Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[rihannafan1]

Agee Hank, he had just enough good games in a contract year to extort a good contract out of another club. He has never looked like a player who is having a go. He looks like he just wants to stand out wide waiting for a good ball so he can run over someone, like that’s his only job on the field.

I've thought Suli has slimmed down a little this year and looks the best he ever has. It has taken a looooooong time. He was really promising in his first season with us.

 

[crazycat]

Wasn't even a Storm junior really. Came through the grades at Penrith. Didn't get re-signed there due to off field issues. Signed with Storm. Got punted from allegedly there because he wanted to punch on with Bellamy before we signed him.
I don't think Suli has ever really reached the levels that was projected but wouldn't put him in the FWit category. After his debut season returned 20kg overweight and often late for training. Was punted for those reasons then signed by Dogs. Was only there a few weeks before being punted again for the same issues. Signed by Manly. Apparently he had a lot of family issues going on at the time, I don't recall the details.
At Manly he had mates picking him up and getting him to training. Dessie arranged all his meals because he had no idea about nutrition. He really found his feet in first grade there.
He was offered a good long term contract too good to turn down from dragons, which is why he left Manly.

What if we need to do the same with Taylan May?

Clearly he has some personal issues going on. Heck Terrell may have said "no".
Sounds like the guy should be training but is not ready for first grade any time soon.

Suli was a talented nightmare. Do we avoid that again?

 

[Spartan117]

G’day, new guy here. Been following for a while but never seen Josh Kerr’s name mentioned among the signings chat. Would he not be a bad option as an extra middle? Big body, runs fairly hard, off contract at the Dolphins and surely wouldn’t too cost much on a one or two year deal. Wouldn’t appoint him as the leader of our pack but would think he’d make a decent addition to come in and out of the top 17 as needed.

Welcome mate to the WTF.

Lots of mates are dragons fans who were very happy to see him go north.

I feel we are trending well and we need to win a few back to back.

This will help our recruitment.
Ps cool name.

 

[Buttface]

The difference is they sought to be released mid contract!!Bateman and Klemmer and Ipap
Which taken together, rings a few alarm bells
As it turns out,none of them were worth keeping..even Ipap is struggling for impact at the Panthers
Need to give Benji some time..a full 2025 at minimum
But if were contesting the spoon again,,,,

I wonder if he wishes he’d have just stayed at pawa running off moses for last few years. I reckon it’s ruined his career moving to us to run off bricksy’s point blank bullets. Now he’s struggling to find that rhythm again with another half. I’m glad his their problem.

 

[Tiger_claws]

Wow, he was a Storm Junior and 2013 named NYC prop of the year.
Storm can't keep him (probably cap pressure) so we sign him and he makes his first NRL appearance here.

Yep not a Tigers Junior.
Heck both Lodge and Suli break the no F-wit rule. I just never saw Suli coming back to us. The guy had talent but man what a troublecase.

Lodge is a Panthers junior

 

[Odessa]

Don’t let the truth get in the way of a good story O. 😎

Lodge is rubbish on and off the field. He would be a terrible signing for our team right now, and Suli has never live up to the hype.

What are you talking about?

 

[gregjm87]

What if we need to do the same with Taylan May?

Clearly he has some personal issues going on. Heck Terrell may have said "no".
Sounds like the guy should be training but is not ready for first grade any time soon.

Suli was a talented nightmare. Do we avoid that again?

I don't know May to really comment, nor Suli for that matter beyond reading articles about him.
I don't think Suli was a talented nightmare as such as needed more support than he was given. Sure as an athlete there is an expectation, as well as a contractual obligation, for him to maintain fitness and attendance standards. He was still the same bloke at Manly however they were able to look after him a little better and help him revive his career. There is no reason he could not have done that here with the same support he received at Manly.
My understanding of the situations is they are very different.
Suli's off field family distractions were through no fault of his own as a person. He didn't maintain standards but he also didn't know how, even if to most It is a simple concept. Suli seems the type of person I would happily put extra resources into and was thought to be a talent that would justify doing so.
May's off field issues are (almost) entirely brought upon himself through alleged actions that portray his negatively as a human being. I don't believe he is worth the drama, at least at this stage. I wouldn't say never but it appears as though he needs to do a lot of work on himself before he should be considered.

