Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[innsaneink]

Line speed starts at training...or even the offseason (fitness)...but its a waste of time.if we cant compete in the ruck, wrestle and slow the opposition down, put them on the deck and turn them around.
Guys like Stone tho would help big time

 

[Fish88]

"he hasn't been in the Warriors first grade side for awhile" doesn't that tell you something.

Warriors are stacked with forwards and are backing youth too.

 

[Tiger-ferret]

"he hasn't been in the Warriors first grade side for awhile" doesn't that tell you something.

Perfect signing for the Tigers!

 

[Milky]

No "super good" Talent.

Tristan Hope
Heath Mason

Both come to mind. I like Hope, but both are fringe graders not guns.

I agree but what I’m trying to say is he has had time + resources to form the team he wants.

When Cleary was here, he signed Matulino, Mcqueen, Packer and Reynolds. They weren’t good but whilst he was coach they performed. We beat Roosters and Storm in GP back to back. We could only dream of that now.

It seems Benji is just signing whoever he can with no plan

 

[hank37w]

people on here don’t like logic
they want Klemmer on $800k

I think we definitely would have explained to him coming into this season that we would not play him the requisite number of games to activate that clause in his contract.

I think the club did the right thing by Klemmer and themselves by doing that, giving him the opportunity to go elsewhere on a multi year contract rather than risk having nothing or a very low contract somewhere else after the completion of this season.

 

[Vicious]

Line speed starts at training...or even the offseason (fitness)...but its a waste of time.if we cant compete in the ruck, wrestle and slow the opposition down, put them on the deck and turn them around.
Guys like Stone tho would help big time

That’s the thing, 2 of our forwards that get heavily scrutinised in Twal and Seyfarth are 2 of our better players in regards to competing in the ruck, wrestle, slowing down the play the ball and getting back to marker.
We all know the are very underwhelming from an attacking point of view which is the problem, but we don’t appear to have many forwards, possibly only May who excels in attack and defence, but even he has been below par in his ball carries recently which I think most of us agree is largely due to him playing too many minutes each game.

 

[hank37w]

We never have any line speed when defending and it pisses me off. All the good teams sprint off the line, WTs barely move off the line.

It has to be fitness, it can't be anything else, how can you not know that it is just something that you have to do.

 

[Tiger Stripes]

Can they bring there coach down as well.

Interesting ticks of approval from this comment!
Demps, BWG and Vicious.
Honeymoon over Mr. Benji? Losing the faithful?
Time to look into the mirror, get better help?
I'm sure Richo would have some good advice. Just have to take it onboard.

 

[hank37w]

The form of Pole, Api and To'a has fallen off a cliff

Two of those have resigned recently, I suppose we will probably resign To'a as well despite him constantly playing with only one arm and one leg.

I expect we will mostly fill our top 30 with current players and lower grade players from within, anything that falls out of a tree will be permanently disabled from the fall.

 

[tigahhh]

I think we definitely would have explained to him coming into this season that we would not play him the requisite number of games to activate that clause in his contract.

I think the club did the right thing by Klemmer and themselves by doing that, giving him the opportunity to go elsewhere on a multi year contract rather than risk having nothing or a very low contract somewhere else after the completion of this season.

I agree , he hasn’t been missed watching his defence in that dragons game
Also is a IM client so bye

 

[tigahhh]

the Wahs cup side has gems in there
get the back rowers, forwards & tuapiki for bula insurance bc he’s probably out of here and sell them first grade
even their 13 & 9 is class

 

[gregjm87]

That’s the thing, 2 of our forwards that get heavily scrutinised in Twal and Seyfarth are 2 of our better players in regards to competing in the ruck, wrestle, slowing down the play the ball and getting back to marker.

Twal does not fit this description in my opinion.

 

[gregjm87]

It has to be fitness, it can't be anything else, how can you not know that it is just something that you have to do.

Disagree that it has to be (certainly could be). I think defensive coaching and ability are a big factor. Not that they aren't told to get off the line but they lose the collision and wrestle, meaning slow to get back to the line, meaning slow to get off it.

 

[Vicious]

Twal does not fit this description in my opinion.

Fair enough and I believe you are a very good analyst so I’ll take your word for it.
So if we were to retain only one of Twal, Seyfarth or Bird, would you keep Seyfarth ahead of the other 2 ?
I only ask as I think it’s nearing the stage where we might need to make this type of decision and I think I would prioritise Seyfarth ahead of the other 2.
I don’t think we would have much trouble offloading Twal at his full 400k value if that’s a decision we were looking to make.

 

[Tom Shines]

Fair enough and I believe you are a very good analyst so I’ll take your word for it.
So if we were to retain only one of Twal, Seyfarth or Bird, would you keep Seyfarth ahead of the other 2 ?
I only ask as I think it’s nearing the stage where we might need to make this type of decision and I think I would prioritise Seyfarth ahead of the other 2.
I don’t think we would have much trouble offloading Twal at his full 400k value if that’s a decision we were looking to make.

Isn’t the idea to improve the squad ? You can’t keep doing what we are doing now , where there is no depth in the team and we have to bring players that aren’t NRL standard every time there is an injury or make guys like Toa play through it…

We have close to zero depth outside the Top 17 … we had only two players out on Saturday and couldn’t really replace them …

Why not just keep the three you mention as depth?

 

[balmain boy]

Keep in mind Terrell May wasn’t any better than Twal last night.
Not entirely his fault, it’s been obvious since round 4 he’s playing too many minutes and it’s effecting his impact, but his half paced ball csrries were no more effective than Twal or Seyfarth last night,

Cmon, even at half pace he still blew those two away.

Once the likes of Twal and Seyfarth are 17-21 on the roster, and Sukkar is 30-34, then we might actually have a decent pack.

 

[Tom Shines]

Cmon, even at half pace he still blew those two away.

Once the likes of Twal and Seyfarth are 17-21 on the roster, and Sukkar is 30-34, then we might actually have a decent pack.

Looks like he wants to now move them on so they can keep picking Sukkar and Charlie Murray instead

 

[liltiger]

Cooper Cronk in and one of our dud assistants out , it’s that simple , we have not been able to attack properly for years not games years

Imo, I'm telling Hodgo thanks but time to leave, bring Cronk in to work on our attack, then bringing in Matty Johns. The guy is a clown but has on of the best football I.q running around. If I can't get him in to help the halves I'm calling his brother in. Joey has done some really good work with developing halves and their games.

 

[Vicious]

Isn’t the idea to improve the squad ? You can’t keep doing what we are doing now , where there is no depth in the team and we have to bring players that aren’t NRL standard every time there is an injury or make guys like Toa play through it…

We have close to zero depth outside the Top 17 … we had only two players out on Saturday and couldn’t really replace them …

Why not just keep the three you mention as depth?

Well if that’s possible to do and also bring in some genuine NRL talent then yes, that would be ideal.

 

[balmain boy]

Agreed, he kicked so long the chasers gave up 20m from where the ball landed so they took up defensive positions. Benji's instructions, "play it in their half"?
Why didn't Benji get the message to Luai, "not so deep" its not working.
The original game plan needed adjustments as our troops weren't up to it. But no plan B?

The distance was not the problem, it was actually good for a change. You simply can't have kicks being caught on the full at the 20-30m line. That's absolute suicide.
The problem was the kicks aren't high enough for our chasers to get through. Why do our kickers have the lowest kicking game in the comp? Get pat Richards to show them how to put some height into it. Our kickoffs and general field kicks are atrocious, worst in the comp by a long long way.