Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Needaname]

St George Reserve grader Tuipolotu pperforming better with 3 tries in 45 minutes than our wingers collectively all year. Why didnt someone buy him instead of Staines, Lobb etc

I was thinking about this as well.
He wasn’t exactly available at the start of the season.
Though Flanno being part of the coaching staff last year might have had some insight to what his future was at Manly.
We have been jipped every time regarding Tuipolotu.
He was our target at the Roosters back when there was talk of making way some players for SBW instead the Roosters release Kepoa to us not willing to release Tuipolotu.
Yet next year he is released to Manly.
Makes my blood boil.

 

[Needaname]

Kotoni Staggs is free to negotiate come November 1st, would most likely mean seeing him come in 2026. What would you say is a fair contract to offer someone like Staggs? Personally I’d say around $800,000 - $850,000 for around 3-4 years would be the most realistic. He is already currently on $750,000 so it’s pretty unlikely he’d take less unless he goes to a good club and as for age he’d be 27 or 28 by that time. Thoughts?

May just be the sort of signing we need to make.
Has a bit of Dane Gagai to Souths about it.

 

[Finger]

I'd like to see Benji tell douiehi that he's dropped to NSW cup, and he'll be playing lock. He needs to make at least 30 tackles a week, with a tackle efficiency of 90% and 100m+ every week for 3 weeks in a row before he can get another look in first grade.
See if he's actually a leader or just a loser

I wish, do it Benji.

 

[426Tlgerland]

Staggs won’t leave brisbane , loves it up hear , he would be a titan , Dolphin or Bronk , no way he goes out of QLD

 

[TigerSJ]

Doueihi will drop himself to KOE next week if he lives by his own words.

"The more I get close to the boys in these next few weeks and the more I can take charge of the team, I can sort of be that dominant figure and help pull some of these younger blokes in line and show them what the standards are at this club."

"If they're not living up to the standards that I feel and the other leaders feel are the benchmark, then they can go and sit back in reserve grade as far as I'm concerned."

Returning star's blunt message to battling Tigers

'Pull these younger blokes into line'

www.nine.com.au

Missed this comment from Doueihi at the time. Wow this bloke has such an inflated opinion of himself - it’s embarrassing.
Funny thing is, I was so hoping that he’d come back with all the right stuff after his first game, but it didn’t take long for his past typical form to resurface.
Talk about having a good look at yourself in the mirror!!

 

[Squater]

Lollll

He ll win lots of comps with the fins. The guys a joke on us PUNT HIM HARD

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Morning Paws
If you look at East they know look after the central coast and the Storm look after the Sunshine coast in Qld and they promote heavily in both regions, and this is there way of getting around the debate about Junior Clubs.

West Tigers are not anyone else's problem but are own, Balmain neglected there areas well before the merger and Western Suburbs butchered Campbelltown before the merger as well.

Thanks for the reply. I understood the NRL had a charter to expand the game? We are ignoring the soon to be major population centre of Australia (Melb/Vic) with the wonderful talent available in that State. The Eastern Suburbs of Sydney is densely populated and the NRL should be mandating both clubs invest in the sport in their respective areas.

We need to examine the reasons why both clubs refuse to invest in juniors in their respective areas. Three which come to mind are

1. It takes money to invest in junior leagues, to administer them and importantly to be pro-active to prevent poaching from other clubs; it is easier to poach the juniors of other clubs who invest in their districts. Even if you are pro-active and retain star juniors as we have experienced, this does not prevent approaches to players to unsettle them with the lure of playing for powerful clubs who win premierships noting they may not be winning premierships if forced to establish and maintain junior leagues. It will however expand the talent pool available in the NRL>

2. Establishing junior leagues will not guarantee immediate success. Sponsors, supporters in both Melbourne and the Eastern Suburbs expect immediate results. Why invest in a longer-term strategy when it is easier to continue what is currently happening.

3. The NRL has been unwilling to mandate x number of junior clubs as a pre-requisite for ongoing membership of the NRL. What is the incentive for these clubs to change?

