OFFICIAL Lachlan Galvin #277 *Released* Career Discussion.

[mtd#2]

No doubt he's manipulating as much as he can. This is the first time it's came off against WT.

Example 1 - when the Fainu's were being released from Manly, Gus decided to visit Manese in prison and "check on his welfare". We already had Sione so he lost out there.

Example 2 - when Stefano was potentially leaving he was quoted saying WT should be careful how much the offer him - much the same as what said about Galvin. Gus couldn't compete with Bellamy so lost out again.

The point being good guys finish last. I'm tired of seeing my club get manipulated. We need to get better at winning these situations.

We won this situation.
Galvin was never staying.
Richo saved our season from 💯 being a write off to still giving us a chance
It unites the playing group with him gone

We were always a stepping stone for Galvin, the quicker we accept that the eaiser it is to move on.. he never wanted to be here.. so we are better with him not here..

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

All our problems arise when we attempt to transition that developed talent into the top grade.

The biggest reason why is because we rush them due to having a terrible squad in the 1st place.

 

[mtd#2]

Just a side note , Iam surprised we let Galvin walk now , with latu still injured, would we not have told him he can leave before June 30 but we need u till latu is fit to return , if I was in charge I would have covered that before letting him go , just my though , and I know it’s good just to get rid of the little pedal

We haven't let him walk yet

I wouldn't be surprised if Richo makes some demands now he knows the dogs want him...

The dogs can't just sign him asap, there are agreements with the tigers that need to take place

I could be wrong but there could be more to unfold

 

[Tucker]

Easy in hindsight eh?

Is it hindsight though?
We repeat these same mistakes over and over again.

 

[stephen]

Am I missing something here?

Don’t managers get paid as a percentage of their players contract?

If so, Moses (who if you believe most on this forum) has instigated this whole sorry saga, so he himself, could get less money 🤔

Doesn’t the way it’s played out, now suggest that the manager was just doing what the player requested him to do?

As I said at the start - Am I missing something here? 🤷‍♂️

Seems obvious doesn't it?
Galvin wasn't running around begging to extend with us.

 

[Tucker]

The biggest reason why is because we rush them due to having a terrible squad in the 1st place.

Usually, yes.
Roster management has always been a weakness here, even during our good years.

 

[tigertragic]

At the end of the day if this was done behind closed doors or handled in a more professional business manner we would not end up looking the poor old Tigers/ media whipping boys.

It was never going to be kept behind closed doors with I Moses and his ‘friends’. Richo has been able to run a tight lipped ship since arriving but dealing with Moses is ‘different’ game.

 

[stephen]

Absolute joke - released Tom Amone virtually the moment Galvin turned down the Wests Tigers offer.
My anger is directed at how he goes on about pathways and building clubs blah blah.

All NRL fans ultimately want their juniors to stay at their clubs otherwise what is the point of investing in pathways. When he uses his position in the media to blatantly oversell a young player that a club is desperate to keep to tempt him to his club and he doesn't get called our for it - then he is no good for the game.

Do you really think Galvin's desire to join Dogs came after hearing Gould praising him on TV? Gould's media roles have zero impact. Players are receiving approaches directly or indirectly, within the rules or otherwise, not through the media.

 

[Tcat]

Am I missing something here?

Don’t managers get paid as a percentage of their players contract?

If so, Moses (who if you believe most on this forum) has instigated this whole sorry saga, so he himself, could get less money 🤔

Doesn’t the way it’s played out, now suggest that the manager was just doing what the player requested him to do?

As I said at the start - Am I missing something here? 🤷‍♂️

The dogs have the same accountant as the Roosters. Moses won't be taking less commission.

 

[stephen]

Now let's move on to one of the next problems on hand that is just about to cause much turmoil and gnashing of teeth on this forum over the next 4 or 5 weeks.

Who are Wests Tigers signing to fill the 2 or 3 position that we will now have vacant and need to fill to be cap compliant by the 30th June? 🤔

Richo please tell me that it is 2 or 3 quality signings from outside of our current system.🙏

More than likely it will be 2 or 3 young players with potential from our current system that see very little or any NRL time in the near future and if they do it will be a case of being thrown in the deep end much too soon, not like that has ever happened before. 🤡

Okay, I can live with it if we are signing some current players just for the rest of this season only, in a similar sort of scenario as Solomona Faataape being elevated which I think was done to free up his Development spot for someone else.

I'll live with that if it is just for the remainder of this season and we announce 2 or 3 good players from outside our system that cannot be accommodated prior to June 30 but will be with us from November 1, mind you it will have to be much more than 2 or 3 players after November 1 to fill the positions of some of the dead wood that is coming off contract.

I just have a very bad feeling about how all this is going to play out and I just hope that I am proved to be completely wrong.

Bring back Oliver Gildart!!
Who's with me??