 

[Jolls]

Waaaay to early to conclude Benji can coach!!Its always results /outcomes based...and we will all know a lot more in a month or two
Leading indicators (and thats all they are) are that senior international forwards wanted out in the off season..not a great sign,although none of them have exceled at their new club
Next indicator is how the younger players are developing...again its too early to form any conclusions The final indicator is whether elite young talent wants out..weve had some recent wins in Pole...but Galvin/Latu/maybe even Luai will provide a more fact based conclusion come Nov 1
.. if Benji finishes us near the bottom again it wont enhance his long term coaching prospects..nobody will back a loser

It is clear that he has an idea; what is not clear is how well he can coach. I stated that pretty clearly

 

[liltiger]

I just love how Manly are loosing DCE... and the option of keeping Brooks, a person who played most of his NRL at Halfback is NOT CONSIDERED AT ALL!

I mean, not a look-in. Not even "hey you can stay at 5/8.." It's DCE is gone and we need 2x halves please!?

Ill give Siebold some credit for his hard no here.

I know right, tell a player you think they're hopeless without actually telling them they're hopeless. I was pretty shocked tbh. Seibold signed him for like 800k or about, I thought for sure they would have just gone to market for a halfback. But nah they're looking for a whole new halves combination. Imagine how Brooks feels now he's been told he can look elsewhere. England bound for sure. Still think if we didn't have Farah he would have made a really solid hooker. But he's no half. Still though a nearly 15 year career as a half he was no frills, has a few highlights, he's the guy you throw in when you know your other half has all your other needs covered. But if you need them to share the responsibility he just doesn't seem to have it.

 

[jadtiger]

I don't know May to really comment, nor Suli for that matter beyond reading articles about him.
I don't think Suli was a talented nightmare as such as needed more support than he was given. Sure as an athlete there is an expectation, as well as a contractual obligation, for him to maintain fitness and attendance standards. He was still the same bloke at Manly however they were able to look after him a little better and help him revive his career. There is no reason he could not have done that here with the same support he received at Manly.
My understanding of the situations is they are very different.
Suli's off field family distractions were through no fault of his own as a person. He didn't maintain standards but he also didn't know how, even if to most It is a simple concept. Suli seems the type of person I would happily put extra resources into and was thought to be a talent that would justify doing so.
May's off field issues are (almost) entirely brought upon himself through alleged actions that portray his negatively as a human being. I don't believe he is worth the drama, at least at this stage. I wouldn't say never but it appears as though he needs to do a lot of work on himself before he should be considered.

From what i have heard we as a club did everything we could in supporting Suli,but he was just beyond help and would take no accountability or resposibility for himself,when he went to the dogs the same thing happened.It was only at the end of his tenure with Manly he found ANY self discipline and his form improved because of it.He got an improved new contact at the dragons and is not putting in the effort/discipline again although he is better than when he was with us.
A terrible waste of talent

 

[liltiger]

I don't know May to really comment, nor Suli for that matter beyond reading articles about him.
I don't think Suli was a talented nightmare as such as needed more support than he was given. Sure as an athlete there is an expectation, as well as a contractual obligation, for him to maintain fitness and attendance standards. He was still the same bloke at Manly however they were able to look after him a little better and help him revive his career. There is no reason he could not have done that here with the same support he received at Manly.
My understanding of the situations is they are very different.
Suli's off field family distractions were through no fault of his own as a person. He didn't maintain standards but he also didn't know how, even if to most It is a simple concept. Suli seems the type of person I would happily put extra resources into and was thought to be a talent that would justify doing so.
May's off field issues are (almost) entirely brought upon himself through alleged actions that portray his negatively as a human being. I don't believe he is worth the drama, at least at this stage. I wouldn't say never but it appears as though he needs to do a lot of work on himself before he should be considered.