 

[Demps]

He ll win lots of comps with the fins. The guys a joke on us PUNT HIM HARD

Good luck to em.

Seems like Stef will go anywhere that'll have him.

 

[TigerSJ]

In other news……
Kevin Walters storming out of his dressing room after the game mad at his players fir their inconsistent efforts in their close loss last night. Meninga commentating that they aren’t winning because of problems with their roster rather than execution issues.
Wow I wish we had their “roster problems”.

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

In other news……
Kevin Walters storming out of his dressing room after the game mad at his players fir their inconsistent efforts in their close loss last night. Meninga commentating that they aren’t winning because of problems with their roster rather than execution issues.
Wow I wish we had their “roster problems”.

Maybe Mal can be the next immortal.

 

[LUPO]

There simply aren't the players required in the market to undertake a slash and burn of our playing ranks. Until the NRL start to address the issue with the Roosters and the Storm, the problem will continue. Each club should be required as a condition of ongoing participation in the NRL to have a minimum of 50 junior clubs in its local area ie the Eastern Suburbs of Sydney and Melbourne. The Eastern Suburbs of Sydney has 8,800 people per square km while Melbourne will be Australia's most populated city by 2030. What has the Storm done to promote junior rugby league in Melbourne/Vic in over 25 years of its existence? How is the expansion of junior rugby league progressing in the Eastern Suburbs of Sydney? Simply, increase participation of juniors in these areas to increase the talent pool. Victoria has wonderful female and male athletes the NRL should be encouraging to take up the game.

Thanks for the reply. I understood the NRL had a charter to expand the game? We are ignoring the soon to be major population centre of Australia (Melb/Vic) with the wonderful talent available in that State. The Eastern Suburbs of Sydney is densely populated and the NRL should be mandating both clubs invest in the sport in their respective areas.

We need to examine the reasons why both clubs refuse to invest in juniors in their respective areas. Three which come to mind are

1. It takes money to invest in junior leagues, to administer them and importantly to be pro-active to prevent poaching from other clubs; it is easier to poach the juniors of other clubs who invest in their districts. Even if you are pro-active and retain star juniors as we have experienced, this does not prevent approaches to players to unsettle them with the lure of playing for powerful clubs who win premierships noting they may not be winning premierships if forced to establish and maintain junior leagues. It will however expand the talent pool available in the NRL>

2. Establishing junior leagues will not guarantee immediate success. Sponsors, supporters in both Melbourne and the Eastern Suburbs expect immediate results. Why invest in a longer-term strategy when it is easier to continue what is currently happening.

3. The NRL has been unwilling to mandate x number of junior clubs as a pre-requisite for ongoing membership of the NRL. What is the incentive for these clubs to change?

Thanks for the reply. I understood the NRL had a charter to expand the game? We are ignoring the soon to be major population centre of Australia (Melb/Vic) with the wonderful talent available in that State. The Eastern Suburbs of Sydney is densely populated and the NRL should be mandating both clubs invest in the sport in their respective areas.

We need to examine the reasons why both clubs refuse to invest in juniors in their respective areas. Three which come to mind are

1. It takes money to invest in junior leagues, to administer them and importantly to be pro-active to prevent poaching from other clubs; it is easier to poach the juniors of other clubs who invest in their districts. Even if you are pro-active and retain star juniors as we have experienced, this does not prevent approaches to players to unsettle them with the lure of playing for powerful clubs who win premierships noting they may not be winning premierships if forced to establish and maintain junior leagues. It will however expand the talent pool available in the NRL>

2. Establishing junior leagues will not guarantee immediate success. Sponsors, supporters in both Melbourne and the Eastern Suburbs expect immediate results. Why invest in a longer-term strategy when it is easier to continue what is currently happening.

3. The NRL has been unwilling to mandate x number of junior clubs as a pre-requisite for ongoing membership of the NRL. What is the incentive for these clubs to

Stop the rorting of the salary cap or get rid of it.. it’s not an even playing field. From 2000 to 2023 either the Rorters or Storm have played in 16 out of 23 grand finals. Wake up Vlandys

 

[TSP]

Little doubt the club is in at least a minor panic about the results and increasing criticism.