 

[supercoach]

From a Tigers point of view it really doesn’t matter how Gould got Galvin to sign with the Dogs. When you have Gould and Moses pulling the strings you can bet it’s not all above the table and legal, but he was leaving our club so it really doesn’t matter. Iam gutted all we get is 165000 dollars, but all you can do is move on…

 

[Tucker]

Not saying Benji is same class as Ciraldo, it was the reason I was vocal about him being the best choice for us years ago. The analyst side of him is what drives the success. He also has had a constent with Gus by his side.

Stability & Leadership is a big influence those have been outside of Benji control until the last 12mths or so. Benji never had that until Richo despite people putting the coach hat on.

The squad at the bulldogs has been consistent for the last 18mths with small additions /youth - the right way to do things. Ours hasn’t been and won’t be probably until next season kicks off.

Bulldogs this time last year were on same points as us this year and outside the 8. The year before they had 1 more win than us fighting for the spoon at the same time.

Not saying Benji is an awesome coach, he hasn’t proved his worth yet but the difference in ecosystem is a massive driver of success and culture/teams need time to form. Based on timelines and squad structures we are 18mths behind them on simple mechanics.

It plays a large role no doubt. Having experience yourself plays a far larger role.
Ciraldo put the time in, learnt his trade and is now applying it. Benji is still trying to read the book.
Benji has been on staff in a coaching capacity through planning (22) or actually doing it (23,24 and 25). The narrative that we should only judge his performances this year is horribly flawed and to be honest, misleading. ALL recruitment and retention decisions since the end of 2022 have gone through him. He has had final say and thats been stated by previous and current management including Sheens. Its a cop out to say he hasnt had the cattle.

 

[liltiger]

Ciraldo had done his time as an assistant building a team up and was looking to cash in on all that effort. He likely so the job here as being too hard as the system was a mismanaged pile of dogshit and noticing another job was on offer...well the choice was easy.
Benji was niaive and maybe ignorant as well. His ego clouded his judgement.
The reult? CC is pushing for a premiership after playing finals last year and Benji is pushing to avoid his third spoon on the trot.

No way we get the spoon this year, fact is Benji was willing to have a go and Ciraldo chose not to. The fact Benji hasn't really served a proper apprenticeship shows how even more remarkable his effort has been. He might get fired, he might lead us to the promised land only time will tell. Imo Ciraldo hasn't built the premiership leading team Gus did. Do you honestly think Tucker had Ciraldo come across to us we would be leading the comp now. It's purely hypothetical but I seriously doubt it. Had Gus not begun the process of sorting the Dogs out Ciraldo prob would have rejected that job aswell.

 

[Tucker]

From a Tigers point of view it really doesn’t matter how Gould got Galvin to sign with the Dogs. When you have Gould and Moses pulling the strings you can bet it’s not all above the table and legal, but he was leaving our club so it really doesn’t matter. Iam gutted all we get is 165000 dollars, but all you can do is move on…

Yes we have to get over it and move on, but first we must perofrm a lessons learned analysis. This same mistake keeps being made and if we dont change how we do things, we'll have similar problems with Tallyn, and possibly Bula and Luai as their get out of jail free clauses still exist. The only signing we know is coming is Jayden Sullivan next year.
We have to stop feeling sorry for ourselves and blaming everyone else. Understand how Moses and Gould shafted us and be smarter next time we are in this position.

 

[innsaneink]

Just a side note , Iam surprised we let Galvin walk now , with latu still injured, would we not have told him he can leave before June 30 but we need u till latu is fit to return , if I was in charge I would have covered that before letting him go , just my though , and I know it’s good just to get rid of the little pedal

Confident he'd put in 100%?
Cant say i would be knowing he has one foot out the door

 

[innsaneink]

Just a side note , Iam surprised we let Galvin walk now , with latu still injured, would we not have told him he can leave before June 30 but we need u till latu is fit to return , if I was in charge I would have covered that before letting him go , just my though , and I know it’s good just to get rid of the little pedal

Confident he'd put in 100%?
Cant say i would be knowing he has one foot out the door

 

[Bus 2 Terrigal]

What's our KOE gonna go mate? Lol

Hopefully wipe the smile off his face.

 

[Bus 2 Terrigal]

Seems obvious doesn't it?
Galvin wasn't running around begging to extend with us.

So your saying the whole thing was instigated by the player - not by the manager. My point exactly 👍

 

[Rock Hopper Steve]

Confident he'd put in 100%?
Cant say i would be knowing he has one foot out the door

2 identical post inns you're in a loop mate a deletion needed lol.

 

[innsaneink]

Is it hindsight though?
We repeat these same mistakes over and over again.

The thingnim getting at is we all have these views and solutions...forum user 1 has solution A
User 2 has B etc etc
We have no idea what eventuates if any of these other alternatives are initially displayed.