We are changing; for the better. It's tough now, but the right decisions are being made to undo all the previous bad management.

Harsh comment. I think that taking an opportunity to move Bateman on 2 years early and achieve cap space and roster space far outweighs any secondary benefit that another club might get.
Do u don’t think it’s a bad look for the club and the young kids looking on , I like u don’t know the ins and outs of the deal but again no info from the club , not a good look
 
Can u give me some names because I can’t see any
I've suprised myself...

Look how bloody young our team is just this weekend.

Starting Team:
Laulilii - Age 18
Galvin - Age 18
Latu Fainu - Age 19
Samuela Fainu - Age 20
Bula- Age 22
Fanua Pole - Age 22
Faataape - Age 23

Reserves:
Da Silva - Age 19
Sione Fainu - Age 23

Extended Bench:
Heath Mason - Age 19
Matamua - Age 21
Sukar - Age 22
 
I've suprised myself...

Look how bloody young our team is just this weekend.

Starting Team:
Laulilii - Age 18
Galvin - Age 18
Latu Fainu - Age 19
Samuela Fainu - Age 20
Bula- Age 22
Fanua Pole - Age 22
Faataape - Age 23

Reserves:
Da Silva - Age 19
Sione Fainu - Age 23

Extended Bench:
Heath Mason - Age 19
Matamua - Age 21
Sukar - Age 22
Well here’s my take on the list
Laulilii- has no pace and hands like flippers
Galvin - will be gone as soon as he can
Faataape - he has tried hard , but hes not 1st grade
Matamua - has had heaps of chances , but he’s not up to it
Sukar- we haven’t seen him in 1st grade but not burning it up in nsw cup
The rest are very good players , but there’s only 3 forwards in that bunch and a hooker , where’s the rest coming from , that’s my point
 
There's still a long way between now & next season. But can people understand the irony of everything that's going on atm? Papali's whole tenure here people kept calling him Blair 2.0 saying his hearts never in it, club moves him on bang "how could we do this?" etc etc etc. People have been complaining about Bateman for weeks he goes back to England bang people blowing up again. People keep going on about signings but don't realise roster spots don't just come for free, the club is actively trying to move on players to give ourselves room to sign players.
This annoys me no end
If yiure going to complain about hypocritical forum members saying one thing one week and another later on.... Post some quotes
It's more often than not different people saying different things
 
Well here’s my take on the list
Laulilii- has no pace and hands like flippers
Galvin - will be gone as soon as he can
Faataape - he has tried hard , but hes not 1st grade
Matamua - has had heaps of chances , but he’s not up to it
Sukar- we haven’t seen him in 1st grade but not burning it up in nsw cup
The rest are very good players , but there’s only 3 forwards in that bunch and a hooker , where’s the rest coming from , that’s my point
I dont think you can judge players under 20 years of age as to whether they will cut it in first grade long term.

And when you make comments like "he will leave as soon as he can" re Galvin, you're just projecting your own insecurities about the club. You're full of emotion and guessing.
 
I dont think you can judge players under 20 years of age as to whether they will cut it in first grade long term.

And when you make comments like "he will leave as soon as he can" re Galvin, you're just projecting your own insecurities about the club. You're full of emotion and guessing.
Do u think Galvin won’t jump at the 1st chase , I am been realistic maybe u should try it 😜
Having coached a few kids who made it at Penrith over the years , I think I can judge talent when it comes to that
 
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There's still a long way between now & next season. But can people understand the irony of everything that's going on atm? Papali's whole tenure here people kept calling him Blair 2.0 saying his hearts never in it, club moves him on bang "how could we do this?" etc etc etc. People have been complaining about Bateman for weeks he goes back to England bang people blowing up again. People keep going on about signings but don't realise roster spots don't just come for free, the club is actively trying to move on players to give ourselves room to sign players.
No coincidence in my mind that our defence was much better when IP and Bateman were both in the side - both playing 80 and consistently averaging 35 - 40 tackles - we have no one to take on that load. Yet they were expected then to make tackle busting runs on top of that or people thought they were underperforming.
Not surprised that retaining players has become a problem.
 
Do u don’t think it’s a bad look for the club and the young kids looking on , I like u don’t know the ins and outs of the deal but again no info from the club , not a good look

I am not sure BP, I sort of think that where the club is right now, any onlooker would have to see that another 2 years of Bateman isn’t going to help us get where we need to go. So the club being a bit ruthless in trying to move him on might be seen as the club making tough decisions and not settling for mediocrity or caring about outward impressions, in order to bring about necessary changes.
As for the young ones perhaps it’s a pathway to opportunity and a lesson that doesn’t matter who you are, the club insists on success.
 
If you were Galvin would you stay? The guy deserves better. A shot at the title at least. Wont happen from the bottom of the ladder.
There is no way he ‘deserves’ a shot at a title. He’s been in first grade for 20 minutes. Beyond effort which is 100%, he is only doing roughly half of what a top line 5/8 needs to do.

The hype of anyone who shows promise in our team is beyond crazy.
 
Well here’s my take on the list
Laulilii- has no pace and hands like flippers
Galvin - will be gone as soon as he can
Faataape - he has tried hard , but hes not 1st grade
Matamua - has had heaps of chances , but he’s not up to it
Sukar- we haven’t seen him in 1st grade but not burning it up in nsw cup
The rest are very good players , but there’s only 3 forwards in that bunch and a hooker , where’s the rest coming from , that’s my point
The concern is due to there being nobody obvious available on the open market. I get that.

But when a respected CEO has nearly $3 million dollars to spend on forwards and one of the best spines on paper in the comp, things will no doubt eventuate.

Some disagree, so we will see.
 
Yep so weve let the best player in his position walk and are celebrating his replacement, by definition not as good, to be a part of the recovery.
This is happening in other positions as well.
Who's celebrating his replacement/s?
 
Do u think Galvin won’t jump at the 1st chase , I am been realistic maybe u should try it 😜
Having coached a few kids who made it at Penrith over the years , I think I can judge talent when it comes to that
Judging talent and reading minds are very different things.
 
I’m just over it with all the negative posters regarding this topic in general.

If you’re telling me that back in February you were blind to the fact that our roster was the worst in the league, that our rookie coach and staff around him were at best a very risky approach to take and that any worthwhile rebuild would take significant time and effort … than all I can say you deserve the apparent surprise at the performance / outcome/ disappointment you are experiencing.

My suggestion is bring a little more reality to your expectations and you may survive this transition period much better.
 
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