After reading the embarrassing attempts at logic by those puppets of HBG on this forum, may I suggest that the erstwhile controllers of this excellent vehicle for mostly sensible conversation, take a less generous tolerance to their bile. I for one, would like to see them banned for life and indeed in other times people like this where dealt with in the appropriate manner. I know that public floggings and the occasional guillotining is frowned upon these days (more the pity) but I think there is a very strong case for this in such dire times. For your consideration.