/Fainu as his 5/8. When Luai gets injured in 2025

Do you really think he would take that when there are clubs like the Dragons, Titans and Bulldogs in need of halves?

 

[rugbygoated]

Do you really think he would take that when there are clubs like the Dragons, Titans and Bulldogs in need of halves?

Again it would depend on him if he prefers to play reserve grade at the money we offered compared to the money offered by desperate clubs. A tricky but good situation to be in

 

[Tito Santana]

Hey don't knock taree Tito.. god's country

Nah. Forster 4 Life.

 

[rugbygoated]

As we knew when luai was signed, it was very dumb to sign him for 5 years from 2025.... 3 sure. A lot can change in 12 months....

Well if Benji said he would change the culture of the team and be the guy to build the club around, I doubt 3 years would be convincing. I'd prefer Benji to put his full faith and go all in rather than go half hearted. If he didn't believe in Jarome's abilities, don't sign him at all. After all, a number of halves like DCE, Reynolds, and Hunt have got better as they got older

 

[tigermate]

You're wildly overestimating the number of clubs that are set in the halves. Off the top of my head, the Sharks, Dragons, Bulldogs, Titans, Souths and Knights all have reason not to be totally happy with their starting halves and several others have absolutely no depth. $500k is nothing for a starting half nowadays and wouldn't be a disaster for a backup.

In a world where Drew Hutchison, Matt Burton (as a 5/8), Tyson Gamble, Kyle Flanagan, Dean Hawkins, Lachlan Ilias, Tanah Boyd, the reanimated corpse of Kieran Foran, Jamal Fogarty, Ethan Strange, Braydon Trindall and Blaize Talagi (as a 5/8) are all getting starts, we're not going to struggle to find someone to take a punt on Sullivan.

lol.

That’s a big possilble over estimation.

In the world of league and business I’m just conservative and always paranoid.

Someone taking a 4 yr contract is going to want a huge discount.

It’s the length more than the money.

Hope you’re right but I doubt it unless he kills it the next two weeks whilst galvin is out.

If he sucks again we’re fffd

 

[tigertragic]

I don’t think the halves dilemma is a big deal
All halves were signed before Luai agreed
Sezer is signed for this year (+ mutual option)
Latu and bud 1st grade abilities were/are unknown at this stage.
So 2025 it will likely be Luai - 7 and galvin - 6 with Latu 14
Sezer the backup in cup on low contract if he wants to stay
OR
Sezer - 7 and Luai -6 with Galvin 14
Latu the backup in cup
Bud to moved on or happy to be 6 in cup

So in real terms tigers only have one excess half depending on what happens to Sezer next year. The bud contract $$ is the other issue

 

[Odessa]

I was wrong on Olam but not on Sezar... With Juzza I was concerned he was broken, that his body had finally copped enough from the high intensity collisions.he plays with... I thought Melb knew this too sending him to Q cup, but just before the trials I jumped on board everyone else that was positive about him though deep inside. I still had the niging doubt

So many here had written Sezar off, I like all of us had no idea how he wod go... All new recruits are a bit of a gamble but I remained positive with him, wanted to see him have a few runs at least. He's been very good for us lately and no doubt we'll have our tough periods and down time where the team, both players or one or the other all struggle and find it tough, toughest comp in the world and it's hard for these guys to remain at their best... All. We can do is support as much as possible and enjoy these good times - they've been so rare in the recent past

He will get injured soon I have watched him since he was the hottest kid coming through nearly always misses 4/6 games a year

 

[Odessa]

I don’t think the halves dilemma is a big deal
All halves were signed before Luai agreed
Sezer is signed for this year (+ mutual option)
Latu and bud 1st grade abilities were/are unknown at this stage.
So 2025 it will likely be Luai - 7 and galvin - 6 with Latu 14
Sezer the backup in cup on low contract if he wants to stay
OR
Sezer - 7 and Luai -6 with Galvin 14
Latu the backup in cup
Bud to moved on or happy to be 6 in cup

So in real terms tigers only have one excess half depending on what happens to Sezer next year. The bud contract $$ is the other issue

Fulton ok that Bud's $$$$ ?

And Fulton did not want Olam or the Salad

 

[Tim Sheens]

Lomax granted release for 2025, yay or nay boys
& girls? Would walk into the right centre poz but
I'm a bit conflicted personally — good centre pairing
with Olam. Suppose it's a character thing, let's see...

On the fence, depending on how much and how long the Dragons will contribute. Really only any sort of priority if WT have no decent goal kicking options.

 

[2041]

lol.

That’s a big possilble over estimation.

In the world of league and business I’m just conservative and always paranoid.

Someone taking a 4 yr contract is going to want a huge discount.

It’s the length more than the money.

