Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Bus 2 Terrigal said:
You support Wests Tigers yet don’t like anything Wests Tigers have done for a decade and a half.

Sounds a bit like - I love my wife, I just hate everything she says and does 🤣
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Your confused. I support Wests Tigers. I detest Wests Campbelltown because they're gutless cowards who sold up shop as soon as they could. Balmain because they were a huge part of the problem and HBG the current owners who imo are deadbeats. Who are only where they are because of the archaic system they have where the boys club holds the power. If their members could vote them in or out I would at least have some respect for them and think well this is what their members want.
Thank the Lord we have an independant board finally. Now all we need is either massive change at HBG so competent people can take over. Or privatisation to the right owner so finally the cancer that's been ruining us for 25 years can go. That cancer being the three leagues clubs who ran 2 football clubs that well they had to merge. Then got togeather to run the merged entity like it was a game of thrones, all the while the fans are the ones suffering.
Now tell me in the decade and a half of absolute trash we've been dished up as fans. What exactly have you celebrated?
 
tigerballs said:
Craig Bellamy didn't seem to have the same opinion.
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And so did Sheens. That's why he recruited him from Fijian obscurity. The raw talent was obvious. The potential wasn't missed.

In the context of my previous posts, the point was in our system, we had him for 4 years and weren't able to get him up to an acceptable level of defence and sort his issues under the high ball.

Melbourne have been taking raw talent for years and turning them into brilliant first graders. What works for Melbourne wasn't going to work for us because we didn't have the structures in place. 4 years is a long time to work on a player and we didn't produce a result. They did it in a season.

I wish we could do what Melbourne does with players, but we have a history of not being able to do that.
 
weststigers said:
And so did Sheens. That's why he recruited him from Fijian obscurity. The raw talent was obvious. The potential wasn't missed.

In the context of my previous posts, the point was in our system, we had him for 4 years and weren't able to get him up to an acceptable level of defence and sort his issues under the high ball.

Melbourne have been taking raw talent for years and turning them into brilliant first graders. What works for Melbourne wasn't going to work for us because we didn't have the structures in place. 4 years is a long time to work on a player and we didn't produce a result. They did it in a season.

I wish we could do what Melbourne does with players, but we have a history of not being able to do that.
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That’s why we need to recruit trainers and coaches from these professional systems rather than mates of the HC.
 
liltiger said:
Your confused. I support Wests Tigers. I detest Wests Campbelltown because they're gutless cowards who sold up shop as soon as they could. Balmain because they were a huge part of the problem and HBG the current owners who imo are deadbeats. Who are only where they are because of the archaic system they have where the boys club holds the power. If their members could vote them in or out I would at least have some respect for them and think well this is what their members want.
Thank the Lord we have an independant board finally. Now all we need is either massive change at HBG so competent people can take over. Or privatisation to the right owner so finally the cancer that's been ruining us for 25 years can go. That cancer being the three leagues clubs who ran 2 football clubs that well they had to merge. Then got togeather to run the merged entity like it was a game of thrones, all the while the fans are the ones suffering.
Now tell me in the decade and a half of absolute trash we've been dished up as fans. What exactly have you celebrated?
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Guys keep it in the other thread. Fair is fair to everyone else. It went on too far here yesterday.

@Bus 2 Terrigal @liltiger
 
weststigers said:
And so did Sheens. That's why he recruited him from Fijian obscurity. The raw talent was obvious. The potential wasn't missed.

In the context of my previous posts, the point was in our system, we had him for 4 years and weren't able to get him up to an acceptable level of defence and sort his issues under the high ball.

Melbourne have been taking raw talent for years and turning them into brilliant first graders. What works for Melbourne wasn't going to work for us because we didn't have the structures in place. 4 years is a long time to work on a player and we didn't produce a result. They did it in a season.

I wish we could do what Melbourne does with players, but we have a history of not being able to do that.
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Yep, that was my point. It was Potter who punted him and I thought he would have known better.

But we're a development club.....
 
Tucker said:
That’s why we need to recruit trainers and coaches from these professional systems rather than mates of the HC.
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It could be as simple as that or more system and structural, but whatever the cause is, something needs to be done in that area.

I think we've had some good coaches in the system in the past, but our systems and structures from the bottom up aren't aligned, so it's just setting them up to fail.

My opinion only, but that needs to be looked at and overhauled from the ground up which would include coaches/trainers etc.
 
tigerballs said:
Yep, that was my point. It was Potter who punted him and I thought he would have known better.

But we're a development club.....
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Yeah, but my point was had webkept him, he would have remained at that level. Without Melbourne, he would have been another guy with great potential that never made it.
 
liltiger said:
Your confused. I support Wests Tigers. I detest Wests Campbelltown because they're gutless cowards who sold up shop as soon as they could. Balmain because they were a huge part of the problem and HBG the current owners who imo are deadbeats. Who are only where they are because of the archaic system they have where the boys club holds the power. If their members could vote them in or out I would at least have some respect for them and think well this is what their members want.
Thank the Lord we have an independant board finally. Now all we need is either massive change at HBG so competent people can take over. Or privatisation to the right owner so finally the cancer that's been ruining us for 25 years can go. That cancer being the three leagues clubs who ran 2 football clubs that well they had to merge. Then got togeather to run the merged entity like it was a game of thrones, all the while the fans are the ones suffering.
Now tell me in the decade and a half of absolute trash we've been dished up as fans. What exactly have you celebrated?
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I think you need to chill a little, try yoga or something, but pushing all your Leagues Club hatred aside (I think you could have thrown Ryde Eastwood in there for a cameo mention too 🤔) ... I’ll get to your question.

I’ve celebrated the wins and appreciated the gutsy efforts. I enjoy seeing the juniors advance to be NRL players - even if it’s not with us. I also think the never ending melodrama of the Wests-Ts is compelling and I often get a hearty chuckle out of the absolutely ridiculous stuff. Let’s face it, this club is entertainment central and I for one, wouldn’t miss a single day of it 🤣🤣🤣
 
426Tlgerland said:
Because they are smarter and tougher operators , we have paid big money for years to have players play else where , it hasn’t changed
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Yep...

I mean honestly some of our signings have been above what I would expect. Papalii, Turuva, Luai, May...

But others were just guesses.
Latu Fainu only worked because of Samuela.
Sullivan was a badish signing, made worse by us signing the real halves later... 500k paper weight.
(naturally the Reynolds/Mbye *face Palm* etc signings).

What really gets me is we see players drop. Hunt is the clear example. Sullivan is another who has shown he can play at souths, but couldn't really play here (TLDR we can't coach halves). We need to address this.
 
king_sirro said:
I dont think thats a game to judge. Dragons were always a massive chance to win that. I tipped them. Raiders have been flat for a while and just getting the job done, while NRL teams simply dont keep losing. They always eventually win. That wasn't Flanagan and Klemmer leading a team to beat Canberra, that was Canberra having the loss that has been coming and the football gods doing what they always do
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I think it’s important because the raiders are genuine contenders. We haven’t beaten one of those all year.
 
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