Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[TheKhan]

Do you think it’s OK for players to place ultimatums on the club, dictate who the club can and can’t sign and determine what their pathway to full time nrl should be? The tigers have invested in Tallan’s development and provided a clear pathway to become their first grade hooker in a reasonable timeframe learning his trade off one of the best in the game.
These comments from TDS‘s manager, which are endorsed by TDS unless he states otherwise, display the same entitlement that led to the Galvin situation:

"We can't talk to clubs at this stage but five have told me that if Tallyn goes to the marketplace, they are keen.

"It's up to the Tigers to decide what they want to do but if Api stays, chances are Tallyn will have to go."

It indicates a complete lack of respect to Api and the club. He’s already gone if that’s his attitude.

Tough one. I don't disagree with you but I also don't agree. The club is just like any work place. TDS is absolutely in is right to say "for me to work here i need X to be apart of my contract". Just as the employer has the right to reject or accept those terms. Obviously all players want to play first grade, finals and grand finals. And tigers from all reports are hard to deal with while also having poor results. Gives players alot of hand in the negotiations

 

[GNR4LIFE]

It’s karma for Ponga as far as I’m concerned. He’s always been on the nose for me ever since he totally shat on Nathan Brown after Brown was sacked.

 

[TSP]

I was sitting down with woofy lasf night and put the question to him Api v Tallyn.

And he had trouble with his tapping his morse code so gave me a salute with his paw.

 

[TSP]

It’s karma for Ponga as far as I’m concerned. He’s always been on the nose for me ever since he totally shat on Nathan Brown after Brown was sacked.

Hes full of entitlement. A rat with a gold tooth.

A deep sea squid has a more engaging personality.

 

[HabboTiger]

It’s karma for Ponga as far as I’m concerned. He’s always been on the nose for me ever since he totally shat on Nathan Brown after Brown was sacked.

Sounds all too familiar

 

[liltiger]

Im not so convinced there...no one likes to know that they are the backup - the spare.
Be great if they told him the deal is recinded LOL.

Reports are he told the Eels he was joining friday night only to change his mind after talking to Vela

 

[liltiger]

RLPA are the bigger problem in the game IMO as I believe the NRL want a trade window, but they won't accept it.
I'm all for looking after the players but their expectations are out of this world on a lot of things.
NRL just need to make it happen and put them in their place

We need an AFL type draft system aswell. Another thing the rlpa don't support.

 

[liltiger]

With all this talk about TDS
Has his management at any time asked for a release from his contract ?
Or is this just a reaction from the media and this forum because Galvin has been released.

Tartak his manager has said in the media if Api re-signs tds will need to leave to find a starting role. But I think if Api signs as a type of care taker and halves reserve and eases tds into the role of 80 min 9 over 2 years, I don't see wht tds would leave. 🤷

 

[Tom Shines]

Tartak his manager has said in the media if Api re-signs tds will need to leave to find a starting role. But I think if Api signs as a type of care taker and halves reserve and eases tds into the role of 80 min 9 over 2 years, I don't see wht tds would leave. 🤷

There are direct quotes in this article from Richo a month ago that TDS wants to be a starter and will likely leave if they re-sign Api,,,

The next Tigers young gun on the move as veteran’s extension talks begin: Transfer Whispers

The next Tigers young gun on the move as veteran’s extension talks begin: Transfer Whispers

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[Jolls]

I love Api, but do we really want to sacrifice potentially having TDS for 10 years to get an extra year or two out of Api?

There are a few things at play here. Firstly, TDS isn't 80 mins of FG ready yet, so we sacrifice performance over the short term so we can have a solution down the track that will see us good for 8 years or so.

I have no doubts about there being a plan for him to replace Api in due course and I expect that has been laid out for Tallyn. He is still learning his craft and will most likely have a long career ahead of him. He has the opportunity to develop under a player, that in many circles, ic considered to be an elite hooker, but if he wants the chocolates now instead of being developed correctly it demonstrates an issue.

Benji and Richo simply need to layout the plan to both Api and Tallyn in an open and forthright manner. If he walks after that - so be it. We identify the talent we need to develop to replace Api and move on.

