OFFICIAL Lachlan Galvin #277 *Released* Career Discussion.

[innsaneink]

But is he worth it, or is it another Brooks
scenario where we jumped in and then carried that problem for some years.
Galvins a talent, but he’s not going to deliver if he hasn’t got good teammates around him. Where do we draw the line ?

I immediately thought of players around him/recruitment reading the first line of your post
re: Good team mates.
We can only go on what weve seen this year recruitment wise and Id give that an A+ to Benji & Richo, as long as this positive recruitment remains for the next few years I dont see why all our young developing players including Galvin cant benefit and improve as the team does.
Big change from the Brooks scenario - hopefully

 

[innsaneink]

The Galvin vs Fainu thing is interesting and I think everyone wants Fainu to be the better player given Galvin’s likelihood of leaving. Also the fact that Fainu has only been seen in small doses in First grade.

IMO Fainu has a bit more talent, but Galvin is going to get every inch out of his potential over the next few years. I’m not yet convinced that Fainu has that same work ethic. Galvin is a sure thing, while Fainu is a “could be”.

There is a reason why Fainu hasn’t been able to unseat Galvin and the media are all over Galvin while Fainu barely gets spoken about.

The reason most definitely isnt your opinion.

More likely because Galvin was the next cab off the rank after the Brooks -> Manly BS media fest
The fact he played an entire season on debut, shouldve got rookie of the year, and has a mangager who know how to get his clients name in the media

 

[liltiger]

Well, we haven't offered anything yet.

I understand, my point is eventually we will, if he decides to go to market then he's leaving. Why waste any more time developing a half for another team while we've got Latu patiently waiting for his chance for consistent football in the halves.

 

[cktiger]

I understand, my point is eventually we will, if he decides to go to market then he's leaving. Why waste any more time developing a half for another team while we've got Latu patiently waiting for his chance for consistent football in the halves.

Happily agree unless he’s playing really well and we’re in the running for a semi final.

 

[jirskyr]

definitely…. Brown’s deal is a market changing contract … also the cap will be up another 30% plus in 2028 after they sign the new TV deal

I don't agree with the commentary around Brown at all.

If the guy up your street gets a crazy price for your house, that's nice, but it doesn't mean that everyone else in the street can now ask for the same money and that other buyers will be compelled to be offering crazy money.

Knights wanted Dylan Brown, they were desperate to make it happen and they've offered huge money. That does not automatically confer onto all other halves in the comp, especially because Brown is not a proven winner nor a rep player.

 

[jirskyr]

He has zero tries or try assists. Almost no attacking stats. He is worse than adam blair as a signing

That is a super big and EARLY call

 

[WesternSuburbsBoy]

Honestly I'm completely against handing Galvin this massive contract for two reasons.
1. He has done nothing in the game yet to earn these sorts of dollars. He has had a brilliant start to his career no doubt but handing a guy who hasn't even played 30 games yet a 5 year deal & paying him over a mill a season is just a recipe for disaster especially when there's long term doubts as to if his best position is in the halves or not.
2. We are putting an incredible amount of pressure on a 19 year old to live up to all these expectations that will come with the price tag & the deal he is signing.... what happened the last time we paid someone a shit tonne of money based on potential?

 

[Vicious]

Honestly I'm completely against handing Galvin this massive contract for two reasons.
1. He has done nothing in the game yet to earn these sorts of dollars. He has had a brilliant start to his career no doubt but handing a guy who hasn't even played 30 games yet a 5 year deal & paying him over a mill a season is just a recipe for disaster especially when there's long term doubts as to if his best position is in the halves or not.
2. We are putting an incredible amount of pressure on a 19 year old to live up to all these expectations that will come with the price tag & the deal he is signing.... what happened the last time we paid someone a shit tonne of money based on potential?

It’s hard not to agree with that WesternSuburbsBoy.
I’m a big fan of the kid, he’s already one of our most high profile players and it would be a disaster to lose him, but I just cannot see 1 million dollars per season of value in him just yet.
If we pay him 1 million in addition to the 1.2 million for Luai, plus 500k for each of Latu and Sullivan, that ends up being 3.2 of cap space just on our halves and only 2 of them can be starting players at any one time.
It makes it very difficult to have a strong team around them based off those figures.
Obviously if we can somehow offload Sullivan without having to contribute to his contract it makes it a lot better, but hard to see that happening at the moment,

 

[Juice]

dont think it’s going to be 5+ years until we see him at 2nd row or lock. Just watch how much he will fill out in the next couple years as he goes into his early 20’s. He played his debut season as a kid, realistically at most other clubs he wouldn’t have even seen consistent 1st grade yet. I like the idea of him being a ball playing lock with Fainu at 5/8

 

[TheKhan]

Surely a 5 year 5m salary for a kid with 20 games under his belt has to have some KPI's attached. I know tigers don't have a glowing record but 5m is more then alot of people see in their life

 

[Kelce68]

The thing about Galvin's next deal is that whether it's us or someone else, he will, in all likelihood, be offered a contract well-above his true value at the moment.

So the outcomes aren't that much of a mystery. For me, there's basically two.

Either we stump up the cash and take a gamble on one of the most impressive young kids to come through in decades, or, we check, and allow another team to raise and do the exact, same thing.

He'll be on overs for the next few years regardless.

His next contract could be overs for it's duration if he plateaus or, it could end up being unders if his development continues well and he starts becoming majorly influential in the outcome of games.

