Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

We need big mobile forwards , for way too long we think Twal , Seyfarth & Bird type players fit the bill , look at Parra now and their pack with no RCG , Matterson , Lane ,Cartwright are going well , time to move on some of our weakling pack
the problem is we don’t have anyone to replace them in cup
 
What's everyone reckon. Sign Dane Gagai & Jayden Campbell & re-sign Doueihi.

That would be 28 out of 30. Sullivan goes then back to 27.

Mapapalangi gets the last development spot.

Need 3 middles to upgrade on Seyfarth & a genuine Lock.

Bula, Turuva, Gagai*, TayMay, Makasini

Luai, Campbell*

TeMay, Api, Seyfarth, KPP, SaFainu, LaFainu

Doueihi*, Pole, Twal, SiFainu

NSW Cup

Mason, L Lualili, Toa, Bird, Skelton

Mapapalangi*, Madden

Hunt, Hope, K Lualili, Sukkar, Saukuru, Murray

Haywood, Goodinet, Broderlow, Taupua-Moors

Not including any of the current NSW Cup squad, there are 2 or 3 definitely worth keeping.
 

How a decent run club administer their contracts and development.

He'd be top 30 as an 18 year old, and given the keys to the club straight out of SG Ball if he was at Wests Tigers.
This is the sub system we need to develop as our pathways programme. We need another sub system for coaching. When those are in place the foundations are set and you can build. At the moment we are trying to build on clay.
 
We need big mobile forwards , for way too long we think Twal , Seyfarth & Bird type players fit the bill , look at Parra now and their pack with no RCG , Matterson , Lane ,Cartwright are going well , time to move on some of our weakling pack
Agree with the first part, not with the second.

Parra's pack is average. Super average. They are playing closer to their ability though, some of ours; not so much.

I think it's safe to say that Ryles is getting more out of the forwards he has than Benji is.
 

How a decent run club administer their contracts and development.

He'd be top 30 as an 18 year old, and given the keys to the club straight out of SG Ball if he was at Wests Tigers.
Lucky Warren McDonnell and Sheens are long gone around here then.

They did more damage to our cap and squad than they get credit for.
 
he’s 21. comparing him to SOO back rowers isn’t even fair
He's no comparing his play style, he is comparing his physical attributes. His speed and agility isn't going to suddenly improve with experience. He may learn to better use what he is equipped with but the assets will remain the same. I think he can do a job on an edge but I also believe he is better suited to the middle.
For all the praise of how well he performed last year (and he did perform well for such a young forward, in his first full year, in a terribly performed team) he was still average at best. He led the comp for try causes and averaged less than 100m a game. He has gone backwards this year (no doubt due to opposition having done more study on him) despite supposedly having an elite half inside him.
If kept in the backrow I've no doubt he will further develop into a quality player. I just think he has far more upside as a middle. He'd hardly be the first front rower who got his start on an edge, Papallii, Tapine, JFH, Kaloamatangi, Taumalolo...the list goes on.
 
He's been busted every year of his career. He's just not up for it.
Busted To'a is still better than 35 year old Dane Gagai.

Unless we have a better option at right centre, we should be keeping him.

It's popular to bag him at the moment, he leads our try assists and is second to Turuva in tries (most of Turuva's tries assisted by To'a).

We are a club who struggles to attract good players and when we do get 1 or 2, usually we break even because we lose a couple.

I'd be keeping Api, Luai, May x 2, Fainu x 3, To'a, Turuva, Makasini, Bula from this lot. The rest can go.
 
Lucky Warren McDonnell and Sheens are long gone around here then.

They did more damage to our cap and squad than they get credit for.
I expect that McDonnell and Sheens were playing a game of sign as many as you can as cheap as you can and hope a couple come good. I expect this was because there was nothing to aspire to and this was a method to try to stabilse the sinking ship. Despite the outcome of Sheens' second coming, I have no doubt that he had good intentions and thought that the approach was the right one.

It would be brilliant if we could be in a simialr position as the Warriors are with Clearly 2.0. Unfortunately, we are missing a key ingredient. I think Benji and Richo are trying to build it - but until we have something to aspire to it is very hard to have players lined up willing to bide their time in Ressies to develop. Without the desire to play for "this club" they won't wait. TDS apparently loved the club - but him not willing to wait and continue his development is an example of the problem (it may also be an indictment of the current generation too).

Sustained success is what we need. To be considered a top 4 club is a great strategic goal but cycling through permiership winning windows while remaining in the top 8 is what is required.
 
He's no comparing his play style, he is comparing his physical attributes. His speed and agility isn't going to suddenly improve with experience. He may learn to better use what he is equipped with but the assets will remain the same. I think he can do a job on an edge but I also believe he is better suited to the middle.
For all the praise of how well he performed last year (and he did perform well for such a young forward, in his first full year, in a terribly performed team) he was still average at best. He led the comp for try causes and averaged less than 100m a game. He has gone backwards this year (no doubt due to opposition having done more study on him) despite supposedly having an elite half inside him.
If kept in the backrow I've no doubt he will further develop into a quality player. I just think he has far more upside as a middle. He'd hardly be the first front rower who got his start on an edge, Papallii, Tapine, JFH, Kaloamatangi, Taumalolo...the list goes on.
my point is we have a young squad and most of the comparisons are short sighted. hudson young is in career best form. at 21 he was eye gouging blokes.
 
sure but he also throws at least 4 hospital balls to his outside men
Sometimes you need to throw those balls just to create a further element of doubt in the opposition. If anything Galvin understands that variety in attack is the key to breaking down the opposition!
 
Galvin's a stud.
He still makes mistakes, throws some poor passes, puts in some dud kicks, but the things he does well makes any team he plays in better.
Every time he touches the ball the opposition look unsure.
He's gone, who cares.
 
Galvin's work rate and involvement can't be underestimated. He was breaking fitness records at the club at 19.

He's constantly around the ball and involved in everything. While he sometimes overplays his hand, he has pretty good instincts and a strong footy iq for a kid.

All his flaws are/were very correctable and he'll be a rep level player in a few years sadly. Whatever, he's gone now.
 
We need a genuine organising halfback or hooker. For a brief period we had Hastings until our staff thought it was a good idea to move him to lock and then boot him from the club altogether for Bateman.

Sezer kind of got us around the park ok early on and then mailed it in when he knew he wasn't being re-signed.

Before that? Genuinely think the last proper organising half we had might have been Mat Head? Even in 2010/2011 we were winning off the back of individually brilliant players rather than structure.

Until we address this issue, we're gonna go nowhere. We don't build to anything, half our sets are just one out runs from our backs and in attacking zones we have no clue what we're doing. We're lucky to even get a kick away half the time.
 
I genuinely cannot fathom the pitchforks for Starford To'a.

he is injured. he is therefore going to make mistakes. blame the coach for playing him busted, and the admin of past and present for our horrendous depth in the outside backs.

at his best he is up there with the best centres in the competition. his stats from the beginning of the season indicate as such.

fingers crossed he gets the rest he so desperately needs this week.
 
To'a is immensely talented but at this point you have to genuinely question whether his body can hold up at this level.

I've been one of his staunchest defenders and he's easily our most dangerous attacking player, but what good is a guy who's healthy for a handful of games and then busted for the rest?
 

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