Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

weststigers said:
I think Luai will be good for us, but I agree with you in that his highlight reel is a little underwhelming compared to the other big name halves. Particularly when he has played on his own.

Admittedly I don't watch him super closely, but I haven't seen him make a lot of clean line breaks like many of the other good halves do.

He is quite good at stripping numbers on an edge, and it will be nice to have 2 halves that have effective short kicking games, but not sure how much of a difference it will make to us when all is said and done.

Tbh I'm reserving all judgement until round 10.
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I thought last year his straight running and line breaks were better when playing halfback. Which is a good sign. Such as vs Warriors in magic round and vs sharks. When he was 5/8 he'd crab across field a lot. He's got to run and step close to the line. It's one of his biggest strengths over his whole NRL career, which he doesn't do enough.
 
king_sirro said:
I know good mates of his and they have said Teddy told them directly he will never pay for anything ever again. Now I have no clue what that means exactly. Maybe he takes receipts in every week and gets reinbursed in cash, maybe it's more elaborate, I have no clue. But I'm confident his contract value at the NRL doesn't quite match what he is bringing in each week.

I also know an ex Roosters player dad who's son was an average first grader. Said he received 100k cash every year on top of his contract. That's for an average player, so imagine the top players.
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Never pay for anything ever again sounds plausible (as a general statement, not literally). As an example, I could see various restauranters' or bar owners telling the captain of their favourite team that their money isn't needed there. I've heard firsthand recounts of this happening with Broncos players in Brisbane. I've seen it happen once with a Tigers player at a kebab shop. A long time ago now but i've even heard of clubs providing thounsands of dollars of 'product' for mad mondays if certain performance targets were met.
I also don't doubt that there is plenty of dodgy forms of payment happening, even if i do doubt there are many actual cash payments happening (anymore). I'd suggest more like appearance fees arranged and funded by people with links to the club. And i think most the competition would be in some way guilty of breaching cap rules in some such way.
I certainly doubt that there is this long list of Roosters players getting 100s of thousands if not millions in cash. It only takes one disgruntled bloke who isn't getting what he thinks he is worth or not receiving payments anymore to either extort for more or expose it all. It seems a pretty unlikely way to do business.
 
gregjm87 said:
Never pay for anything ever again sounds plausible (as a general statement, not literally). As an example, I could see various restauranters' or bar owners telling the captain of their favourite team that their money isn't needed there. I've heard firsthand recounts of this happening with Broncos players in Brisbane. I've seen it happen once with a Tigers player at a kebab shop. A long time ago now but i've even heard of clubs providing thounsands of dollars of 'product' for mad mondays if certain performance targets were met.
I also don't doubt that there is plenty of dodgy forms of payment happening, even if i do doubt there are many actual cash payments happening (anymore). I'd suggest more like appearance fees arranged and funded by people with links to the club. And i think most the competition would be in some way guilty of breaching cap rules in some such way.
I certainly doubt that there is this long list of Roosters players getting 100s of thousands if not millions in cash. It only takes one disgruntled bloke who isn't getting what he thinks he is worth or not receiving payments anymore to either extort for more or expose it all. It seems a pretty unlikely way to do business.
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Definitely a lot of dodgy deals. On the cash payments this did leak at one point. The golf matches for massive amounts of cash, brown paper bags etc..... was only a rumour and joke to many. Then there was a news article or two maybe 10 years ago with quotes then shortly after it all went eerily silent.

There's a chance I'm misremembering and others may be able to correct me or back it up.
 
Tucker said:
If they pay that much money, they’ll lose their job.
I don’t know why people compare Galvin to Brown…even suggesting Lachy will command more.
We went over this a few weeks ago. Brown has largely earnt his payday. Galvin has not in any way shape or form done so yet.
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If he plays this year like he did last he will get more.