The two responses available is either more spin or to ride it out.

As a club member I would understand if Benji felt minded to send some messages out to our senior players.

When you apologise and express remorse, that’s all Ok, but you should do something concerted to correct the error if you can.

If players get a leave pass, it’s not sending a strong enough message.

I’ve read the calls for his sacking in the media, but i think that depends on the balance of the season and the politics.

At the start of the season, Richo was gushing in his praise of Benji.

To get flogged senseless by a side we beat at the start of the year kind of indicates that things aren’t ok.

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

Stop the rorting of the salary cap or get rid of it.. it’s not an even playing field. From 2000 to 2023 either the Rorters or Storm have played in 16 out of 23 grand finals. Wake up Vlandys

Baddabing Baddaboom!

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

Little doubt the club is in at least a minor panic about the results and increasing criticism.

The two responses available is either more spin or to ride it out.

As a club member I would understand if Benji felt minded to send some messages out to our senior players.

When you apologise and express remorse, that’s all Ok, but you should do something concerted to correct the error if you can.

If players get a leave pass, it’s not sending a strong enough message.

I’ve read the calls for his sacking in the media, but i think that depends on the balance of the season and the politics.

At the start of the season, Richo was gushing in his praise of Benji.

You believe the media??? Believing the media or the stuff they come up with.... feels the same as coming last......

 

[Halbrowne61]

Little doubt the club is in at least a minor panic about the results and increasing criticism.

The two responses available is either more spin or to ride it out.

As a club member I would understand if Benji felt minded to send some messages out to our senior players.

When you apologise and express remorse, that’s all Ok, but you should do something concerted to correct the error if you can.

If players get a leave pass, it’s not sending a strong enough message.

I’ve read the calls for his sacking in the media, but i think that depends on the balance of the season and the politics.

At the start of the season, Richo was gushing in his praise of Benji.

To get flogged senseless by a side we beat at the start of the year kind of indicates that things aren’t ok.

I’m still trying to actually work out what happened v Cronulla then Parra earlier in the season ?
How did we win those two games, especially the ( ok I know Parra re crap now but they weren’t being spoken about like that then) ? And what’s gone wrong ?

 

[TSP]

You believe the media??? Believing the media or they stuff they come up with.... feels the same as coming last......

I try to be objective, but fall short to emotion and frustration like everyone else.

There are multiple impediments to sacking Benji. He was supposed to be a good coach, but I think at least 33% of the Tigers rank and file held reservations based on his lack of coaching pedigree, his matey and dodgy appointment, who his role models were (Tim esp) , his involvement with the selection of the current roster, his image conscious media profile, his over-reliance on his wonderful career. Then we find out he leaves work early ( no one I know does that), mid season family holidays, joyless and matter of fact press conferences after the latest shafting, players in decline instead of improvement etc

I can’t be more objective than that AHX.

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

I’m still trying to actually work out what happened v Cronulla then Parra earlier in the season ?
How did we win those two games, especially the ( ok I know Parra re crap now but they weren’t being spoken about like that then) ? And what’s gone wrong ?

The leadership did/does not have the follow through experience. The players showed up

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

I try to be objective, but fall short to emotion and frustration like everyone else.

There are multiple impediments to sacking Benji. He was supposed to be a good coach, but I think at least 33% of the Tigers rank and file held reservations based on his lack of coaching pedigree, his matey and dodgy appointment who his role models were, his involvement with the selection of the current roster, his image conscious media profile, his over-reliance on his wonderful career. Then we find out he leaves work early ( no one I know does that), mid season family holidays, joyless and matter of fact press conferences after the latest shafting, players in decline instead of improvement etc

I can’t be more objective than that AHX.

I was talking about the media. Not you. You make sense much more than the media.

 

[TSP]

Letter to Richo just sent:

 

[Halbrowne61]

Letter to Richo just sent:

View attachment 13681

Pity you won’t get a response !
Do we have Benjis e mail ? Then we could cut out the middle man !