Tucker, with respect, because I do have respect for your opinion although I sometimes disagree with the way you express it. My one and only point was there is not a shred of hard evidence that Burgess or Romero are advocating a return of the Magpies to NRL level. Yes, they have power but, until there is proof that they are working to return the Magpies, they are in my opinion guilty of incompetence and shoring up their power base. Nothing more. That was my point and why I defended the Magpies. I'd like nothing more than to see them both moved on. If anyone has proof that are working on returning the Magpies to the NRL I'll be the first to acknowledge it.
OFFICIAL Wests Tigers Unite: Call to Arms
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Tucker
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They may be good at covering their tracks, who knows?
It has been mentioned by ex board members and although they may not be the most reliable witnesses due to perceived grievances, it should still not be ignored.
Coastie_Tiger
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Signed had enough of this wests v balmain garbage.
Please don't spam my email with other petitions or hot offers guys 🤣
Please don't spam my email with other petitions or hot offers guys 🤣
Tito Santana
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Vote Tito!
Respect ,it is hard to sift the wheat from the chaff at the moment
Joel Helmes
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200 signatures now. Thanks for your support if you’ve signed.
bythebeardofzeus
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An External Review of the Governance of Holman Barnes Group
We are launching this action because WE DO NOT have faith in the current governance of the majority shareholder of the Wests Tigers, the Holman Barnes Group (HBG). This action commenced after the HBG board continued to drag its feet over introducing and adopting the full recommendations from the...www.petitions.net
Petition is live.
Hope everyone can get on board for the greater good of the club.
One team, One Jungle, No Limits.
2025 is an exciting one.
So the sooner we get this housekeeping in order, the better.
respect to the history.
love to the Magpies.
we are the Wests Tigers now.
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I’m in. Thanks for organising this.
Go Wests Tigers 🐯💪
hammertime
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It's been reported as 3 accounts of verbal confirmation to other directors coivtny. Multiple sources. Honestly, it's a small point as I'm only concerned about structural issues, but people have been convicted for criminal actions with far less 'evidence' than that. I think we should drop it, but wanted to make that point.
Fair enough. To be honest I’m feeling a little ‘argued out’ on this. I need more convincing but that’s just me. You’re right, the big issue is action needs to be taken to preserve and strengthen WT and I support the action underway.
Signed, 200 needs to turn into 2000.
davey_farrell
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Hi Demps i just want to say congratulations on making this happen, i just signed the petition...im a rusted on old magpies supporter but love the Wests tigers since the mergerand we have to put this rubbish behind us and unite, well done and hope we get thousands of signauturesToday we are taking the first step into launching action to change the governance of the majority shareholder of the Wests Tigers, the Holman Barnes Group (HBG).
This action commenced after the HBG board (controlled by Magpies die-hards Julie Romero and Dennis Burgess) dragged its feet over introducing and adopting the full recommendations from the external review into the governance of the Wests Tigers.
We fought so hard for that review in 2023 and it only came about because everyone supported the petition.
This time, we intend to make our action much bigger and louder than the individual supporter groups and we will be working together, all Wests Tigers social and media outlets, to support this action under the banner of ‘Wests Tigers Unite’.
Ahead of this action, we again ask that you take an interest in this important matter as it is the final hurdle in giving the Wests Tigers the ownership and governance that will help the club we all love thrive.
In the coming days, a petition will be added by organisers and I encourage EVERYONE to sign. In a time where the trajectory of our club is in the right direction, the board continues to derail and cause embarrassment to what we are trying to achieve. Any personal issues need to be put aside and collectively, as a fan base, we come together in hopes of a result. A result we all want & need.
An External Review of the Governance of Holman Barnes Group
We are launching this action because WE DO NOT have faith in the current governance of the majority shareholder of the Wests Tigers, the Holman Barnes Group (HBG). This action commenced after the HBG board continued to drag its feet over introducing and adopting the full recommendations from the...www.petitions.net
There would be no joint venture . The license would have been sold and the club would be under private ownership . That narrative is self serving . Whilst I’m glad there is continuity to the past of both foundation clubs , to imply that this link is doing anything other than holding the club back is beyond ridiculous. The wests bailed out Balmain for thier own self interest and nothing else . It was a mutually beneficial deal at the time.