 

[liltiger]

So we have agreed to release Galvin without receiving a player in return.
No backbone and it seems there was some truth to the bullying claims.

That's why there's no backbone, it's infinitely better for us to get him to drop everything and never speak about it than it is for us to recieve a player and the club spend a few years and millions in litigation fighting it and years in the media getting beat up over it. Richo did what was in the best interests of the Wests Tigers here. He did the right thing.

 

[finnzo]

There are direct quotes in this article from Richo a month ago that TDS wants to be a starter and will likely leave if they re-sign Api,,,

The next Tigers young gun on the move as veteran’s extension talks begin: Transfer Whispers

The next Tigers young gun on the move as veteran’s extension talks begin: Transfer Whispers

www.foxsports.com.au

Just imagine TDS going up to Benji saying if our club captain stays I’m leaving. What has this world come to these kids want it all

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Just imagine TDS going up to Benji saying if our club captain stays I’m leaving. What has this world come to these kids want it all

I don’t think it would be that brazen. I think it’s a little unfair that he’s being tarred with the same brush as Galvin. The circumstances are completely different. If he sees his path here blocked, and another club is offering him a starting role, why wouldn’t he take it?

 

[Tom Shines]

Just imagine TDS going up to Benji saying if our club captain stays I’m leaving. What has this world come to these kids want it all

It’s a professional game and players will do what maximises the dollars… the club just cut a guy in the offseason for being late to training because he was required to attend an interview at a police station..

 

[Wiz]

It’s a professional game and players will do what maximises the dollars… the club just cut a guy in the offseason for being late to training because he was required to attend an interview at a police station..

Except for Galvin who just left $300k per season on the table…

 

[Tom Shines]

Except for Galvin who just left $300k per season on the table…

Did he really? I wouldn’t be surprised if a legal third party deal has made up most of that

 

[bptiger 0]

Except for Galvin who just left $300k per season on the table…

Did he really , I think the dogs , now have brown paper bags

 

[TSP]

We might get 1 or 2 seasons out of Api but 3-5 plus from Tallyn.

Hes risen up through the junior ranks and has been able to respond to Benji in the broad ( as galvin did).

Hes a good mate of Galvo but thaf hasnt dettered him from staying loyal.

Ive been an admirer of Apis for a long time, a genuis footballer, a leader and a bit of a hero for leaving the panthers to help start our resurgence.

My only proviso of wanting to keep TDS over Api in a fight to the death is that the deal is fair. He needs a proper drink.

Where i might pull up short is where he wants a guarantee of a starting possie.

It was said by the wise here that no player is entitled to that privilige. I dont care who or how good they are.

 

[finnzo]

I don’t think it would be that brazen. I think it’s a little unfair that he’s being tarred with the same brush as Galvin. The circumstances are completely different. If he sees his path here blocked, and another club is offering him a starting role, why wouldn’t he take it?

Surly TDS can see that api isn’t going to play till he is 40 he’s already getting on. And as soon as api isn’t up to it’s it’s TDSes position these kids just need to be patient its for there own benefit. I’m huge fan of TDS I’d be devastated to see him go to another club.

 

[Tom Shines]

We might get 1 or 2 seasons out of Api but 3-5 plus from Tallyn.

Hes risen up through the junior ranks and has been able to respond to Benji in the broad ( as galvin did).

Hes a good mate of Galvo but thaf hasnt dettered him from staying loyal.

Ive been an admirer of Apis for a long time, a genuis footballer, a leader and a bit of a hero for leaving the panthers to help start our resurgence.

My only proviso of wanting to keep TDS over Api in a fight to the death is that the deal is fair. He needs a proper drink.

Where i might pull up short is where he wants a guarantee of a starting possie.

It was said by the wise here that no player is entitled to that privilige. I dont care who or how good they are.

Richo gets paid a lot of money to make difficult calls like this … and unlike anyone here, he has the full picture around all the factors including how well the next guy Haywood is looking and how many years he might be away ( I would suggest still a few as he is only 18) …

I hope Richo makes the final call as Benji looks a little bit too close to Api…