Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[batboy]

Aren’t they all in the 17 this week?

to replace a guy in the 17 … you need to bring in a guy currently outside the 17…

it’s just maths

What happens when Bateman is back?
Ice Out 'next year' Bateman in...
Still no top 17 spot 'on an edge' for a middle forward....

Next?

edit: I really don't know why you keep talking about replacing an International Back Rower,
With a reserve grade middle forward....

But if you could stop, It would be way more funner....

 

[Tom Shines]

What happens when Bateman is back?
Ice Out 'next year' Bateman in...
Still no top 17 spot 'on an edge' for a middle forward....

Next?

Time will tell if they keep picking Bateman … deserves to be dropped on current form

 

[batboy]

Time will tell if they keep picking Bateman … deserves to be dropped on current form

That may be so,
But even on current form - He's in the 17 before Sione....
Especially at Back Row

 

[Tom Shines]

That may be so,
But even on current form - He's in the 17 before Sione....
Especially at Back Row

Yeah they just love Bateman at present …

So much that the CEO has just taken an urgent mid week flight to the UK to try to unload him..,

Sounds like a guy very much in their plans

 

[crazycat]

We have Doueihi off contract saving us $600,000 also Ice which saves us $750,000 as he asked for the release, other players off contract are Simpkin, Kepaoa,we also save $350,000 on Noffas contract as we are paying him $ 150, 000 for this year & next plus Toupou which saves us a bit & a few others off contract. I can also see us getting rid of a few players which might help a bit hopefully.

That's a fair amount of money off contract.

We have to punt Ice, but it is a crap look for us when a talented player comes here and goes backwards.

that's over 1.5m we can play with. We should be able to hire some strong forwards and muscle as we need to replace Ice.

IMHO, this is not the time to punt Bateman. Sure if we could upgrade him, but I don't think there is anyone on the market we could upgrade him too.

If we loose too many in the front row. Good forwards won't come here to be a punching bag.

 

[Furious1]

Ethan Strange is better than both Galvin and Latu at this stage. Shame he is not here instead.

Its hard to judge Latu given he has been injured and has not played 5/8. They both have potential, Galvin appears slow and as his body fills out more and more muscle goes on the frame I'm not so sure he will remain in the halves.

 

[batboy]

Yeah they just love Bateman at present …

So much that the CEO has just taken an urgent mid week flight to the UK to try to unload him..,

Sounds like a guy very much in their plans

See Above.....

In no world - Are they (Or anyone else with a Brain) replacing 'Either' Current International Edge Forward,
With your reserve Grade Middle Forward....

I'm sorry, They're just not.

 

[crazycat]

Right now, It's Sullivan for me....
If Doueihi sticks around (In another position) then Latu is next for mine...
He'd be decent back up, But decent back up (In the halves) shouldn't cost more than 300k

Could also squeeze a couple more years out of Sezer on a lower contract for back up next year..

I think Sezer is the decent backup, not Doueihi

The one thing we have seen is that Sezer, has done a job of a halfback. Sure a poorer job then other halfbacks, but we actually see him act as a halfback.

Having him around means Luai and others can actually benefit from experience. I also think a crusier ride may suit Sezer.

 

[Tom Shines]

See Above.....

In no world - Are they (Or anyone else with a Brain) replacing 'Either' Current International Edge Forward,
With your reserve Grade Middle Forward....

I'm sorry, They're just no

All I said he is in their Top 17…when Ice gets moved on …looking at the current squad

Good chance Bateman has played his last game for the WT …certainly wouldn’t surprise me if Sione plays more games than him the rest of this season …

 

[InBulaWeTrust]

the reality is, Fully fit - There's no spot for him here for the next few years.

There are spots though. Both 5/8 if Galvin goes to lock. Or lock if Galvin stays at 5/8. Both perfect positions for them once healthy. A great situation to be. But you want to throw the cot when he hasn't even had the chance to play healthy in a position he has played in.

Hating just to hate on a 19 year old.

 

[InBulaWeTrust]

See Above.....

In no world - Are they (Or anyone else with a Brain) replacing 'Either' Current International Edge Forward,
With your reserve Grade Middle Forward....