It’s not ungrateful to call something out for what it is .
This type of “well the club owes wests” logic and thought is manipulative.
200 in a few hours that’s pretty good !
All, no thanks necessary...
We are all in this together
& together we are STRONG.
@cochise & @Joel Helmes are the ones to thank but most importantly thanks to everyone voicing their concerns and signing the petition.
We are all in this together
& together we are STRONG.
@cochise & @Joel Helmes are the ones to thank but most importantly thanks to everyone voicing their concerns and signing the petition.
Magpie_Magic
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You associated Parramatta's governance failures, illegalities re their salary cap issues with HBG.......hence your proposition to present the petition to Liquor and Gaming and the minister of Gaming.
What's the petition questioning?
Illegalities re structure?
Unconstitutional behaviour and compliance?
What is the purpose of the petition? Lack of compliance re governance?
What is implied or accused that you would ask the minister and Liquor and Gaming to act on?
I agree with the general sentiment of this ie. innocent until proven guilty . The issue is there’s multiple sources from various different points in the club who are spinning the same narrative . Balmain board members , HBG board members , sponsors , multiple email trails that were in the the Chammas articles , even the guys on the podcast had indirect conversations with people who had the same sentiments. .
This was originally brought up for the first time by Gary Barnier in an interview in the podcast at the start of the season .
In fact the only people who haven’t offered anything on this is Burgess and Romero themselves .
My issues with them both are based around 2 things , as I don’t think the magpies name change is even likely and I find it ridiculous. The 2 issues I have,
1.is thier direct opposition to Barry Offarrell , and the external company who’s going about the hiring process , and all the hoops being jumped through for no real reason;
2. The multiple sources who’ve stated Romero isn’t sure about Richo / begrudgingly is dealing with him as CEO.
How can anyone possibly have this opinion as of the 28/12/24.
I totally get having it say early 24 , when we all weren’t sure , but as of today ?
There’s only 2 ways you can possibly think this way . Your ego is completely clouding your judgement or you’re a deadset idiot .
And I think that’s where most people are at with this .
And i just outlined how we got there .
Signed #228
Magpie_Magic
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It is untrue that Balmain have no power.
As you would know Balmains10% stake allows them total veto power on any name, structural or ownership changes.....so it's impossible for the so called Magpies die-hards to bring back the magpies without Balmain approval.
It's a furphy.
Coastie_Tiger
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All this posturing about a return to the magpies is a bit of a moot point isn't it?
The license would have been issued to the Wests Tigers to which the Nrl would own the rights to. The license isn't up until sometime in the 2030's iirc. I think there's two chances that the Nrl issues that license to Wests magpies and thats none and buckley's. So i really think if these two muppets in particular are serious about all this they are just self sabotaging.
So with all that said the sooner we see the back of them the better, or at least put them back in their box. Finally start to see some what feels like soon to be on field success and they carry on like this, no wonder Jerome inserted a clause in his deal smart cookie.
The license would have been issued to the Wests Tigers to which the Nrl would own the rights to. The license isn't up until sometime in the 2030's iirc. I think there's two chances that the Nrl issues that license to Wests magpies and thats none and buckley's. So i really think if these two muppets in particular are serious about all this they are just self sabotaging.
So with all that said the sooner we see the back of them the better, or at least put them back in their box. Finally start to see some what feels like soon to be on field success and they carry on like this, no wonder Jerome inserted a clause in his deal smart cookie.
Of course it’s a furphy ! But that’s not why people are upset . You still don’t get it ?
They’re upset because there’s dinosaurs in positions of power with this on thier brain , one of of which sits on the WTs board , so he’s not some debenture turning up to HBG meetings .
This whole pathway of thought is a massive dead end , and it’s a Freudian slip and insight into how this guy burgess, and others , hold onto antiquated, toxic ideologies at thier core .
Who the f**k thinks like this in 2024? Enough to mention it to a Balmain board member ? What’s the point in tjinking it let alone saying it .
It’s messed up on a million different levels . And it’s an insight into your bias that you don’t see what the issue is ….
It’s toxic and divisive and cancerous to the club. The number one reason we are having this debate . Us vs them . Only it’s actually , Us Vs Us vs Them vs Us vs Everyone else . How can that be healthy ?
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