Agree totally but for me if May's mental health issues had never been looked into then I wouldn't have a problem giving him a chance, if he gets himself help, is or isn't medicated depending on the professionals, he ends up mentally balanced and better, iv got no issue with it. Prior to getting help he's going to do things to "normal" society that seem abnormal, once he and the docs get on top of it and manage it he should be all good to go. Can put clauses in his contract that he must take his meds or continue to see his personal psych how ever many sessions the psych requires on a regular basis. Club could easily ask the psych for a letter simply stating he is turning up for his visits without breaching confidentiality. If the club are that concerned with it. Honestly I think if he has never done anything about it and is now finally starting to get it sorted, once he comes out the other end he will be a completely different person. The power the electricity firing in all our brains has is amazing.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

I know right, tell a player you think they're hopeless without actually telling them they're hopeless. I was pretty shocked tbh. Seibold signed him for like 800k or about, I thought for sure they would have just gone to market for a halfback. But nah they're looking for a whole new halves combination. Imagine how Brooks feels now he's been told he can look elsewhere. England bound for sure. Still think if we didn't have Farah he would have made a really solid hooker. But he's no half. Still though a nearly 15 year career as a half he was no frills, has a few highlights, he's the guy you throw in when you know your other half has all your other needs covered. But if you need them to share the responsibility he just doesn't seem to have it.

Brooks has been told he can look elsewhere on the assumption manly will have a good crack and get Galvin for 2027 (brooks contract is up end of 2027) to get galvin in they need to use brooks salary he can try and leave a year early hence 2027.
manly will not be the only team queing up for Galvin im sure, if they don't sign galvin then I guess brooks sees out his contract for 2027

 

[liltiger]

Brooks has been told he can look elsewhere on the assumption manly will have a good crack and get Galvin for 2027 (brooks contract is up end of 2027) to get galvin in they need to use brooks salary he can try and leave a year early hence 2027.
manly will not be the only team queing up for Galvin im sure, if they don't sign galvin then I guess brooks sees out his contract for 2027

See what ends up happening

 

[batboy]

Wasn't even a Storm junior really. Came through the grades at Penrith. Didn't get re-signed there due to off field issues.

You sure?
Pretty sure he was Poached.

 

[rihannafan1]

See what ends up happening

Brooks has been told he can look elsewhere on the assumption manly will have a good crack and get Galvin for 2027 (brooks contract is up end of 2027) to get galvin in they need to use brooks salary he can try and leave a year early hence 2027.
manly will not be the only team queing up for Galvin im sure, if they don't sign galvin then I guess brooks sees out his contract for 2027

Brooks and Galvin are both Moses clients. Should be interesting.

 

[Tom Shines]

Brooks has been told he can look elsewhere on the assumption manly will have a good crack and get Galvin for 2027 (brooks contract is up end of 2027) to get galvin in they need to use brooks salary he can try and leave a year early hence 2027.
manly will not be the only team queing up for Galvin im sure, if they don't sign galvin then I guess brooks sees out his contract for 2027

where did you hear this mate ? You got contacts at Manly as well as the Tigers ?

 

[Buttface]

What are you talking about?

Old mate said he was a jr, just joking with ya, as we know the truth

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

where did you hear this mate ? You got contacts at Manly as well as the Tigers ?

no contacts at the Tigers

 

[crazycat]

Brooks has been told he can look elsewhere on the assumption manly will have a good crack and get Galvin for 2027 (brooks contract is up end of 2027) to get galvin in they need to use brooks salary he can try and leave a year early hence 2027.
manly will not be the only team queing up for Galvin im sure, if they don't sign galvin then I guess brooks sees out his contract for 2027

why am I 100% sure that Manly won't go for Galvin to replace DCE!

I mean they do make stupid decisions, but I don't think they are stupid enough to block Onrtoni large from being their 5/8. They will be looking for a halfback and I would suspect Adam Reynolds is high on their list...

Man Madge must hate Reynolds! I would have locked him up.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

why am I 100% sure that Manly won't go for Galvin to replace DCE!

I mean they do make stupid decisions, but I don't think they are stupid enough to block Onrtoni large from being their 5/8. They will be looking for a halfback and I would suspect Adam Reynolds is high on their list...

Man Madge must hate Reynolds! I would have locked him up.

no mention of galvin for dce
dce replacement is fogarty for 7
galvin replaces brooks at 6