Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[twentyforty]

Mate just want all of the silly bickering to stop I am sure majority of the forum would agree, what weak link are you referring to Benji or future problems

I haven’t seen any “silly bickering”. I’m not really interested in personalities on here, just ideas. I wasn’t referring to a weak link in particular, but my experience tells me that there is always one.
A famous coach once said to a player “my job is to find someone better than you. Your job is to make sure I don’t.”
You’re not sea lioning me are you?
And just so you know, I can tell the sound of a “Dolphin laugh” (I just made that up). 😂 that’s not one.

 

[Year_of_the_Tiger]

Was Morris a strong defender back in his playing days? I just don’t remember. Sheena made him a 5/8. He played reasonably good as a hooker

 

[Year_of_the_Tiger]

It's been an absolute sauna up here the last fortnight too. I'm sure they had a great time....

Yep I need to move to Tassie for 3 months of the year, I enjoy Brisvegas but the heat / wet has been atrocious … would like to see photos of spew buckets when they got hammered 😉

 

[The Chad]

Yep I need to move to Tassie for 3 months of the year, I enjoy Brisvegas but the heat / wet has been atrocious … would like to see photos of spew buckets when they got hammered 😉

I flew back into Brisbane on Saturday night last week from Bali.

I need to go back to Bali. To cool down.

 

[batboy]

Game had passed him by. Tried re-creating 05 by giving the players a licence to throw the ball around. That lasted about two weeks once he realised our backline consisted of Naden and Staines.

Benjiball don't work without a Benji.

 

[Rock Hopper Steve]

I haven’t seen any “silly bickering”. I’m not really interested in personalities on here, just ideas. I wasn’t referring to a weak link in particular, but my experience tells me that there is always one.
A famous coach once said to a player “my job is to find someone better than you. Your job is to make sure I don’t.”
You’re not sea lioning me are you?
And just so you know, I can tell the sound of a “Dolphin laugh” (I just made that up). 😂 that’s not one.

Lol sea lioning had to google that when mentioned on here, that coach I'm guessing was a smart operator wonder if Benji has read his philosophies if there is any.

 

[The Chad]

Game had passed him by. Tried re-creating 05 by giving the players a licence to throw the ball around. That lasted about two weeks once he realised our backline consisted of Naden and Staines.

As a coach- probably. He was only ever a short term band-aid anyway.

But as a recruiter of talent? I don't think he lost that ability. Look at the quality coming through now- there's a fair few Sheens smudgy fingerprints on this generation.

I was happy with Sheens taking over under the proposed plan- Benji takes over in time, Sheens moves to Football GM. Had that plan taken place- adding Richo- I think we are in a good spot. If Benji had been able to lean on Sheens last season for guidance, I suspect there's a different narrative around the club.

For all of that, Benji has proven to be a decent recruiter of talent so far- that might be HIS strength. It then comes down to how he surrounds himself with coaches to assist.

 

[mikey]

Yep I need to move to Tassie for 3 months of the year, I enjoy Brisvegas but the heat / wet has been atrocious … would like to see photos of spew buckets when they got hammered 😉

exactly why we moved down the coast 4 years ago. Love Brissie but the summers.........

 

[Tucker]

Yep I need to move to Tassie for 3 months of the year, I enjoy Brisvegas but the heat / wet has been atrocious … would like to see photos of spew buckets when they got hammered 😉

Brissie is a nice neutral temp

 

[LARDS]

They should never have let Ben Gardiner go did wonders in reserve grade another dumb decision the club made.

Spot on.
He'll be next "hot property" in coaches on the market

 

[Telltails]

Funny - Maguire bought Ben Gardiner over and got hammered for surrounding himself with his own people for fear of getting ousted....

 

[Rock Hopper Steve]

Spot on.
He'll be next "hot property" in coaches on the market

This will be controversial on here and it will probably come back to bite, but I would have chucked him in the deep end, absolute rookie but he was able to get his players to work for him pretty sure he looked after the 1st grade team against the cowboys when the bunker ripped us off, they wanted to play for him.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

This will be controversial on here and it will probably come back to bite, but I would have chucked him in the deep end, absolute rookie but he was able to get his players to work for him pretty sure he looked after the 1st grade team against the cowboys when the bunker ripped us off, they wanted to play for him.

He at least served an apprenticeship

 

[Rock Hopper Steve]

He at least served an apprenticeship

Choice between him and Sheens I know who I would choose and when sheens took over, they let him go.

 

[Jolls]

How about John Morris, is he actually the guy that is responsible for our defence, something that has been a major problem for us for a very long time and still is.