Hope you’re right but I doubt it unless he kills it the next two weeks whilst galvin is out.

If he sucks again we’re fffd

I agree that four years was an overreach. I'll tell you what else is an overreach, though: suggesting we're "f-ed" if Sullivan doesn't play well. As I've said, 500k for a half is peanuts nowadays and it takes a long time for the whole comp to give up on promising young halves. Tyson Gamble is 27, Kyle Flanagan is 25, Drew Hutchison is 28 - all still in or close to first grade despite never having shown much of anything.

The most likely outcome with Sullivan is that he just doesn't play much at all and therefore doesn't get a chance to enhance or reduce his perceived value by much. On this basis, if the Tigers decide he's surplus to requirements at the end of the season every club in the comp will be able to see that it's only because we have a surplus of halves. It's all but inevitable that one of them will think three years at 500k is worth a look based on his potential. Even if we have to pay some freight we'll be talking 100k or so - hardly roster crippling.

I've been hugely against some of the deals the club has given over the years - see what I've said about Nofoaluma or Bateman, for instance. But this one I just don't see hurting us very much, even if it was a misstep.

 

[batboy]

He will get injured soon I have watched him since he was the hottest kid coming through nearly always misses 4/6 games a year

Leeds had concussion concerns was the word....
I don't know if he had a history of them over there.
I think he was out for a play off with one, Before that I have no idea....
Just what I'd heard.

 

[2041]

On the fence, depending on how much and how long the Dragons will contribute. Really only any sort of priority if WT have no decent goal kicking options.

Dragons aren't going to contribute anything: they've released him from 2025, which means he's a free agent after this year and the Dragons have no obligations to him. In theory they might kick something in for 2024 but I can't imagine why they would - they have no incentive to do so.

 

[Canadian Club]

It's also a 2025 problem, plenty can happen between now and then anyway. It's only round 5.

With the desperation for halves around the NRL and Super League at the moment, it shouldn't be too hard to offload whoever is the underperformer of the group.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Dragons aren't going to contribute anything: they've released him from 2025, which means he's a free agent after this year and the Dragons have no obligations to him. In theory they might kick something in for 2024 but I can't imagine why they would - they have no incentive to do so.

So no more splinters for me and onto the next prospect.

 

[tigermate]

I agree that four years was an overreach. I'll tell you what else is an overreach, though: suggesting we're "f-ed" if Sullivan doesn't play well. As I've said, 500k for a half is peanuts nowadays and it takes a long time for the whole comp to give up on promising young halves. Tyson Gamble is 27, Kyle Flanagan is 25, Drew Hutchison is 28 - all still in or close to first grade despite never having shown much of anything.

The most likely outcome with Sullivan is that he just doesn't play much at all and therefore doesn't get a chance to enhance or reduce his perceived value by much. On this basis, if the Tigers decide he's surplus to requirements at the end of the season every club in the comp will be able to see that it's only because we have a surplus of halves. It's all but inevitable that one of them will think three years at 500k is worth a look based on his potential. Even if we have to pay some freight we'll be talking 100k or so - hardly roster crippling.

I've been hugely against some of the deals the club has given over the years - see what I've said about Nofoaluma or Bateman, for instance. But this one I just don't see hurting us very much, even if it was a misstep.

agree to disagree

time will tell

I think we'll have to chip in circa $250K bc other clubs will know we're desperate to upgrade the likes of Galvin etc and they'll smell blood.

in saying that -- i hope you're right and i'm wrong.

lets see.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Lomax granted release for 2025, yay or nay boys
& girls? Would walk into the right centre poz but
I'm a bit conflicted personally — good centre pairing
with Olam. Suppose it's a character thing, let's see...

Leaving $800k a year with a guaranteed wing spot and a coastal lifestyle? It seems a bit entitled considering he hasn't established himself as a rep player.

 

[Tito Santana]

I was wrong on Olam but not on Sezar... With Juzza I was concerned he was broken, that his body had finally copped enough from the high intensity collisions.he plays with... I thought Melb knew this too sending him to Q cup, but just before the trials I jumped on board everyone else that was positive about him though deep inside. I still had the niging doubt

So many here had written Sezar off, I like all of us had no idea how he wod go... All new recruits are a bit of a gamble but I remained positive with him, wanted to see him have a few runs at least. He's been very good for us lately and no doubt we'll have our tough periods and down time where the team, both players or one or the other all struggle and find it tough, toughest comp in the world and it's hard for these guys to remain at their best... All. We can do is support as much as possible and enjoy these good times - they've been so rare in the recent past

Nup. I hailed the signing from the get go.

If Alaimalo fires, it’s three stars for Tito. I note Solo is on the extended bench. Almost there Tito almost there.