Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

mtd#2 said:
He was playing in the middle in junior state of origin .. think it was U/19s?

So maybe we have weakened him by playing him on an edge and that's why he isn't as effective this year?
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He won our player of the year last year - playing on the edge…

We know what he is capable of at the position
 
jirskyr said:
Yeah cap is important for the people at the club who know exactly what everyone is getting paid.

But for the punters it's all speculative. Madden may be on $400K, $250K, $600K, $499K plus a free donkey... you can't do any calculations with guesses.
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I heard we traded away our washing machine for him
 
jirskyr said:
Yeah cap is important for the people at the club who know exactly what everyone is getting paid.

But for the punters it's all speculative. Madden may be on $400K, $250K, $600K, $499K plus a free donkey... you can't do any calculations with guesses.
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Also, just a minor thing, but they aren’t always on round numbers either. Usually it’s 467 or 533 etc.
 
Tom Shines said:
He won our player of the year last year - playing on the edge…

We know what he is capable of at the position
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How stiff was the competition in the team that ran last? He's no Hudson Young. He wouldn't even get a run off the bench at Canberra..

Whilst we do know what he is capable of in the backrow.. Do we know what he is capable in the middle? Could he be better?
 
The concern with Samuela Fainu if he is to remain as an edge back rower, does he have enough speed and footwork to be effective long term and be a player who can worry the best defensive teams when playing on an edge ?
He’s not slow, but I’m not sure he’s as quick as all the edge back rowers who play SOO for an example and they are the benchmark.
I liken him to Shawn Blore and to be honest I think he is a better edge back rower than Shawn Blore, so if you look at it from that angle he will get the job done if we have the right players around him.
As I’ve now stated many times I think the solution is to have another good quality edge back rower with speed and agility to put pressure on both Sanuela and KPP.
I keep mentioning Simi Sasagi, I’ve heard a few others mention Billy Burns and Connelly Lemuelu could be another option.
These types of players are very handy to add a bit of speed and strike as a number 15 if they are not starting and quick enough to also play in the centres if injuries happen throughout a game.
 
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Vicious said:
The concern with Samuela Fainu if he is to remain as an edge back rower, does he have enough speed and footwork to be effective long term and be a player who can worry the best defensive teams when playing on an edge ?
He’s not slow, but I’m not sure he’s as quick as all the edge back rowers who play SOO for an example and they are the benchmark.
I liken him to Shawn Blore and to be honest I think he is a better edge back rower than Shawn Blore, so if you look at it from that angle he will get the job done if we have the right players around him.
As I’ve now stated many times I think the solution is to have another good quality edge back rower with speed and agility to put pressure on both Sanuela and KPP.
I keep mentioning Simi Sasagi, I’ve heard a few others mention Billy Burns and Connelly Lemuelu could be another option.
These types of players are very handy to add a bit of speed and strike as a number 15 if they are not starting and quick enough to also play in the centres if injuries happen throughout a game.
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he’s 21. comparing him to SOO back rowers isn’t even fair
 
Tiger Stripes said:
I don't think Sukkar is quick/mobile enough, so will never improve very much as a 2RF. Hard to get faster?
Maybe if he beefs-up could replace Twal as a prop?
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100% Sukkar should be moved to the middle. He is strong in contact, is very consistent, decent at the wrestle, is a far stronger carry than people give him credit for, and is still very young.

I think he can go the Sam McIntyre mould, develop into a strong, consistent, reliable middle by his mid 20s and offer value in the squad, much like Sam has at the Cowboys.

But he'll need to do 2/3 seasons of it in Cup first. He's also bigger than his stats suggest, so I'd say at some point this year he's grown, which is not surprising considering he turned 21 in May.
 
mtd#2 said:
How stiff was the competition in the team that ran last? He's no Hudson Young. He wouldn't even get a run off the bench at Canberra..

Whilst we do know what he is capable of in the backrow.. Do we know what he is capable in the middle? Could he be better?
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He is 21 and has only played about 30 games and no where near his ceiling yet ,.,

He is the best edge at the club already and will only improve

Hudson Young is 27
 
Kelce68 said:
100% Sukkar should be moved to the middle. He is strong in contact, is very consistent, decent at the wrestle, is a far stronger carry than people give him credit for, and is still very young.

I think he can go the Sam McIntyre mould, develop into a strong, consistent, reliable middle by his mid 20s and offer value in the squad, much like Sam has at the Cowboys.

But he'll need to do 2/3 seasons of it in Cup first. He's also bigger than his stats suggest, so I'd say at some point this year he's grown, which is not surprising considering he turned 21 in May.
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We need big mobile forwards , for way too long we think Twal , Seyfarth & Bird type players fit the bill , look at Parra now and their pack with no RCG , Matterson , Lane ,Cartwright are going well , time to move on some of our weakling pack
 
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