Our defence waivered between NRL and Reserve grade standard during most games. This wasn't coached. In my opinion this was a combination of frustration (players rushing out of the line to make the hero play/ill discipline), fitness (being unable to overcome starting sets so keep in our own half and handing the ball over so shallow in theirs), cohesion (suspensions and.injury to key players in the defensive structures and lack of depth) and attitude (not wanting to win the collision due to combinations of the aforementioned).

A different approach to our defensive structure may bring marginal improvement. Any major improvement will be based on the opposition starting their defensive sets deep in their own territory which means our attack is our critical vulnerability. Fix our attack and kicking game then the fitness, frustration and attitude will be mostly addressed.

 

[upthetigers]

Our defence waivered between NRL and Reserve grade standard during most games. This wasn't coached. In my opinion this was a combination of frustration (players rushing out of the line to make the hero play/ill discipline), fitness (being unable to overcome starting sets so keep in our own half and handing the ball over so shallow in theirs), cohesion (suspensions and.injury to key players in the defensive structures and lack of depth) and attitude (not wanting to win the collision due to combinations of the aforementioned).

A different approach to our defensive structure may bring marginal improvement. Any major improvement will be based on the opposition starting their defensive sets deep in their own territory which means our attack is our critical vulnerability. Fix our attack and kicking game then the fitness, frustration and attitude will be mostly addressed.

Such a good point Jolls you are the MVP of this forum. Everyone is basically in agreeance that our attack will improve this season, and in turn that will help our defense.

 

[batboy]

Our defence waivered between NRL and Reserve grade standard during most games. This wasn't coached. In my opinion this was a combination of frustration (players rushing out of the line to make the hero play/ill discipline), fitness (being unable to overcome starting sets so keep in our own half and handing the ball over so shallow in theirs), cohesion (suspensions and.injury to key players in the defensive structures and lack of depth) and attitude (not wanting to win the collision due to combinations of the aforementioned).

A different approach to our defensive structure may bring marginal improvement. Any major improvement will be based on the opposition starting their defensive sets deep in their own territory which means our attack is our critical vulnerability. Fix our attack and kicking game then the fitness, frustration and attitude will be mostly addressed.

Disagree Mate,
Our defence is passive as a whole, I've basically seen every team in the comp attack with their defence at some point - Outside us.
Another thing I've said, Is we don't dominate in the tackles, We catch them, And take them to ground.
It's coached and has been through many different squads in the last decade or more.

Funnily enough, On the rare occasion we do go in search of the collision, We seem to go OK.
But we can't ever do it for long enough...
that's also coaching.

We're constantly on the retreat in defence, A lot of the time we look brittle enough to bust open on ever play - Like surviving the 6 tackles is some kind of achievement. The anxiety is next level.

We've never been able to handle being uncomfortable, The good teams thrive in it. Even some lower teams are happy to get into the Grind of going Toe to Toe.

We're soft
- We don't know what high level NRL intensity is..

We've bought in some high level players that know that intensity, I just hope we don't golf day it out of them - We have enough young fellas to follow if the bar is set.
Suggesting it will be set by the coach is fanciful - His playing days at the club were the catalyst for it.

Every set starts deep in the opponents half - Attitude and Coaching in Defence is what keeps them there.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

There’s zero correlation that improved attack will improve the defence, it’s still a major concern we still have the same coaching staff.

 

[batboy]

There’s zero correlation that improved attack will improve the defence, it’s still a major concern we still have the same coaching staff.

Better attack will certainly keep them starting sets deep in their half
- Better attack won't keep them there though 😂😂😂

Also forgetting their better defence will keep us in our own half.
How's that saying go - The best defence usually wins the comp.. is it?

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Disagree Mate,
Our defence is passive as a whole, I've basically seen every team in the comp attack with their defence at some point - Outside us.
Another thing I've said, Is we don't dominate in the tackles, We catch them, And take them to ground.
It's coached and has been through many different squads in the last decade or more.

Funnily enough, On the rare occasion we do go in search of the collision, We seem to go OK.
But we can't ever do it for long enough...
that's also coaching.

We're constantly on the retreat in defence, A lot of the time we look brittle enough to bust open on ever play - Like surviving the 6 tackles is some kind of achievement. The anxiety is next level.

We've never been able to handle being uncomfortable, The good teams thrive in it. Even some lower teams are happy to get into the Grind of going Toe to Toe.

We're soft
- We don't know what high level NRL intensity is..

We've bought in some high level players that know that intensity, I just hope we don't golf day it out of them - We have enough young fellas to follow if the bar is set.
Suggesting it will be set by the coach is fanciful - His playing days were the catalyst for it.

Every set starts deep in the opponents half - Attitude and Coaching in Defence is what keeps them there.

I seen someone mention it a few days ago. The only time in 25 years we have displayed any type of grit in defence was at the start of 2018 under Cleary. The heart was phenomenal. Outside of that it’s always been abysmal. Anytime we’ve been half decent has been due to our attack.