I'm sorry, They're just not.

The

"Current International Edge Forward"

Is playing like a sub on a reserve grade side. He has no reason to be in the team. Sione in his limited impact has a larger impact on the game then Bateman has all year barring two games where he was good in patches

 

[Nonotmeagain]

if latu wants to play in the halves and so does Galvin, they can't both be here in years to come now we have luai

Is there an out in Luai's contract ? For $1.2M he's going to have to be 2 as good as Latu for the next 5 years at least!

 

[Nonotmeagain]

Yeah they just love Bateman at present …

So much that the CEO has just taken an urgent mid week flight to the UK to try to unload him..,

Sounds like a guy very much in their plans

Do we know that ? The CEO hasn't said so ? And if Bateman doesn't want to go back yet ??

 

[Halbrowne61]

Is there an out in Luai's contract ? For $1.2M he's going to have to be 2 as good as Latu for the next 5 years at least!

I imagine there’s an out clause, I just don’t think we could afford it !

 

[Tom Shines]

Do we know that ? The CEO hasn't said so ? And if Bateman doesn't want to go back yet ??

You mean the CEO hasn’t come out and publicly named the players he is shopping around?

let’s wait and see what happens … the whole situation of him taking this trip is at best very unusual …

 

[Glenji95]

Ethan Strange is better than both Galvin and Latu at this stage. Shame he is not here instead.

Its hard to judge Latu given he has been injured and has not played 5/8. They both have potential, Galvin appears slow and as his body fills out more and more muscle goes on the frame I'm not so sure he will remain in the halves.

I think in a few years Galvin might become a backrower, unfortunately he just doesn’t have the speed that is needed to be a half full time. Unless he’s willing to try and get his speed up I reckon by 2027 at the latest he’ll be a backrower. Galvin is still our best 6 for now but I think if Latu can remain injury free he’ll be our half with Luai by 2026-27.

 

[Tiger Stripes]

That's a fair amount of money off contract.

We have to punt Ice, but it is a crap look for us when a talented player comes here and goes backwards.

that's over 1.5m we can play with. We should be able to hire some strong forwards and muscle as we need to replace Ice.

IMHO, this is not the time to punt Bateman. Sure if we could upgrade him, but I don't think there is anyone on the market we could upgrade him too.

If we loose too many in the front row. Good forwards won't come here to be a punching bag.

All forwards are punching bags, they do it because they want to make space for the backs.
That is where we let them down!

 

[Tiger Stripes]

You mean the CEO hasn’t come out and publicly named the players he is shopping around?

let’s wait and see what happens … the whole situation of him taking this trip is at best very unusual …

Unusual when compared with our last CEO and Pascoe, yes.
But a hands on approach is like this is a breath of fresh air at the moment. Richo our best salesman?
Effort and future planning being played out I imagine [ and successfully, fingers crossed]

 

[Juice]

He is 19 years old …and been here only for a few months … gotta give him a chance …there are guys in their early 20s who have been here for years that seem as far away from NRL standard as ever ..

i was also under the impression that he “develops “ into the $500k a year deal down the road..I thought he was on $250k this season ..

The hamstrings are a concern though … he has been hampered by that since he got here and that can be tough to shake… not a great injury to have at a young age …

Fainu was earning about $300k at manly I’m surprised he would move to the wooden spooners for $50k less than what he was on. I can believe he isn’t on $500k yet & will be upgraded as the years progress but does anyone have a link or remember an article saying $250k?

 

[Tom Shines]

Unusual when compared with our last CEO and Pascoe, yes.
But a hands on approach is like this is a breath of fresh air at the moment. Richo our best salesman?
Effort and future planning being played out I imagine [ and successfully, fingers crossed]

Something needs to change so I don’t hate it …

Although it does seem at cross purposes with other comments he has made about how 80 percent of the team is already present at the club ..and develop from within etc… this is a very slow way to turn around a club like ours and he has now been there long enough to assess all the younger talent already there …so perhaps he may have changed his mind about this ..

Look at the end of the day… I just want them to win more football games …it’s the only thing that matters ..everything else is just fluff … whatever it takes to make this happen I’m fine with …