Whether we think he's worth it or not, or whether he has shown enough yet or whether he deserves it, is neither here or there. He'll get the money.

Either we take the gamble or we don't.

I prefer to hold the cards and dictate terms, so I'm taking that risk.

 

[Speed2burn]

Those 1-2 plays where we could have won is where he should step up. As the 1.2 million dollar half or 'Batman'. Sadly he is and always will be a Robin, he's a Robin to a 19 year old lol. It will never change. We were leading both games vs knights and warriors and in the last 20 minutes he didn't step up at all. It might take till mid season or later in the season before you guys realise what a waste of money it is, considering how good latu and galvin will be, and where we could spend that money on centres or another 2nd rower

Or could you could argue we are never even in those positions to win without him? This weekend will be very telling anyway without him. Each to their own, but I think he’s been getting better each game without setting up a billion tries

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

The thing about Galvin's next deal is that whether it's us or someone else, he will, in all likelihood, be offered a contract well-above his true value at the moment.

So the outcomes aren't that much of a mystery. For me, there's basically two.

Either we stump up the cash and take a gamble on one of the most impressive young kids to come through in decades, or, we check, and allow another team to raise and do the exact, same thing.

He'll be on overs for the next few years.

His next contract could be overs for it's duration if he plateaus or, it could end up being unders if his development continues well and he starts becoming majorly influential in the outcome of games.

Whether we think he worth it or not, or whether he has shown enough yet or whether he deserves it, is neither here or there. He'll get the money.

Either we take the gamble or we don't.

I prefer to hold the cards and dictate terms, so I'm taking that risk.

As @jrtiger @poopy_diaper on Wests Tigers Faithful podcast said, this next contract is more than just Galvin.

It's a contract that will galvanise belief amongst the players & parents in the club's pathways that the Macarthur kids are the future and want to play together to achieve the ultimate success!

It's a contract that will put past demons of Tedesco et al to rest that we are a development club for others!

It's a contract that will show that Richo is God & Benji is his disciple!

Ok maybe being a bit dramatic but it's an important one for the club (regardless of contingencies in place).

 

[Kelce68]

As @jrtiger @poopy_diaper on Wests Tigers Faithful podcast said, this next contract is more than just Galvin.

It's a contract that will galvanise belief amongst the players & parents in the club's pathways that the Macarthur kids are the future and want to play together to achieve the ultimate success!

It's a contract that will put past demons of Tedesco et al to rest that we are a development club for others!

It's a contract that will show that Richo is God & Benji is his disciple!

Ok maybe being a bit dramatic but it's an important one for the club (regardless of contingencies in place).

Absolutely.

Sidebar; good podcast, that.

 

[twentyforty]

Honestly I'm completely against handing Galvin this massive contract for two reasons.
1. He has done nothing in the game yet to earn these sorts of dollars. He has had a brilliant start to his career no doubt but handing a guy who hasn't even played 30 games yet a 5 year deal & paying him over a mill a season is just a recipe for disaster especially when there's long term doubts as to if his best position is in the halves or not.
2. We are putting an incredible amount of pressure on a 19 year old to live up to all these expectations that will come with the price tag & the deal he is signing.... what happened the last time we paid someone a shit tonne of money based on potential?

If we do give him any more than back rower money then we haven’t learned anything from the Suli signing.

 

[liltiger]

Happily agree unless he’s playing really well and we’re in the running for a semi final.

As long as we don't end up losing Latu

 

[Tucker]

Honestly I'm completely against handing Galvin this massive contract for two reasons.
1. He has done nothing in the game yet to earn these sorts of dollars. He has had a brilliant start to his career no doubt but handing a guy who hasn't even played 30 games yet a 5 year deal & paying him over a mill a season is just a recipe for disaster especially when there's long term doubts as to if his best position is in the halves or not.
2. We are putting an incredible amount of pressure on a 19 year old to live up to all these expectations that will come with the price tag & the deal he is signing.... what happened the last time we paid someone a shit tonne of money based on potential?

You know, not trying to start anything here, but there was a stage last year where I was saying all this stuff and getting bashed from pillar to post on here.
Im glad people are beginning to look at things a bit more objectively rather than subjectively.

 

[Tom Shines]

Well, we haven't offered anything yet.

how do we know if he has been offered anything or not? I don’t think Richo is going to give us a running commentary of the negotiations..

 

[426Tlgerland]

As @jrtiger @poopy_diaper on Wests Tigers Faithful podcast said, this next contract is more than just Galvin.

It's a contract that will galvanise belief amongst the players & parents in the club's pathways that the Macarthur kids are the future and want to play together to achieve the ultimate success!

It's a contract that will put past demons of Tedesco et al to rest that we are a development club for others!

It's a contract that will show that Richo is God & Benji is his disciple!

Ok maybe being a bit dramatic but it's an important one for the club (regardless of contingencies in place).

I’m hearing that Wedler journos is saying. 5 year deal $ 5 million and Galvin will still go to market , what would that tell us , he wants more or he wants out

 

[Rock Hopper Steve]

I’m hearing that Wedler journos is saying. 5 year deal $ 5 million and Galvin will still go to market , what would that tell us , he wants more or he wants out

If the deal is true and he doesn't accept it than for mine he can bugger off, we only want players whose heart is with the Tigers, I think even that money is too much he has potential but has a while to go to be a superstar.