Tom Shines
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Yes … not sure of your point ? I’m certainly not gunna argue that they are not the worst team in the comp at the moment …
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Yes … not sure of your point ? I’m certainly not gunna argue that they are not the worst team in the comp at the moment …
The point is our current players in our key positions who we need and expect to be superstars are not really superstars, so our only chance of success is to have a very good team around them and we cannot afford any passengers.
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Tom Shines
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well… they won’t be winning any premierships soon like the other team did…In fact ..I don’t expect much improvement next year unless further new players are added ..they will still be bottom or close to it even with JL here
Buttface
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The diff with 2010 and 11 was Steve Folkes as assistant/fitness trainer.
Steve Folkes left to coach Oz women I think it was. Surely we could have offered more for him to stay?
Anyway I reckon if it wasn’t for Folkes we would’ve missed the 8 in 2010/11 too and our history would be 1 top 8 from a quarter of a century. As it is, it’s 3 top 8 finishes from a quarter of a century.
Makes it sound a long time when you say it like that.
Tucker
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I agree, API’s effect on attack is being nullified by having to perform 50 tackles every week. Sezer is in and out of the team like a yo yo, which is reflected in his form, Galvin is a total greenhorn who is busy but ineffective and Bula struggles for consistency not just week to week but during games also.
Ours
Our spine is awful and is marginally strengthened by the arrival of Luai but we need more. I’m hoping Fainu and TDS can help with Bula fulfilling his potential. Galvin to be our hardworking lock.
Ours
Our spine is awful and is marginally strengthened by the arrival of Luai but we need more. I’m hoping Fainu and TDS can help with Bula fulfilling his potential. Galvin to be our hardworking lock.
Tom Shines
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Good point about Folkes ..can’t recall why he left …did he get another coaching job? ( I know he has passed away unfortunately)
Another thing I recall about the 2010-11 teams ..like 2005 ..is that they were down the bottom of the table mid season and strung together a number of games over the second half of the season to finish in the Top 4 …
They have never had a season where they have been near the top of the table all the way through … they are the anti Melbourne Storm … imagine one whole season where they are leading the comp all the way through …. Think the crowds might be going ok then ..
BlackWhiteGold
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Like you, I'm continually racking my brain on the types of players to make a difference for us. Yep we're constrained by roster spots but if we can open up 1 to 3 spots (and I'm factoring that Stef is gone), I'd consider any of the following ...
Royce Hunt - size, power, experience, aggression, even if it's for 30 mins each game.
Buny Afoa - off contract in '25, down Warriors pecking order, leg speed, aggression & strong/efficient defender.
Jack Williams - lock, workhorse, effective defender, energy, ballplaying, can slot into backrow too.
Reimis Smith - right centre, solid, reasonably fast, tall, from a winning system, off contract.
Looking as much for leadership, work ethic, desire as traits to help develop our young squad.
In addition to an experienced assistant coach (interesting that Brent Read is on this as he gets some inside mail from Richo) & someone new to drive our S&C standards.
851
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I agree, Madge has one style and one style only, if he doesn't have the team for that style, he tries playing it anyway, he is no great coach
Tom Shines
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Royce Hunt … please sign …somewhere …
dazza65
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Hey guys. We are shit and continue to be shit.
However, at least we are not Parramatta 😀
However, at least we are not Parramatta 😀
mikey
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Agree with the last two but the others at least on a par.
Sounds decent, but if Stef leaves as expected we probably need one bigger name prop such as NAS or Daniel Saifiti.
Obviously with NAS we would be getting the older, past his best injury proned version, but his size, aggression and presence would likely help build the confidence and inspire our other forwards.
Daniel Saifiti some could say is only a slightly better version of Klemmer, but he is very consistent, doesn’t take a backward step, doesn’t get dominated by any opponent and has an offload and pass in his game which is something our current props rarely do.
He knocks defenders over like bowling pins, we haven’t had anyone do that since Sironen, Roach and Bruiser Clark.
Maybe the club needs to stop focusing on signing new players & starting focusing on why players that come here regress (apart from Api). Also why is it that so many players leave & hit career best form… Talau has been 1 of the signings of the season on a low-ball contract because how bad he looked last year. Blore & Brooks also been good for the most part, I’m sure Papalii will be back to one of the best 2nd rowers next season when he joins Penrith.
It’s good to see guys like Pole, Fainu + Galvin trying hard but if the team constantly keeps losing they will stop caring too so the cycle continues until they leave revive their careers. Stefano is just another example of this now. there is a reason Bellamy wants him badly, I guarantee if he goes to storm he’ll be playing for NSW in either 25/26
It’s good to see guys like Pole, Fainu + Galvin trying hard but if the team constantly keeps losing they will stop caring too so the cycle continues until they leave revive their careers. Stefano is just another example of this now. there is a reason Bellamy wants him badly, I guarantee if he goes to storm he’ll be playing for NSW in either 25/26
Tom Shines
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maybe they might get Fonua Blake and Haas as well
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You're thinking of 11...
10 we kicked off with winning 4/5 or some such...
Beat Manly first up, Gareths first try (From Memory)?
BlackWhiteGold
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If we can get either back to somewhere near their best form that a big YES but we don't have a history of doing that. Maybe I've been wrecked by Packer, Tamou & Klemmer in recent times lol
I personally think if we gave someone like Royce Hunt an opportunity to be the main man in our pack next season, he would take his game to the next level.
With Hunt & Pole as starting props, Jack Williams at lock (with Klemmer, Twal, Seyfarth, Matamua, Sione Fainu, Jordan Miller in the mix on the bench).
I’ve got a few theories on why this happens, the main one being if takes virtually a full team of committed players running the ball harder and tackling harder than their opposition to assert their dominance and get on the front foot like the good teams regularly do.
We no doubt have our fair share of players capable of doing this, but we also have some that are not capable or mostly not willing to do it.
When a few are not up to it or not willing, it’s very deflating for the ones that are capable and willing.
What is your theory or reasoning behind it ?
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Tom Shines
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started 4-1 and then dropped 4 in a row … but yeah ..after that they were pretty consistent… better than I remembered..probably their best play over any one whole season
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