Brown is seen as flakey

Lachie is seen as always on the ball

Plus clubs are desperate for a half/creator

He’ll get more money than brown
 
rugbygoated said:
Playing galvin at 7 would be a horror show. He kills the attack way too much when he gets involved a lot. A good coach would utilise his natural talent on different tackles in the set, not every single tackle
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I don't know if he is a ball hog or if there was just nobody else last year but I am expecting a better season from Galvin with less time on the ball but better quality touches

And his comment about Luai being a teacher's pet sounds of jealousy I hope he is not jealous but he is 19
 
gregjm87 said:
I hear fans say this all the time but I've never really seen any actual examples of it (I'm referring to your second paragraph here).
He probably did get more than we offered when you consider the value of various intangibles such as that highlighted by Tucker. Those intangibles are legal and there is simply no evidence to suggest that he received more than what was offered in illegal payments outside of the cap. We've been mismanaged for to long to be a club that benefits from any intangible value and simply need to be better to not be out competed in such a way.

I'm not naive enough to believe all payments at all clubs are above board but there is no actual evidence of any wrong doing by the roosters and until there is I see no point complaining about it.
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Gremlin,
That's the whole point that you obviously ignore.

[ example]

When East signed Sonny bill
Nick himself stated they paid him only $650.000 a season, and he knocked back the all blacks offer of over $1ml a season, at the same time.

Because Roosters could not pay him anymore otherwise it would have put them over the cap, and being such a good friend of mine he agreed to help us out, said Nick, & accept $350.000 less a season,
But then when Sonny was to leave it was stated by East this would free up $1m of cap space.

And this is a regular thing that goes on with the Roosters, they have rorted the system for years,
and when was the last time you heard of an audit being done on them,
I think they audit most clubs on a pretty regular basis.
 
rugbygoated said:
Richo tried getting him in 2018/19 when Luai was behind maloney and cleary. Luai had deals from souths and eels but chose to stay at penrith because gus gould convinced him. Richo said in his opinion he was the best junior half coming through. That means nothing at NRL level in 2025 8 years later where luai has been predominantly a 5/8 his whole NRL career starting in a new position at a struggling club. We need to be more realistic and accept it's a great signing, but it won't be this dreamy utopia where everything is fixed overnight
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Noone has suggested anything resembling a "dreamy utopia"....

The rest of your post is just ignorant opinion - thanks for sharing!
 
old_man_tiger said:
Definitely a lot of dodgy deals. On the cash payments this did leak at one point. The golf matches for massive amounts of cash, brown paper bags etc..... was only a rumour and joke to many. Then there was a news article or two maybe 10 years ago with quotes then shortly after it all went eerily silent.

There's a chance I'm misremembering and others may be able to correct me or back it up.
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gregjm87 said:
I hear fans say this all the time but I've never really seen any actual examples of it (I'm referring to your second paragraph here).
He probably did get more than we offered when you consider the value of various intangibles such as that highlighted by Tucker. Those intangibles are legal and there is simply no evidence to suggest that he received more than what was offered in illegal payments outside of the cap. We've been mismanaged for to long to be a club that benefits from any intangible value and simply need to be better to not be out competed in such a way.

I'm not naive enough to believe all payments at all clubs are above board but there is no actual evidence of any wrong doing by the roosters and until there is I see no point complaining about it.
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There is definitely examples, you just won't hear more than rumours about it... Those who have been in around the game know. It's just one of those things that you accept it for being the way that it is, it's a society thing, not just NRL. Money rules the world.

There's been plenty of evidence over years, but unfortunately even jurnos and administrators have bosses, who have agendas. The biggest false narrative about rugby league is that its 'the working peoples game'. Its not, but that narrative makes more money as the wealthy make the few. People really underestimate the influence the Roosters have in the NRL. The illusion is that the Broncos or even at times Souths have all the influence over the NRL but they make that narrative. Anyone in NRL circles know you don't want to get on the bad side of Gyngell, Delany, Bouris, Shubert, Politis etc. No coincidence that they've all survived longer than multiple NRL administrators.
 
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